Apple's Jony Ive and Tesla's Elon Musk 'inseparable' in conversation at Oscars afterparty

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  • Reply 41 of 141
    or Apple buys Tesla
  • Reply 42 of 141
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,102member
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    Originally Posted by razorpit View Post



    Jony may have style but he obviously doesn't have taste. Madonna? Yuck!

     

     

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    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post



    How does attending an after party of a celebrity indicate your taste? What do you personally have against Madonna, because it's surely not just about her music or I doubt you would have mentioned anything about it since he probably only interacted with her guests for a brief moment before going to glad-hand someone else.

     



    That was a pretty arrogant response... in Razorpit's fantasy, he's in a position to choose what after-party he's going to attend.



    And then he wakes up....

  • Reply 43 of 141
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    Madge might not be your taste but she is one of the most successful women on this planet.

     

    I'd imagine that she, Jony and Elon would have a lot to discuss.




    also one of the most driven and hard working people, from what I've read...

  • Reply 44 of 141
    ktappe wrote: »
    I've never understood Madonna hate. She has more talent in her little finger than most people do in their entire bodies. She writes her own music and doesn't need Autotune to sound good. Sure she's a bit weird but so are most artists. What's the issue??

    I have nothing against Madonna as a person. Nothing for her, either. I'm very neutral on her and pretty much every celebrity (although there is something about Kate Beckinsale that appeals to me).

    As for her music, I don't care for most of it, but that's just an individual taste in music, and in no way makes me an expert on her character or gives me insight into her after parties. I've heard that her parties can be wild, but that might be from a younger Madonna. Then there is Jim Jefferies stand-up "Bare"(?) in which he talks about his girlfriend and mother of his kid having dated a basketball player and was hanging out with Madonna and Dennis Rodman doing drugs and having group sex. That segment of the standup starts about 1 minute in...

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  • Reply 45 of 141
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member

    I think Elon Musk would make a great 007 Bond villain. Ive could be his evil henchman and Serenity Caldwell could be the hot tech nerd who hacks into Musk’s protected lair. 

  • Reply 46 of 141
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    That's a fine dress Heather Pegg is wearing. [I]Papaver somniferum[/I], if i'm not mistaken. Beautiful flower.
  • Reply 47 of 141
    redefiler wrote: »

    Never going to happen.  Musk doesn't really bring any tangible skills to the table that Apple needs.

    It's also a massive waste of debt and more.
  • Reply 48 of 141
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Well according to the tabloids Madonna wasn't even at this party. But apparently Jimmy Iovine was there.
  • Reply 49 of 141
    jmgregory1 wrote: »

    I noted in another post something similar.  Elon knows the front end of both the S and X are a weak point in design.  They've wrestled with how to keep a visual connection to what people expect a car to have - like a front grill, on a car that in fact needs no front grill.  Past efforts by GM with their initial EV1, show just how bad a grill-less car can look, so Tesla tried to tack on something that would bring continuity and it didn't work visually. 

    Cars don't have to have a front grille to look good. See: 1986 Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable.
  • Reply 50 of 141
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,374moderator
    ktappe wrote: »
    razorpit wrote: »
    Jony may have style but he obviously doesn't have taste. Madonna? Yuck!

    I've never understood Madonna hate. She has more talent in her little finger than most people do in their entire bodies. She writes her own music and doesn't need Autotune to sound good. Sure she's a bit weird but so are most artists. What's the issue??

    Speaking of not needing autotune, Lady Gaga is pretty good too. Her live Sound of Music rendition at the Oscars was impressive:


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  • Reply 51 of 141
    Marvin wrote: »
    Speaking of not needing autotune, Lady Gaga is pretty good too. Her live Sound of Music rendition at the Oscars was impressive:

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    I don't find Madonna's talent to be in how well she can sing, but I feel Gaga has an amazing voice.


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  • Reply 52 of 141

    Possible scenarios? Musk offers the CEO position at Tesla to Ive... Musk is just making idle chit-chat with one of his future co-workers at Apple... They were all just waiting for the appetizers...

  • Reply 53 of 141
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    I don't find Madonna's talent to be in how well she can sing, but I feel Gaga has an amazing voice.

     

    Despite the criticisms surrounding her success and commercialism, I find Miss Germanotta to be a committed musical artist and talent. Like many artists, she also seems a bit wacky at times.

  • Reply 54 of 141
    Despite the criticisms surrounding her success and commercialism, I find Miss Germanotta to be a committed musical artist and talent. Like many artists, she also seems a bit wacky at times.

