Finally the iWatch of 2013 is coming in 2015 sometime after others have been making smart watches for a while now (some 2nd and 3rd generation). Like the iPhone 6 this is a bit late, but who knows for sure maybe better late than never... and so far AAPL is been sucking this quarter. will see how it does at the end of January
Your definition of "sucking" is being up 12% for the quarter? Good thing you don't work on Wall Street.
I don't get these comments about size severely limiting the popularity of smart watches. Just look at the size of most fashionable watches over the last several years. These things are huge and they do nothing but tell the time.
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The reason smart watches haven't taken off is because no one has produced a model with the right blend of good looks and indispensable utility. Smart watches are in the same evolutionary stage as smart phones were in 2006.
Interesting that you only chose images of watches for men. I suspect that women would be a bit more open to a new look and that might be favorable to Apple Watch sales.
10 million sales in the first year would be a humiliating failure for Tim Cook. That's good; he'll learn from it.
It's no surprise that interest in the watch has dropped a third since September; there's no compelling reason to buy one. Apple set such a high bar with the iPhone and iPad, that it will take another spark of inspiration to challenge them.
So far, that spark has not arrived.
Sigh. I will point out once again that a company that did nothing other than sell 10 million devices with an average selling price in one year would make the Fortune 500 list.
Maybe I should be the Anti-Frost: "If Apple sells at least 1 million Apple Phones the first year (and I am certain they will), it will be the most earth-shattering business success since the Model T. Frankly everything Apple has done before that will pale in comparison. We'll be trying to remember the name of the CEO who came before Tim Cook."
This week I have taken a short position in Apple, a maturing company whose profit prospects going forward are less attractive than in the past and whose valuation is inflated relative to other hardware companies.
Yes, except your link takes me to anarticle written by Doug Kass, not Gene Munster.
I think that general interest is low. I don't recall any of my Android fan "friends"* rubbishing the idea in social occasions and they generally get annoyed when Apple is on to a good thing.
Interesting that you only chose images of watches for men. I suspect that women would be a bit more open to a new look and that might be favorable to Apple Watch sales.
Two of those were women. Here are some more below.
My point being that big watches are very popular, so large size isn't an excuse for the low popularity of smart watches.
Two of those were women. Here are some more below.
My point being that big watches are very popular, so large size isn't an excuse for the low popularity of smart watches.
I stand corrected, but I would still make the argument that women would be more amenable to a style change. As for lack of smart watch sales, I'll await Apple's entry to get a better idea of the actual market.
Everyone needs a TV set and a phone, far less than everyone needs or even wants a watch. Frankly I'd be very surprised in one in ten iPhone owners want and buy an Apple Watch. A generous survey.
One in ten? Considering the hundreds of millions of likely iPhones in circulation, that would be huge.
I think that general interest is low. I don't recall any of my Android fan "friends"* rubbishing the idea in social occasions and they generally get annoyed when Apple is on to a good thing.
I think that it's not so much interest being low in Apple's product as interest being low in a smartwatch, the following discussions are a fraction of the size of the main smartphones:
The iPhone and iPad don't really duplicate much functionality of other devices. Everything a smartwatch does can be done better by a smartphone. A laptop isn't better for reading than a tablet and nothing beats a smartphone for portability. A smartphone can't do much for fitness but this is a specialized market with specialized products to suit.
Celebrities don't wear watches much, just bracelets:
Watches are now like earrings or cufflinks where you put them on when you feel like it. You could do the same with a smartwatch but jewellery watches are more attractive.
The Apple Watch will sell in the millions but it will be an accessory. It won't sell like the iPad or iPhone.
The Apple presentation in October has it's intended effect... to have people wait and see. In other words, they are not moving to any smart watches until Apple releases theirs. Why would you spend money on an Android Watch without knowing what Apple has in store? If you're an iPhone or iPad user, you wouldn't now because you want to see what Apple comes out with.
That presentation was primarily targeted as a stall tactic until they get everything working just right, instead of releasing beta devices and software like Google and company.
