I can only imagine it'll look pretty pathetic, as she takes his arm and they start crossing the street towards his Bentley, and you start to chase after her yelling: "Wait! STOP!!! Didn't you see his expensive watch ran out of battery?!? I HAVE THE TIME RIGHT HERE!!! WAAAIT! WHY ARE YOU GETTING IN HIS CAR!?! DID YOU KNOW HIS WATCH ISNT WATER RESISTANT?! MINE IS!!!"
Admit it, it's just pathetic. A watch is something you wear the whole day around your wrist, and it's supposed to be on and available without interruption - not just something you take out of a pocket to check the home screen.
Admit it, it's just pathetic. A watch is something you wear the whole day around your wrist, and it's supposed to be on and available without interruption - not just something you take out of a pocket to check the home screen.
I must admit I've never been concerned about what my watch is displaying when I'm not looking.
Does a watch need to last all day?
As long as it can tell me the time the 20-50 times a day I look at it for a few seconds, I'm satisfied. And there's no indication the Apple watch won't do that.
(3-4 hours active usage is more than enough for that. Heck, an hour of active usage is probably where you should pick up your phone instead, since it's hell on your eyes and head to focus on a screen that small for that long.)
You want to see the time? Your twist your wrist like you would with any watch, screen springs into action, you lower your hand, and the screen goes to sleep. What's the big deal? Your iPhone does the same thing, why wouldn't a watch?
I looks like the wrist mounting offers peeks at information in a convenient fashion for when the phone is simply awkward to access, not as a continuous use item in the sense someone would view a video on it for hours at a stretch....
You're all making arguments that relegate this 'revolutionary" device in the category of a watch, or satellite for people concerned about the improprieties of leaving their smartphone on the table. So a watch you have to charge every night is simply unacceptable. And will people really be willing to charge their watches overnight, every night just have discreet remote notifications of things their phones already discreetly tell them? I work for a major corporation, and every executive sitting around the conference table at weekly meetings has their phone laying face up on the table. It's expected. And have people really not been wearing watches so long that they've forgotten glancing at your watch constantly during a meeting is just as impolite as looking at your phone? If not more-so because of the implication that you're bored?
So this limits the ?Watch use to timepieces, and politeness-intentioned smartphone users. Everything else then is a niche use due to the limited battery life, right? That seems to be the argument. So are people going to pay 2-3x the going rate for limited use gadget, the features of which will most likely be the crux of Apple's marketing campaign (not that it tells time and alerts you of who just sent you a text on the phone in your pocket)? Are people going to replace their TAG, Rolex & Citizens with it? Actually it's not so much will anybody, but will tens of millions of people do this, needed to sustain the ?Watch? Seems unlikely to me -- based on this recurring argument that barmy life won't matter since people will only be using it as a timepiece and a "pager".
As long as it can tell me the time the 20-50 times a day I look at it for a few seconds, I'm satisfied. And there's no indication the Apple watch won't do that. (3-4 hours active usage is more than enough for that.
Well, yes a watch does need to do that all day. But presumably people won't just be buying an Apple watch because it's an attractive timepiece. So what happens if they use those other features (that Apple will surely be featured in the marketing about what the ?Watch can do) and the watch dies after 3- hours of use? Then you have an Apple advertisement around your wrist for the rest of the day and not much else.
Then there's the bottom line -- what person buys a watch they have to charge every 19 hours? I wouldn't wear a watch at all if that were the reality of all watches. Then the argument becomes, but people will use it for notifications so they don't have to get their iPhones out of their pockets. But is that REALLY enough to encourage a watch wearer to charge a device every night that they currently don't have to think about powering for years at a time? And what about this gesture with the arm to keep from having to press the button? I can't really criticism it too much because I haven't seen it in action, but imagine a meeting where all the executives are constantly raising their arms and flicking their wrists for the latest updates from their phones? Yeah, that won't be distracting.
At the very least Apple could have come up with some innovative/discreet solar recharging solution, but they didn't.
The new Citizen EcoDrive Wave has GPS and charges from exposure to light. Lasts for years before the battery has to be replaced.
