The fact is most people here won't know what is going to happen, and I'll take your stories about your quick purchases of Mercedes with a pinch of salt.
Asymco recently made a good point - the super rich are all the same. Basically same limited number of car makes, same vacation spots, same clothing. So if this watch becomes the in thing it will be big. The middle classes are more diverse.
Will the Apple watch edition get into that limited set of watches that signal wealth amongst the rich? We don't know. It's not enough to be expensive, a product needs momentum and cachet. Nobody can guess the future.
I love Apple IIs/Macs and have only used them for 25 years now - I also like my iPhone/iPad a lot, as they are the best phones/tablets in the world - finally, I have converted more than 25 people to Macs (and counting)...probably a LOT more than some of the rabid newbies here, and all that without even caring to own a single Apple share.
That doesn't mean I need to agree with everything Apple does, and particularly not under Cook's uninspired watch (no pun intended).
Hmmm, let's see. . .You're Swiss, and seem distinctly unimpressed with the ?Watch, the new Apple product which is poised to turn the Swiss watch industry on its very head. . .Wonder if there's any sort of vested interest here. . .Did someone tell or pay you to make these stupid statements? "Cook's uninspired watch" seems very much like desperation to me.
Hmmm, let's see. . .You're Swiss, and seem distinctly unimpressed with the ?Watch, the new Apple product which is poised to turn the Swiss watch industry on its very head. . .Wonder if there's any sort of vested interest here. . .Did someone tell or pay you to make these stupid statements? "Cook's uninspired watch" seems very much like desperation to me.
I can tell you my ceramic RADO looks way better than the AW, while requiring a battery change only once every five years...it doesn't take a Swiss to know the obvious.
The fact is most people here won't know what is going to happen, and I'll take your stories about your quick purchases of Mercedes with a pinch of salt.
Asymco recently made a good point - the super rich are all the same. Basically same limited number of car makes, same vacation spots, same clothing. So if this watch becomes the in thing it will be big. The middle classes are more diverse.
Will the Apple watch edition get into that limited set of watches that signal wealth amongst the rich? We don't know. It's not enough to be expensive, a product needs momentum and cachet. Nobody can guess the future.
Did you know that all generalities are false (except the one I just made!)? So why do y'all keep making so many stupid ones?
These "rich peeeepul" and "po' peeeepul" simply don't exist, save in your perverse imagination.
What WILL exist is the ?Watch. And it WILL have profound effects on this entire ballgame we call "computing."
It's the most personal product Apple has produced, according to Sir Jony. Now that's a very telling statement, if you look at it in the sense that the ?Watch is a new form factor for a computing device. Forget all the competition's junk crap. They're just toys and gimmicks, including whatever TAG Huer/Google might ever come up with.
With an ?Watch on a person's wrist, a huge majority of reasons to pull one's iPhone out of one's pocket or purse will no longer be there. This will have many implications for daily life routines, enhanced convenience, new functions never thought of before, etc., etc.
It's yet another paradigm shift and shift in form factor away from the already convenient and ubiquitous smart phone and to a smaller, more personal, and more accessible "watch." "Watch" is as much a term of convenience as "phone" was for the iPhone. But the ?Watch will be far more than a mere watch, and will of course keep progressing as new technology and new capabilities are incorporated in future editions.
All this yammering is so silly. Simply wait and see for yourselves. Or not.
In the English language "excited" is not necessarily a positive thing - so your perception is spot on.
No, what you're doing is called "twisting facts to support your own conclusions", which btw, is another way of saying you assume the ?WATCH will fail, and you know what they say about people who assume...
Hmmm, let's see. . .You're Swiss, and seem distinctly unimpressed with the ?Watch, the new Apple product which is poised to turn the Swiss watch industry on its very head. . .Wonder if there's any sort of vested interest here. . .Did someone tell or pay you to make these stupid statements? "Cook's uninspired watch" seems very much like desperation to me.
I think it's not so much desperation, just blind stupidity and ignorance... The old stick your head in the sand syndrome...
for that price it should include a lap dance at the genius bar...
At first I was going to scream at you for that suggestion, but then thought about it, and now I don't think it's such a bad idea... Some of the girls working at Apple Stores can be pretty cute in my area :smokey:
Regardless of whether 15 or 30 minutes is better, why have any time limit in the first place? The very idea is off-putting even before stepping in the store. I have bought jewellery before (not for me), and I sat down in a comfortable, small shop, offered several cocktails, with no one there but me and several staff, and was able to peruse jewellery brought to me at leisure. If I had thought that I had an arbitrary time limit, I would have gone elsewhere.