The Apple Watch will sell in the millions but it will be an accessory. It won't sell like the iPad or iPhone.
Who is seriously expecting ?Watch to sell in iPhone like figures? Certainly not Apple as they're initially going to be reporting the watch in a bucket called Other with ?TV and other accessories. I'm sure media will dismiss ?Watch for not being another iPhone like product. But that's just silly. Not every product needs to be like iPhone to be considered a success.
The Apple presentation in October has it's intended effect... to have people wait and see. In other words, they are not moving to any smart watches until Apple releases theirs. Why would you spend money on an Android Watch without knowing what Apple has in store? If you're an iPhone or iPad user, you wouldn't now because you want to see what Apple comes out with.
That presentation was primarily targeted as a stall tactic until they get everything working just right, instead of releasing beta devices and software like Google and company.
Although that may be an unintended consequence, I don't think Apple really had that in mind with their timing.
Obviously, it would have been preferable to catch the Christmas trade, so I don't think they had any choice. And very few people are buying any smartwatches, so I don't think Apple are worried about losing sales to others.
Who is seriously expecting ?Watch to sell in iPhone like figures? Certainly not Apple as they're initially going to be reporting the watch in a bucket called Other with ?TV and other accessories. I'm sure media will dismiss ?Watch for not being another iPhone like product. But that's just silly. Not every product needs to be like iPhone to be considered a success.
It'll sell to early adopters, obviously. We'll see things really take off once it hits the third generation.
The Apple presentation in October has it's intended effect... to have people wait and see. In other words, they are not moving to any smart watches until Apple releases theirs. Why would you spend money on an Android Watch without knowing what Apple has in store? If you're an iPhone or iPad user, you wouldn't now because you want to see what Apple comes out with.
That presentation was primarily targeted as a stall tactic until they get everything working just right, instead of releasing beta devices and software like Google and company.
Or maybe it was to prepare the developer base for it; smart watches aren't really selling large numbers at this point anyway.
And these are photos of Sony's latest smartwatch (which got a pretty bad review on cnet). Build quality looks awful. So even though it's waterproof I'd never want to wear it on my wrist because it looks so cheap.
The ?Watch may have better build quality, but just looking at that fat profile in the photo used in the article, doesn't make me want to even try it on. Many have said it doesn't wear that bulky, so I will take its appearance as being un-photogenic. But Apple really should avoid photographing it this way for marketing purposes.
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Finally the iWatch of 2013 is coming in 2015 sometime after others have been making smart watches for a while now (some 2nd and 3rd generation). Like the iPhone 6 this is a bit late, but who knows for sure maybe better late than never... and so far AAPL is been sucking this quarter. will see how it does at the end of January
Your definition of "sucking" is being up 12% for the quarter? Good thing you don't work on Wall Street.
I don't get these comments about size severely limiting the popularity of smart watches. Just look at the size of most fashionable watches over the last several years. These things are huge and they do nothing but tell the time.
The reason smart watches haven't taken off is because no one has produced a model with the right blend of good looks and indispensable utility. Smart watches are in the same evolutionary stage as smart phones were in 2006.
Interesting that you only chose images of watches for men. I suspect that women would be a bit more open to a new look and that might be favorable to Apple Watch sales.
Wait and see indeed.
10 million sales in the first year would be a humiliating failure for Tim Cook. That's good; he'll learn from it.
It's no surprise that interest in the watch has dropped a third since September; there's no compelling reason to buy one. Apple set such a high bar with the iPhone and iPad, that it will take another spark of inspiration to challenge them.
So far, that spark has not arrived.
Sigh. I will point out once again that a company that did nothing other than sell 10 million devices with an average selling price in one year would make the Fortune 500 list.
Maybe I should be the Anti-Frost: "If Apple sells at least 1 million Apple Phones the first year (and I am certain they will), it will be the most earth-shattering business success since the Model T. Frankly everything Apple has done before that will pale in comparison. We'll be trying to remember the name of the CEO who came before Tim Cook."
That guy is a total, clueless fool.
