The liberal solution to everything is to give it money because it is all they care about.
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Originally Posted by Slurpy
Tim Cook has an infinitely better chance of entering "The Kingdom of Heaven" than you. So maybe focus on worrying about your own fate, instead of Cook's.
and with that statement you join the target of your own criticism.
I find it amazing that you found a way to critize positive article about Tim Cook giving away all his money to charity. This tell us a lot about your lack character
It takes a special kind of person to go out of their way to mock and deride someone for giving money to charity.
If Tim Cook really wished to be good, he would give away all of his money today.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Bible (CEB)
Judging
Matthew 7 “Don’t judge, so that you won’t be judged. 2 You’ll receive the same judgment you give. Whatever you deal out will be dealt out to you."
Tim Cook has presided over the greatest DROP in Apple product quality I've noticed since the second Jobs era began.
I run into more frustrating bugs in Apple products than I ever had before, and while I used to believe that "It Just Works" was a slogan that you could truly use to describe the experience of using Apple gear (for the most part...no company or product is perfect), that's no longer remotely true.
Apple has become sloppy, and very slow at addressing its sloppiness when it does finally move to correct it.
And yet, the idea that Apple products "Just Work" is what created all of the great opportunities for Apple in the last 15+ years. It compelled people to pay a premium for Apple gear, and it compelled them to trust Apple when it introduced new products in new categories.
But under Tim Cook's watch, that's all started to noticeably erode. It's not the mark of a great leader. It's the mark of **mediocrity.** <span style="line-height:1.4em;">Tim has been coasting on Apple's earlier greatness and tremendous momentum. That doesn't stop on a dime but it's very telling that the most important asset Apple has ever had -- It Just Works -- is what has suffered the most since Tim has taken the helm. </span>
Um, I can tell you some horror stories about Apple products and bugs well within the Steve Jobs era. There were times I thought my Mac 'just didn't work'.
Typical liberal idea of "doing good" which often tends to fall very short of intentions (much shorter than other means of doing good available).
[trashy rant redacted]
If Tim were smart, he'd create a giant incubator for new businesses, and the teaching of business skills and "invention" skills...all for profit, and all subject to the same realities that free-market, for-profit businesses have to deal with.
What I love is that people like you always drop keywords that make it easy for any rational human beings to completely disregard your post and laugh away your credibility. Sure, you may differ idelogically with Cook, but pretending the guy is a moron by the "if Tim were smart" line, and denying his obvious intelligence, makes it clear how childish, shallow, and superficial you actually are.
You agreed to the same terms of use I did when I signed up here. You're on a public forum on a privately owned site and subject to the same criticisms as anyone.
How is it "selfless" to donate your money to charity after you die?
What if he could have spent it instead on, say, buying a plot of land and erecting a giant 50-foot statue of himself in gold with an inscription in the base that said "Built the most valuable company on earth"?
Do you think that a donating to charity -- even if after death -- would be a more selfless act?
Sorry, complete horse-shit. I've had infinitely more issues with Apple products in the past than I have today, whether it's OSX or iOS. There's only the perception of more bugs, because the software has so many new features, moving parts, and most importantly of all, USERS. When you sell 75,000,000 of a single product in a quarter, the amount of people with issues or whiners is going to be magnified. And we also get sensational people like you, who prefer to exaggerate in order to push a particular narrative. The fact that you don't have a SINGLE word of praise for Cook, even though he's universally admired with what he's accomplished and where he's taken Apple, and the fact that you use a word like "coast" - when Apple has made MASSIVE changes and improvements to both its software, hardware, and services the past couple years - proves the utter lack of your objectivity. Just like so many other trolls, you're being intellectually dishonest about the "it just works" meme, as if that was ever really the case.
"Coasting"? Fucking ridiculous. No one who has followed Apple closely from 2011 until now can make that statement with a straight face, with the myriad of innovations that have taken place, both hardware and software. Even beyond that:
- Apple products are still rated as best of their product categories in almost all major reviews, even with so much competition.