Granted a solar solution couldn't begin to replace the power the backlight, processor and radios use for any length of time, but for those who merely use it as a timepiece. It might extend things a bit. The GPS on the Eco Drive is manually engaged due to the power draw from automatic updates, so there probably is a mode where the watch can be enabled to automatically receive notices, or only when manually requested, as with the iPhone mail delivery schedule.
But with barely a day's worth of use before it must be recharged, I see this watch being more of a niche product anyway. It's a toy for early adopters to show off in their offices, who don't really care if it dies prematurely, because it's not really replacing anything they really use. But primarily it's a fitness watch that can sit on my charger at home, start on my wrist and head to the gym, and then remove it when I get home, ready for the next use. Again who's going to pay 3-4x the asking price of a fitbit, or other fitness band if that's the only way they're going to use it? And I suppose you could use it as a sleep tracker, assuming you won't be using it during the day. Of course you would make Apple really happy if you bought two -- one to charge during the day, and one to charge during the night, so you can actually use all of the features Apple's going to be marketing that it can do besides tell time 19 hours a day. Then again, maybe that's Apple's plan with so many styles and options -- they expect people to buy multiple ?Watches, one for sports, one for the office, one for night, one for formals ... wow why didn't anybody else think of this?
Clearly it's far from a universal problem, that a watch must last for weeks. It's a pretty recent phenomenon that watches last that long, a few decades ago it was normal to wind a watch every day or two, and everyone wore a watch then.
I had a Longine chronometer, something that was considered bulky then, but a flyweight compared with the Apple watch. It wound itself, and my other watches did not need winding every couple of days. All had reasonable periods of use, unaided, unlike the proposed absurd Apple Watch which is a toy in search of a reason.
Yikes. 2.5 hrs is unacceptable under any conditions (other than holding down the "emergency battery drain" button).
People will look like idiots walking around with dead devices strapped to their wrists (or worse; rolled-up inside their coat pocket).
Since to display only activates when you raise your wrist how would you know if the device is dead? More often than not the device will be in sleep mode.
Great. So us "wearers" will be able to 'fool' people because they'll never know if our watches are asleep, or if we're just walking around with a useless device strapped to our wrist.
Yikes. 2.5 hrs is unacceptable under any conditions (other than holding down the "emergency battery drain" button).
People will look like idiots walking around with dead devices strapped to their wrists (or worse; rolled-up inside their coat pocket).
That's more than the average smartphone daily usage and as an accessory I'd expect active interaction with a wrist device to be less. 19 hours of mixed use sounds like a more than reasonable day plus, so with nightly charging, which is a fairly light burden, I don't see that as an issue. Plus with 3 days in standby were you to use it as a simple timepiece where it would only wake up when you checked the time it would be more than fine as surely sometime during this three days you'd have the opportunity to take it off and give it a charge. Ever since my feature phone days I've charged devices while I slept.... I still do even though my 6 Plus doesn't need to.
Those special individuals that must watch movies on their wrist? Need to tape a smartphone there: the bigger screen will keep them from going blind (depending on what they watch of course.,...).
Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about.
2.5 hrs. 2.5 hrs
Yeah, I know; nobody knows till it's done. I'm just commenting on this point in the article.
If I go to the gym before work, monitor vitals during the day. Take messages, calls etc..
I don't know… 2.5 hrs!!! No way.
Apple is not going to release something like this. Ain't gonna happen.
Does a watch need to last all day?
As long as it can tell me the time the 20-50 times a day I look at it for a few seconds, I'm satisfied. And there's no indication the Apple watch won't do that.
If all you're doing with your smart watch is checking the time a few times a day then one wonders why you're interested in the ?Watch at all? Having to put it on charge every single night would seem even more of a chore if all I was getting out of it (over my iPhone) was slightly more convenient timekeeping.
Great. So us "wearers" will be able to 'fool' people because they'll never know if our watches are asleep, or if we're just walking around with a useless device strapped to our wrist.
"Excuse me sir; can you tell me the time?"
"Uh… no, I can't"
"???"
Great idea.
I'm getting my fake Apple Watch from alibaba. All the guys will look up to me and ask me for sage advice on being a man. Hot chicks will swoon all over me and ask me to do obscene things to them, so long as I keep my "Apple Watch" on.