As Apple are selling this as a fashion item, they need to adopt the same approach. It is as though they are caught between a rock and a hard place: on one hand, they want to sell tons of them, much like the iDevices, so they are worried about too many people gumming up the works for others. On the other hand, they want to give it an air of exclusivity and luxury, in order to compete with other fashion accessories. These two things don't mix, though. Either they offer a service that competes with similar retail experiences, and accept relatively tiny sales, or they don't, in order to increase sales. But in this case, I see them selling very few Edition Watches, because they won't have offered a commensurate experience. However, this may be where non-Apple retail outlets come to their aid.
My feeling is that they shouldn’t try selling any Edition Watches in Apple retail stores, because it just isn't the right experience or anywhere close to it. In addition, they should scrap any time limits, as I don't think they'll be necessary, and all they do is cause further resentment of Apple.
I think this is more a general guideline and not something they're going to make apparent to the customer. Much like Genius Bar appointments have an allotted amount of time, I have never had one cut short due to time constraints, and if anything the Genius might excuse themselves to get someone else started or check on something, but they never mention time limits or rush you. And I've sat there and watched people go over the most simple and mundane tasks (to experienced users) with their iMac plugged in at the bar for fairly long periods of time.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're being very specifically trained to never make the customer feel rushed or constrained by time when potentially making a Watch purchase. Otherwise, THAT would be an odd misstep by Apple.
I can tell you my ceramic RADO looks way better than the AW, while requiring a battery change only once every five years...it doesn't take a Swiss to know the obvious.
I don't know what a RADO is, but tell me -- can it make payments? can it track my activity? can I tap my loved ones with it? send my heartbeat? nope, nope, nope, and nope.
no wonder you don't have to charge it - IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING! hahahahahaha
Wow. This is really interesting news. That is really going to slow down the purchase process for those undecided and have to schedule an appointment to go in and see one. And then when your 15 minutes are up? Talk about sales pressure. Do people have to do that at an jewelry stores? Very un-Apple-like, but what else are they gonna do? They can't have a watch tethered to something, nor does it seem like they could otherwise secure the bands.
I am curious what kind of demo mode the device will have to get a sense of how it will interact with your iPhone, presuming during that 15 minutes you won't be able to pair your phone with it.
I'm guessing you've never been in a Chanel shop or Bottega Veneta or Hermes shopping for a limited stock of $10,000 handbags. Most of the time, even if you're dressed in a $10,000 suit, they won't even let you touch it.
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I wonder what the restock fee would be if it's returned?
Probably 15% in shame for wasting that much money on a watch that needs to be recharged daily
Maybe they just brand you with a big red 'A' on your forehead.
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I'm both terrified and excited about what the Apple Watch means for Apple moving forward.
Indeed. In this case it should be called 'I am stupid' Remorse Fee.
Don't sell the house/trailer just for that watch. There are cheaper watches.
The fact is most people here won't know what is going to happen, and I'll take your stories about your quick purchases of Mercedes with a pinch of salt.
Asymco recently made a good point - the super rich are all the same. Basically same limited number of car makes, same vacation spots, same clothing. So if this watch becomes the in thing it will be big. The middle classes are more diverse.
Will the Apple watch edition get into that limited set of watches that signal wealth amongst the rich? We don't know. It's not enough to be expensive, a product needs momentum and cachet. Nobody can guess the future.
In the English language "excited" is not necessarily a positive thing - so your perception is spot on.
I love Apple IIs/Macs and have only used them for 25 years now - I also like my iPhone/iPad a lot, as they are the best phones/tablets in the world - finally, I have converted more than 25 people to Macs (and counting)...probably a LOT more than some of the rabid newbies here, and all that without even caring to own a single Apple share.
That doesn't mean I need to agree with everything Apple does, and particularly not under Cook's uninspired watch (no pun intended).
Hmmm, let's see. . .You're Swiss, and seem distinctly unimpressed with the ?Watch, the new Apple product which is poised to turn the Swiss watch industry on its very head. . .Wonder if there's any sort of vested interest here. . .Did someone tell or pay you to make these stupid statements? "Cook's uninspired watch" seems very much like desperation to me.
I can tell you my ceramic RADO looks way better than the AW, while requiring a battery change only once every five years...it doesn't take a Swiss to know the obvious.
More heat than light here.
The fact is most people here won't know what is going to happen, and I'll take your stories about your quick purchases of Mercedes with a pinch of salt.
Asymco recently made a good point - the super rich are all the same. Basically same limited number of car makes, same vacation spots, same clothing. So if this watch becomes the in thing it will be big. The middle classes are more diverse.