- Apple customer satisfaction ratings are through the roof
- Apple sales are through the roof, even with higher prices
- Apple revenues/profits through the roof
- Stock through the roof
There's not a single shred of emperical evidence for your claims. If things were as bad as you say they are, people would stop buying Apple products, not increase in rate.
I certainly don't think there's been a drop in software quality per-say however there have been quite a number of bugs (some quite significant) in both OS's that I think would benefit from a more slow and measured release schedule particularly where iOS is concerned. In the early days I see why Apple tied the software to the hardware but these days I think they need to seperate the two to allow more time for refinement.
As for the OP, Apple is hardly coasting as he put it.
Let's be clear here... I'm no Bible scholar, but I was awake during this Bible lesson... This quote was given as analogy to a man who THOUGHT his money could buy his way into Heaven.
I see no moral relevance in the quote to Tim Cook.
What is interesting is that the Bible quote makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Why? Because it is a mistake. The 'so called' perfect manuscript has several typos you know. What does a camel have to do with a needle? Well nothing really. See, in this verse, the word "camel" is actually supposed to be "rope". Then, the sentence makes sense because a rope is just a really fat thread, right? Why did this mistake happen? Because at that time it was common to use camel hair to make ropes and when it was translated the scribe made a mistake, but no one wants to change it because it is the Word of God.
It still doesn't change the intrinsic meaning.
You're splitting hairs. If it did refer to rope, then it would be a literal analogy; rope is hard to thread through a needle, obviously.
But a needle was also a reference to a type of passageway/doorway in towns which was very narrow. It was therefore very hard for a camel to get through them.
Awesome! Way to go Tim, and great job setting a selfless example for others.
How is it "selfless" to donate your money to charity after you die?
Quite.
It’s hardly a big deal for Tim Cook to give away his money. Anyone with $1 billion would be a fool not to, in order to avoid a huge tax bill. He's hardly going to be on the streets.
I think it would be better of him to give most of it away now, so that good can be done with it more quickly. Goodness, he could give away $990 million and still be left with $10 million. Just think what you could do with that. At any rate, I thought he had far more than that; doesn't he have several billion dollars worth of Apple shares?
The liberal solution to everything is to give it money because it is all they care about.
and with that statement you join the target of your own criticism in stupid-land.
Based on that one response, you've not only proven you're a useless troll amongst the many now infesting this place, but have less intelligence and experience than Slurpy has in his pinky, congrats. :no:
The great thing about these threads is exposes the truly horrible human beings on this board. And, not surprisingly, these people tend to be highly correlated with the Apple-bashing trolls (like BF that you quoted, as an obvious example), as if those 2 aspects had something in common. Who would have though. But yeah, it takes a special kind of person to go out of their way to mock and deride someone for giving money to charity.
The really great thing about these threads is that they expose a growing number of people who do not think. They don't think about the words they use or the things they say. They have begun devolving into people who knee-jerk their reactions without any consideration for logic, reason, or rationality. These reactions are almost always some immature emotional response that will take anything that doesn't appear to be "100% SUPPORT" and view it as if it is "100% criticism."
You and several others are guilty.
The first mindless comment posted was "Way to go Tim, and great job setting a selfless example for others."
There is nothing "selfless" about donating your wealth to charity after your death. It isn't actually a personal sacrifice at all. I didn't criticize Cook for his decision, but I did ask "how is that "selfless?" because it appeared to me the person who said it either didn't think or did not understand the word "selfless". Of course somebody named "SpamSandwich" took immediate offense to this because I'm not allowed to ask the question "how is that selfless?" To do so must mean I am an Apple-basher or troll. I'm neither. I'm an AAPL investor.
Now you (and others) take tremendous offense to "If Tim Cook really wished to be good, he would give away all of his money today. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven."
The first half of the statement is true. Cook donating his money now would actually be a legitimate, "selfless" act.