But Chinese knockoffs will probably give themselves away by telling the time and having the battery last longer than 19 hrs!
Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about.
2.5 hrs. 2.5 hrs
Yeah, I know; nobody knows till it's done. I'm just commenting on this point in the article.
If I go to the gym before work, monitor vitals during the day. Take messages, calls etc..
I don't know… 2.5 hrs!!! No way.
Apple is not going to release something like this. Ain't gonna happen.
The Apple watch is supposed to come with:
2.5 hours of active use=screen is on with animations etc. playing.
AND
18 hours of passive use: Monitoring your vitals etc.
In other words, it's not ideal, but it's enough to get you through a day.
I'm getting my fake Apple Watch from alibaba. All the guys will look up to me and ask me for sage advice on being a man. Hot chicks will swoon all over me and ask me to do obscene things to them, so long as I keep my "Apple Watch" on.
But Chinese knockoffs will probably give themselves away by telling the time and having the battery last longer than 19 hrs!
Maybe get some knockoff Rolexes too there? I'm sure people would never tell the difference! You two sure are clever!
If all you're doing with your smart watch is checking the time a few times a day then one wonders why you're interested in the ?Watch at all? Having to put it on charge every single night would seem even more of a chore if all I was getting out of it (over my iPhone) was slightly more convenient
If you really consider it "a chore" or much of an effort, to put a watch on a charging stand instead of putting it on a nightstand, I sure hope you don't have any pets.
Cause you just know someone that monumentally lazy, can't be bothered to change the litter or take the dog for a walk more than once a week!
And the Apple watch doesn't compete with the iPhone or is targeted at gadget fans. It's aimed at a completely different market.
Great. So us "wearers" will be able to 'fool' people because they'll never know if our watches are asleep, or if we're just walking around with a useless device strapped to our wrist.
"Excuse me sir; can you tell me the time?"
"Uh… no, I can't"
"???"
What trauma or awful pain have you poor soul been through, that makes you so preoccupied and concerned with what random strangers think of your appearance and what's on your wrist?!? Whats behind this distasteful urge to use subterfuge to convince people your wearing a luxury item?!?
Or are you perhaps unfortunate enough, to live somewhere where complete strangers bend down to inspect your watch closely for authenticity if they think you're wearing a Rolex.
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I can only imagine it'll look pretty pathetic, as she takes his arm and they start crossing the street towards his Bentley, and you start to chase after her yelling: "Wait! STOP!!! Didn't you see his expensive watch ran out of battery?!? I HAVE THE TIME RIGHT HERE!!! WAAAIT! WHY ARE YOU GETTING IN HIS CAR!?! DID YOU KNOW HIS WATCH ISNT WATER RESISTANT?! MINE IS!!!"
Admit it, it's just pathetic. A watch is something you wear the whole day around your wrist, and it's supposed to be on and available without interruption - not just something you take out of a pocket to check the home screen.
I must admit I've never been concerned about what my watch is displaying when I'm not looking.
Does a watch need to last all day?
As long as it can tell me the time the 20-50 times a day I look at it for a few seconds, I'm satisfied. And there's no indication the Apple watch won't do that.
(3-4 hours active usage is more than enough for that. Heck, an hour of active usage is probably where you should pick up your phone instead, since it's hell on your eyes and head to focus on a screen that small for that long.)
You want to see the time? Your twist your wrist like you would with any watch, screen springs into action, you lower your hand, and the screen goes to sleep. What's the big deal? Your iPhone does the same thing, why wouldn't a watch?
I looks like the wrist mounting offers peeks at information in a convenient fashion for when the phone is simply awkward to access, not as a continuous use item in the sense someone would view a video on it for hours at a stretch....
You're all making arguments that relegate this 'revolutionary" device in the category of a watch, or satellite for people concerned about the improprieties of leaving their smartphone on the table. So a watch you have to charge every night is simply unacceptable. And will people really be willing to charge their watches overnight, every night just have discreet remote notifications of things their phones already discreetly tell them? I work for a major corporation, and every executive sitting around the conference table at weekly meetings has their phone laying face up on the table. It's expected. And have people really not been wearing watches so long that they've forgotten glancing at your watch constantly during a meeting is just as impolite as looking at your phone? If not more-so because of the implication that you're bored?