Will the Apple watch edition get into that limited set of watches that signal wealth amongst the rich? We don't know. It's not enough to be expensive, a product needs momentum and cachet. Nobody can guess the future.
Did you know that all generalities are false (except the one I just made!)? So why do y'all keep making so many stupid ones?
These "rich peeeepul" and "po' peeeepul" simply don't exist, save in your perverse imagination.
What WILL exist is the ?Watch. And it WILL have profound effects on this entire ballgame we call "computing."
It's the most personal product Apple has produced, according to Sir Jony. Now that's a very telling statement, if you look at it in the sense that the ?Watch is a new form factor for a computing device. Forget all the competition's junk crap. They're just toys and gimmicks, including whatever TAG Huer/Google might ever come up with.
With an ?Watch on a person's wrist, a huge majority of reasons to pull one's iPhone out of one's pocket or purse will no longer be there. This will have many implications for daily life routines, enhanced convenience, new functions never thought of before, etc., etc.
It's yet another paradigm shift and shift in form factor away from the already convenient and ubiquitous smart phone and to a smaller, more personal, and more accessible "watch." "Watch" is as much a term of convenience as "phone" was for the iPhone. But the ?Watch will be far more than a mere watch, and will of course keep progressing as new technology and new capabilities are incorporated in future editions.
All this yammering is so silly. Simply wait and see for yourselves. Or not.
I hope Apple has increased security around the sale of these Edition watches.
I've seen thieves with retail Apple employees pretending to be interested in buying an iPhone, only to grab and run off.
Maybe they're displayed away from the exit areas.
No, what you're doing is called "twisting facts to support your own conclusions", which btw, is another way of saying you assume the ?WATCH will fail, and you know what they say about people who assume...
I think it's not so much desperation, just blind stupidity and ignorance... The old stick your head in the sand syndrome...
At first I was going to scream at you for that suggestion, but then thought about it, and now I don't think it's such a bad idea... Some of the girls working at Apple Stores can be pretty cute in my area :smokey:
Yet another odd mis-step by Apple.
Regardless of whether 15 or 30 minutes is better, why have any time limit in the first place? The very idea is off-putting even before stepping in the store. I have bought jewellery before (not for me), and I sat down in a comfortable, small shop, offered several cocktails, with no one there but me and several staff, and was able to peruse jewellery brought to me at leisure. If I had thought that I had an arbitrary time limit, I would have gone elsewhere.
As Apple are selling this as a fashion item, they need to adopt the same approach. It is as though they are caught between a rock and a hard place: on one hand, they want to sell tons of them, much like the iDevices, so they are worried about too many people gumming up the works for others. On the other hand, they want to give it an air of exclusivity and luxury, in order to compete with other fashion accessories. These two things don't mix, though. Either they offer a service that competes with similar retail experiences, and accept relatively tiny sales, or they don't, in order to increase sales. But in this case, I see them selling very few Edition Watches, because they won't have offered a commensurate experience. However, this may be where non-Apple retail outlets come to their aid.
My feeling is that they shouldn’t try selling any Edition Watches in Apple retail stores, because it just isn't the right experience or anywhere close to it. In addition, they should scrap any time limits, as I don't think they'll be necessary, and all they do is cause further resentment of Apple.
I think this is more a general guideline and not something they're going to make apparent to the customer. Much like Genius Bar appointments have an allotted amount of time, I have never had one cut short due to time constraints, and if anything the Genius might excuse themselves to get someone else started or check on something, but they never mention time limits or rush you. And I've sat there and watched people go over the most simple and mundane tasks (to experienced users) with their iMac plugged in at the bar for fairly long periods of time.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're being very specifically trained to never make the customer feel rushed or constrained by time when potentially making a Watch purchase. Otherwise, THAT would be an odd misstep by Apple.
and yet it's the best smartwatch money can buy. what smartwatch gets better charging?
I don't know what a RADO is, but tell me -- can it make payments? can it track my activity? can I tap my loved ones with it? send my heartbeat? nope, nope, nope, and nope.
no wonder you don't have to charge it - IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING! hahahahahaha
Makes sense. I bet many appointments will run long at the beginning.
I wish they would make it easier to buy accessories, gift cards etc. Hate waiting for help to buy something off the shelf.
They really need a standard checkout line for that stuff. Especially during peak times and the holidays.
agree.
Brlawyer location: Switzerlland
No wonder you hate the Apple Watch
Actually, his location says 'currently in Switzerland' which implies he isn't Swiss.