    There are many great singers in the world, but very few that write well and know how to market themselves. If people can't see past that aspect of the presentation or wish to say she's not attractive enough to listen to then it's their loss.
  • Reply 55 of 141

    I love to see Apple talking to Tesla, my two favorite companies.

     

    Apple stock gone up since first purchased: 744%

    Tesla stock gone up since first purchased: 592%

     

    Both seemed to know what they are doing, or the market thinks they know what they are doing.

     

    Personally, I think Apple and Tesla collaboration(speculative) has to do with space.......

  • Reply 56 of 141
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,091member

    What's the difference between Apple and Tesla? Apple makes something I can afford.

  • Reply 57 of 141
    mjtomlin wrote: »
    It's obvious what happened...

    Apple offered to buy Tesla, Elon declined. <span style="line-height:1.4em;">Instead Elon talked Tim into starting their own EV program - for a lot less money.</span>


    Was it a coincidence that a few months after the meeting between the two companies, Elon decided to give away all of Tesla's patents and IP? With that research, Apple (and anyone else) will not need to start from the beginning. They get a huge jump forward in developing their own car. Elon is more interested in pushing the EV industry forward, than he is in having the market to himself. Personally, I think he's become frustrated with the lack of development from the established players who are all still in bed with the oil companies. And I think he sees a very powerful ally in Apple, due to their size and resources. If Apple decides to enter this market, regardless of the lip service we've recently heard, every car manufacturer knows they're going to need to get off their asses.

    If more manufacturers jump in, it'll be easier and much quicker to get the sales and charging station infrastructure in place.

    This is the most sensible reasoning I've seen on the subject.
  • Reply 58 of 141

    EV cars use coal also, as electricity is not carbon free. And you have to have a very expensive (for us) unit installed in your garage.

  • Reply 59 of 141
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    Speaking of not needing autotune, Lady Gaga is pretty good too. Her live Sound of Music rendition at the Oscars was impressive:



     

    Sorry, that's a lip sync, not a live vocal performance,

    her concert vocals are also 100% in the can, 

    and she uses plenty of Auto-tune, it's just dialed back from Cher/Kanye levels.

  • Reply 60 of 141
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    Sometimes I just have to shake my head.
    mjtomlin wrote: »
    It's obvious what happened...

    Apple offered to buy Tesla, Elon declined. <span style="line-height:1.4em;">Instead Elon talked Tim into starting their own EV program - for a lot less money.</span>
    I really doubt that Elon would try to do that.

    Was it a coincidence that a few months after the meeting between the two companies, Elon decided to give away all of Tesla's patents and IP? With that research, Apple (and anyone else) will not need to start from the beginning. They get a huge jump forward in developing their own car. Elon is more interested in pushing the EV industry forward, than he is in having the market to himself.
    I can't read Elons mind but the basic technology behind electric cars has been around for decades now. Motors and solid state controller have been used in industry for decades now. The goal of the controllers might be different but in the end the hardware is very similar. The problem with electric cars has never been motors or controllers. The problem has been and still is with the batteries.
    Personally, I think he's become frustrated with the lack of development from the established players who are all still in bed with the oil companies.
    Really can you please knock off this nonsense about the auto companies being in bed with the oil companies. Autos run on oil derived fuels because there isn't really a good option available. There is literally billions of dollars being spent every year on battery research and we still don't have a viable automobile battery. The costs of the batteries is another issue, if the ideal battery is developed, it needs to be cost effective. This doesn't even consider what recharging a battery will do to the electrical grid if electric cars really do take off.

    In a nut shell gas fuels modern cars and will do so until a decent power solution if found for autos. Not I say power solution because it isn't a given that batteries are even the answer long term.
    And I think he sees a very powerful ally in Apple, due to their size and resources. If Apple decides to enter this market, regardless of the lip service we've recently heard, every car manufacturer knows they're going to need to get off their asses.
    They are off their asses already. Hybrids are a good interim approach to solving the gasoline usage problem. The technology behind electric cars has been solved for years now except for the power source issue. When and if that gets addressed you will see mainstream cars going electric.
    If more manufacturers jump in, it'll be easier and much quicker to get the sales and charging station infrastructure in place.
    Actually it won't be all that easy, in many locations the power infrastructure simply wouldn't be able to handle a massive number of cars recharging all at once. Take one gas station that may have twelve pumps and replace those pumps with twelve charging stations, that becomes a massive load on the electrical infrastructure. Even charging at home, at night becomes a problem if everybody in the neighborhood does the same thing.

    Now don't take anything I've said as a negative view of electric cars. I'm a guy that has at one time considered building one of my own. I just view the technology through clear glasses not the rose colored ones. Hell electric cars can be ideal for some users even now, they just aren't capable of replacing gas powered machines for the majority.
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