So this limits the ?Watch use to timepieces, and politeness-intentioned smartphone users. Everything else then is a niche use due to the limited battery life, right? That seems to be the argument. So are people going to pay 2-3x the going rate for limited use gadget, the features of which will most likely be the crux of Apple's marketing campaign (not that it tells time and alerts you of who just sent you a text on the phone in your pocket)? Are people going to replace their TAG, Rolex & Citizens with it? Actually it's not so much will anybody, but will tens of millions of people do this, needed to sustain the ?Watch? Seems unlikely to me -- based on this recurring argument that barmy life won't matter since people will only be using it as a timepiece and a "pager".
Does a watch need to last all day?
As long as it can tell me the time the 20-50 times a day I look at it for a few seconds, I'm satisfied. And there's no indication the Apple watch won't do that. (3-4 hours active usage is more than enough for that.
Well, yes a watch does need to do that all day. But presumably people won't just be buying an Apple watch because it's an attractive timepiece. So what happens if they use those other features (that Apple will surely be featured in the marketing about what the ?Watch can do) and the watch dies after 3- hours of use? Then you have an Apple advertisement around your wrist for the rest of the day and not much else.
Then there's the bottom line -- what person buys a watch they have to charge every 19 hours? I wouldn't wear a watch at all if that were the reality of all watches. Then the argument becomes, but people will use it for notifications so they don't have to get their iPhones out of their pockets. But is that REALLY enough to encourage a watch wearer to charge a device every night that they currently don't have to think about powering for years at a time? And what about this gesture with the arm to keep from having to press the button? I can't really criticism it too much because I haven't seen it in action, but imagine a meeting where all the executives are constantly raising their arms and flicking their wrists for the latest updates from their phones? Yeah, that won't be distracting.
Name me one Apple product that has- including OS.
At the very least Apple could have come up with some innovative/discreet solar recharging solution, but they didn't.
The new Citizen EcoDrive Wave has GPS and charges from exposure to light. Lasts for years before the battery has to be replaced.
Granted a solar solution couldn't begin to replace the power the backlight, processor and radios use for any length of time, but for those who merely use it as a timepiece. It might extend things a bit. The GPS on the Eco Drive is manually engaged due to the power draw from automatic updates, so there probably is a mode where the watch can be enabled to automatically receive notices, or only when manually requested, as with the iPhone mail delivery schedule.
But with barely a day's worth of use before it must be recharged, I see this watch being more of a niche product anyway. It's a toy for early adopters to show off in their offices, who don't really care if it dies prematurely, because it's not really replacing anything they really use. But primarily it's a fitness watch that can sit on my charger at home, start on my wrist and head to the gym, and then remove it when I get home, ready for the next use. Again who's going to pay 3-4x the asking price of a fitbit, or other fitness band if that's the only way they're going to use it? And I suppose you could use it as a sleep tracker, assuming you won't be using it during the day. Of course you would make Apple really happy if you bought two -- one to charge during the day, and one to charge during the night, so you can actually use all of the features Apple's going to be marketing that it can do besides tell time 19 hours a day. Then again, maybe that's Apple's plan with so many styles and options -- they expect people to buy multiple ?Watches, one for sports, one for the office, one for night, one for formals ... wow why didn't anybody else think of this?
Clearly it's far from a universal problem, that a watch must last for weeks. It's a pretty recent phenomenon that watches last that long, a few decades ago it was normal to wind a watch every day or two, and everyone wore a watch then.
I had a Longine chronometer, something that was considered bulky then, but a flyweight compared with the Apple watch. It wound itself, and my other watches did not need winding every couple of days. All had reasonable periods of use, unaided, unlike the proposed absurd Apple Watch which is a toy in search of a reason.
So you just said it's not a high end watch as it won't last for decades yet it's being marketed so far as such.
$350 isnt marketed as high-end. being made of solid gold is, for those that into that sort of thing. theyre getting it for the gold.
$350 isnt marketed as high-end. being made of solid gold is, for those that into that sort of thing. theyre getting it for the gold.
So how much is the gold actually worth and how much is Apple charging for it?
