What I like about these people who complaint about these jobs and not being treated fairly, most have no interest in making themselves better and they want the same things as those who worked hard to get where they are. When they talk about being fired, they never talk about all the things they done before the last thing they did before getting fired. I work at a high tech company and we outsource all these services as well and it is interesting that the Same people doing these jobs have been here for years I see them every day. Why they do a good job and no company is going to fire people who work hard and do good work.
While I am thoroughly opposed to Jackson and these types of protest strategies, I would imagine that a security job at Apple is extremely serious, given all that is at stake and competitor thievery all around (remember, for example, the Eddie Cue skit at the last keynote?).
Why isn't Apple, regardless of thugs like Jackson, hiring the best and the brightest -- say, ex-Navy SEAL-types -- with the highest possible, industry-leading pay to look after security!?
Apple does hire for internal security positions where that type of experience might be a plus.
People need to stop glorifying the military. The people that glorify the military are probably people who would never sign up and never did serve their country.
No glorification intended on my part, just a valid comparison. I served for 6 years in the military and have several family members who have also served, some for over 20 years. I fully understand how tough it is for junior military families to make ends meet when they are stationed in a high cost of living area like SF Bay, San Diego, DC, and Seattle. If living gloriously includes needing to obtain food stamps to feed their families then I guess you could say they are living the high life. It's only after factoring things like housing allowances that junior personnel begin to approach income equity with the security guards in question. You also have to factor in the challenges that spouses of military members face when trying to sustain a career when they are being reassigned every few years. With the tax burdens and cost of living challenges faced by most American families today, having two income earners is a necessity, especially in areas like California. Today's all volunteer force offers little more job security than any other career. Service members have to perform or they will get tossed, just like they would in any other job. The military has also been downsizing and forcing involuntary separations. Yes, you can get laid off from the military.
I do understand where you're coming from about people who love to wave the flag and espouse patriotism but would never consider serving themselves, much less, allowing their children to serve. This applies to almost all of today's conservative radio celebrities. Nothing would solve this problem better than having compulsory national service for all US citizens, be it in a military service or social service capacity. I'm 100% behind such a model rather than the free ride by birthright that all Americans are gifted with today.
Why? The already have a headquarter in Ireland that manages their foreign revenue. Moving their main HQ there would only cost US jobs. Including those contracted security jobs. Apple can easily afford to pay the cost of operating a HQ in the US with their US revenue. Plus the cost of operating their HQ in the US is a tax write off on their US revenue.
I know you're probably thinking that if Apple moved their US HQ to Ireland, they could avoid paying any US taxes all together. But you would be wrong. (And it wouldn't the first time, or second, or third .... but who's counting). All revenues made in the US by any company are subject to US taxes, regardless of the location of its HQ. Having a HQ in a foreign country can only be used to legally avoid paying any US taxes on any foriegn revenue (If it's a US company.). As long as those revenue remain in foreign territory and not brought into the US. Otherwise it will be subject to tax in the US. (If brought into the US). That's the way the US tax laws are written. But all foreign taxes must still be paided to the countries where the revenues were generated. As long as Apple already have a foreign HQ in Ireland, there's really no tax advantage to moving their main HQ there.
You think companies like Samsung don't have to pay any US taxes because they are a foreign company with a foreign HQ? Think again. (Or maybe for the first time.) Why do you think foreign companies like Samsung, Toyota, Honda, Nestle, Sony, Airbus, etc. open plants in the US? Because labor is cheap? Because they don't have to pay a lot for security? It's because the cost of operating a US plant is a tax write off and reduces the tUS tax they have to pay on their US revenues. It's the same reason why anyone making a lot of money and paying a lot in income taxes buy a home. The legal tax write off makes it worth the while.
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Just shut up.
hey tallest s..t, why don't you stfu?
Or, better idea, keep your ludicrous nonsense to yourself.
Or, better idea, keep your ludicrous nonsense to yourself.
ok, no go back and watch your aapl go down
OPEC’s dead, dude. What does your delusion about Apple’s taxes have to do with the stock price?