Here's what the genius wrote on sept 12, 2014:
This week I have taken a short position in Apple, a maturing company whose profit prospects going forward are less attractive than in the past and whose valuation is inflated relative to other hardware companies.
Yes, except your link takes me to anarticle written by Doug Kass, not Gene Munster.
I think that general interest is low. I don't recall any of my Android fan "friends"* rubbishing the idea in social occasions and they generally get annoyed when Apple is on to a good thing.
* keep em close.
But it's Munster, so that significantly diminishes its importance and credibility.
Interesting that you only chose images of watches for men. I suspect that women would be a bit more open to a new look and that might be favorable to Apple Watch sales.
Two of those were women. Here are some more below.
My point being that big watches are very popular, so large size isn't an excuse for the low popularity of smart watches.
Two of those were women. Here are some more below.
My point being that big watches are very popular, so large size isn't an excuse for the low popularity of smart watches.
I stand corrected, but I would still make the argument that women would be more amenable to a style change. As for lack of smart watch sales, I'll await Apple's entry to get a better idea of the actual market.
Everyone needs a TV set and a phone, far less than everyone needs or even wants a watch. Frankly I'd be very surprised in one in ten iPhone owners want and buy an Apple Watch. A generous survey.
One in ten? Considering the hundreds of millions of likely iPhones in circulation, that would be huge.
One in ten? Considering the hundreds of millions of likely iPhones in circulation, that would be huge.
The number of iPhones sold per year is what - 150M-200M? So the max market is 15M. Not that large
I stand corrected, but I would still make the argument that women would be more amenable to a style change.
Make it then!
Seriously, why do you think that?
I think that it's not so much interest being low in Apple's product as interest being low in a smartwatch, the following discussions are a fraction of the size of the main smartphones:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/wearable-android-tech/
The iPhone and iPad don't really duplicate much functionality of other devices. Everything a smartwatch does can be done better by a smartphone. A laptop isn't better for reading than a tablet and nothing beats a smartphone for portability. A smartphone can't do much for fitness but this is a specialized market with specialized products to suit.
Celebrities don't wear watches much, just bracelets:
Watches are now like earrings or cufflinks where you put them on when you feel like it. You could do the same with a smartwatch but jewellery watches are more attractive.
The Apple Watch will sell in the millions but it will be an accessory. It won't sell like the iPad or iPhone.
Make it then!
Seriously, why do you think that?
http://www.padgadget.com/2014/10/01/apple-watch-a-surprise-hit-at-paris-fashion-week/
The Apple presentation in October has it's intended effect... to have people wait and see. In other words, they are not moving to any smart watches until Apple releases theirs. Why would you spend money on an Android Watch without knowing what Apple has in store? If you're an iPhone or iPad user, you wouldn't now because you want to see what Apple comes out with.
That presentation was primarily targeted as a stall tactic until they get everything working just right, instead of releasing beta devices and software like Google and company.
Who is seriously expecting ?Watch to sell in iPhone like figures? Certainly not Apple as they're initially going to be reporting the watch in a bucket called Other with ?TV and other accessories. I'm sure media will dismiss ?Watch for not being another iPhone like product. But that's just silly. Not every product needs to be like iPhone to be considered a success.
Although that may be an unintended consequence, I don't think Apple really had that in mind with their timing.
Obviously, it would have been preferable to catch the Christmas trade, so I don't think they had any choice. And very few people are buying any smartwatches, so I don't think Apple are worried about losing sales to others.
It'll sell to early adopters, obviously. We'll see things really take off once it hits the third generation.
The Apple presentation in October has it's intended effect... to have people wait and see. In other words, they are not moving to any smart watches until Apple releases theirs. Why would you spend money on an Android Watch without knowing what Apple has in store? If you're an iPhone or iPad user, you wouldn't now because you want to see what Apple comes out with.
That presentation was primarily targeted as a stall tactic until they get everything working just right, instead of releasing beta devices and software like Google and company.
Or maybe it was to prepare the developer base for it; smart watches aren't really selling large numbers at this point anyway.