Do you actually have to show you failed an IQ test to get one?
Well, we're already almost into February.
So much for the Apple Watch launching in 'early 2015'.
wrong. months 1-3 = early part of the year. 4-7 = mid. 8-12 = end.
Yikes. 2.5 hrs is unacceptable under any conditions (other than holding down the "emergency battery drain" button).
People will look like idiots walking around with dead devices strapped to their wrists (or worse; rolled-up inside their coat pocket).
Since to display only activates when you raise your wrist how would you know if the device is dead? More often than not the device will be in sleep mode.
Great. So us "wearers" will be able to 'fool' people because they'll never know if our watches are asleep, or if we're just walking around with a useless device strapped to our wrist.
"Excuse me sir; can you tell me the time?"
"Uh… no, I can't"
"???"
Yikes. 2.5 hrs is unacceptable under any conditions (other than holding down the "emergency battery drain" button).
People will look like idiots walking around with dead devices strapped to their wrists (or worse; rolled-up inside their coat pocket).
That's more than the average smartphone daily usage and as an accessory I'd expect active interaction with a wrist device to be less. 19 hours of mixed use sounds like a more than reasonable day plus, so with nightly charging, which is a fairly light burden, I don't see that as an issue. Plus with 3 days in standby were you to use it as a simple timepiece where it would only wake up when you checked the time it would be more than fine as surely sometime during this three days you'd have the opportunity to take it off and give it a charge. Ever since my feature phone days I've charged devices while I slept.... I still do even though my 6 Plus doesn't need to.
Those special individuals that must watch movies on their wrist? Need to tape a smartphone there: the bigger screen will keep them from going blind (depending on what they watch of course.,...).
Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about.
2.5 hrs. 2.5 hrs
Yeah, I know; nobody knows till it's done. I'm just commenting on this point in the article.
If I go to the gym before work, monitor vitals during the day. Take messages, calls etc..
I don't know… 2.5 hrs!!! No way.
Apple is not going to release something like this. Ain't gonna happen.
Great. So us "wearers" will be able to 'fool' people because they'll never know if our watches are asleep, or if we're just walking around with a useless device strapped to our wrist.
"Excuse me sir; can you tell me the time?"
"Uh… no, I can't"
"???"
Great idea.
I'm getting my fake Apple Watch from alibaba. All the guys will look up to me and ask me for sage advice on being a man. Hot chicks will swoon all over me and ask me to do obscene things to them, so long as I keep my "Apple Watch" on.
But Chinese knockoffs will probably give themselves away by telling the time and having the battery last longer than 19 hrs!
But Chinese knockoffs will probably give themselves away by telling the time and having the battery last longer than 19 hrs!
Provided they use a battery and not just a block of lead.
Sure it isn't a lead acid battery? That might actually give it the battery life we are all after.
I'll see if I can find that block of wood with a screen hand drawn on it that was sold to some women in the States when the iPad first come out.
I always admired the effort that they went to to make sure she didn't feel totally cheated!
The Apple watch is supposed to come with:
2.5 hours of active use=screen is on with animations etc. playing.
AND
18 hours of passive use: Monitoring your vitals etc.
In other words, it's not ideal, but it's enough to get you through a day.
Maybe get some knockoff Rolexes too there? I'm sure people would never tell the difference! You two sure are clever!
If you really consider it "a chore" or much of an effort, to put a watch on a charging stand instead of putting it on a nightstand, I sure hope you don't have any pets.
Cause you just know someone that monumentally lazy, can't be bothered to change the litter or take the dog for a walk more than once a week!
And the Apple watch doesn't compete with the iPhone or is targeted at gadget fans. It's aimed at a completely different market.
What trauma or awful pain have you poor soul been through, that makes you so preoccupied and concerned with what random strangers think of your appearance and what's on your wrist?!? Whats behind this distasteful urge to use subterfuge to convince people your wearing a luxury item?!?
Or are you perhaps unfortunate enough, to live somewhere where complete strangers bend down to inspect your watch closely for authenticity if they think you're wearing a Rolex.
Either way... You have my deepest sympathies.
I predict the rise of Wearable-Batteries-with-Apple-Watch-MagSafe dongles in 3,2,1...