Who are you and why are you here, agitator?
I thought that was R2D2's cousin X4LI8
I thought that was R2D2's cousin X4LI8
BB-8 says "hi"!
There's been claims of unfair treatment of tech contract workers for a long time, and not just at Apple.
http://www.alternet.org/labor/how-google-and-silicon-valley-screw-their-non-elite-workers
What I like about these people who complaint about these jobs and not being treated fairly, most have no interest in making themselves better and they want the same things as those who worked hard to get where they are. When they talk about being fired, they never talk about all the things they done before the last thing they did before getting fired. I work at a high tech company and we outsource all these services as well and it is interesting that the Same people doing these jobs have been here for years I see them every day. Why they do a good job and no company is going to fire people who work hard and do good work.
OPEC’s dead, dude. What does your delusion about Apple’s taxes have to do with the stock price?
I was just telling you to go away, this doesn't have anything to do with apple's taxes or with the fact that OPEC's dead.
Well, at least it makes sense now.
No glorification intended on my part, just a valid comparison. I served for 6 years in the military and have several family members who have also served, some for over 20 years. I fully understand how tough it is for junior military families to make ends meet when they are stationed in a high cost of living area like SF Bay, San Diego, DC, and Seattle. If living gloriously includes needing to obtain food stamps to feed their families then I guess you could say they are living the high life. It's only after factoring things like housing allowances that junior personnel begin to approach income equity with the security guards in question. You also have to factor in the challenges that spouses of military members face when trying to sustain a career when they are being reassigned every few years. With the tax burdens and cost of living challenges faced by most American families today, having two income earners is a necessity, especially in areas like California. Today's all volunteer force offers little more job security than any other career. Service members have to perform or they will get tossed, just like they would in any other job. The military has also been downsizing and forcing involuntary separations. Yes, you can get laid off from the military.
I do understand where you're coming from about people who love to wave the flag and espouse patriotism but would never consider serving themselves, much less, allowing their children to serve. This applies to almost all of today's conservative radio celebrities. Nothing would solve this problem better than having compulsory national service for all US citizens, be it in a military service or social service capacity. I'm 100% behind such a model rather than the free ride by birthright that all Americans are gifted with today.
Good post.
Everything is too expensive today.
then they should move their campuses to Ireland
Why? The already have a headquarter in Ireland that manages their foreign revenue. Moving their main HQ there would only cost US jobs. Including those contracted security jobs. Apple can easily afford to pay the cost of operating a HQ in the US with their US revenue. Plus the cost of operating their HQ in the US is a tax write off on their US revenue.
I know you're probably thinking that if Apple moved their US HQ to Ireland, they could avoid paying any US taxes all together. But you would be wrong. (And it wouldn't the first time, or second, or third .... but who's counting). All revenues made in the US by any company are subject to US taxes, regardless of the location of its HQ. Having a HQ in a foreign country can only be used to legally avoid paying any US taxes on any foriegn revenue (If it's a US company.). As long as those revenue remain in foreign territory and not brought into the US. Otherwise it will be subject to tax in the US. (If brought into the US). That's the way the US tax laws are written. But all foreign taxes must still be paided to the countries where the revenues were generated. As long as Apple already have a foreign HQ in Ireland, there's really no tax advantage to moving their main HQ there.
You think companies like Samsung don't have to pay any US taxes because they are a foreign company with a foreign HQ? Think again. (Or maybe for the first time.) Why do you think foreign companies like Samsung, Toyota, Honda, Nestle, Sony, Airbus, etc. open plants in the US? Because labor is cheap? Because they don't have to pay a lot for security? It's because the cost of operating a US plant is a tax write off and reduces the tUS tax they have to pay on their US revenues. It's the same reason why anyone making a lot of money and paying a lot in income taxes buy a home. The legal tax write off makes it worth the while.
"S? se puede"
Actually, it's Sí se puede.