The second half (about the camel and heaven) is what really set most of you off though. You can always tell the liberals because they can't stand the idea of anybody trying to quote Christ where they don't want to see it. Why just LOOK at all the venom and bile that began to spill out after that!
NasserAE came along and said that those words were "criticism" and that it showed a "lack of character". Neither is true.
And to top it off, along comes you. Why don't you tell me who "the truly horrible human beings on this board" are? And do me a favor and quote the person who "mocked and derided Tim Cook for giving money to charity?"
Nobody did. Even NolaMacGuy did not mock or deride Cook. He had what he thought was a legitimate criticism, and most of you attempted to tear him apart for it. Critic? Sure. Troll? Not with this post he wasn't.
Based on that one response, you've not only proven you're a useless troll amongst the many now infesting this place, but have less intelligence and experience than Slurpy has in his pinky, congrats.
Troll? Not likely. My thousands of shares of APPL says otherwise. Carry on.
The great thing about these threads is exposes the truly horrible human beings on this board. And, not surprisingly, these people tend to be highly correlated with the Apple-bashing trolls (like BF that you quoted, as an obvious example), as if those 2 aspects had something in common. Who would have though. But yeah, it takes a special kind of person to go out of their way to mock and deride someone for giving money to charity.
The really great thing about these threads is that they expose a growing number of people who do not think. They don't think about the words they use or the things they say. They have begun devolving into people who knee-jerk their reactions without any consideration for logic, reason, or rationality. These reactions are almost always some immature emotional response that will take anything that doesn't appear to be "100% SUPPORT" and view it as if it is "100% criticism."
You and several others are guilty.
The first mindless comment posted was "Way to go Tim, and great job setting a selfless example for others."
There is nothing "selfless" about donating your wealth to charity after your death. It isn't actually a personal sacrifice at all. I didn't criticize Cook for his decision, but I did ask "how is that "selfless?" because it appeared to me the person who said it either didn't think or did not understand the word "selfless". Of course somebody named "SpamSandwich" took immediate offense to this because I'm not allowed to ask the question "how is that selfless?" To do so must mean I am an Apple-basher or troll. I'm neither. I'm an AAPL investor.
Now you (and others) take tremendous offense to "If Tim Cook really wished to be good, he would give away all of his money today. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven."
The first half of the statement is true. Cook donating his money now would actually be a legitimate, "selfless" act.
The second half (about the camel and heaven) is what really set most of you off though. You can always tell the liberals because they can't stand the idea of anybody trying to quote Christ where they don't want to see it. Why just LOOK at all the venom and bile that began to spill out after that!
NasserAE came along and said that those words were "criticism" and that it showed a "lack of character". Neither is true.
And to top it off, along comes you. Why don't you tell me who "the truly horrible human beings on this board" are? And do me a favor and quote the person who "mocked and derided Tim Cook for giving money to charity?"
Nobody did. Even NolaMacGuy did not mock or deride Cook. He had what he thought was a legitimate criticism, and most of you attempted to tear him apart for it. Critic? Sure. Troll? Not with this post he wasn't.
Thank you for your eloquently-worded post, echosonic.
Being good is hard. As a Christian, if I were to be truly devout, I believe that I should divest myself of all my worldly goods. And I could, but I won't, because I am weak and full of evil. Even announcing that one is giving money away is not as good as keeping it quiet. If Cook is already quietly giving some away, then I would consider that very good. Ideally, I would give everything away without boasting about it and serve Christ. I probably won't though, which I think is bad and shameful.
I think it would be better of him to give most of it away now, so that good can be done with it more quickly. Goodness, he could give away $990 million and still be left with $10 million. Just think what you could do with that. At any rate, I thought he had far more than that; doesn't he have several billion dollars worth of Apple shares?
You can keep repeating it, but it doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have that amount just sitting in the bank as cash. Most of it is tied up in stocks and options, which have not vested yet.
So you can keep asking him or advising him to donate all his money now, but he CAN NOT!!
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Awesome! Way to go Tim, and great job setting a selfless example for others.
How is it "selfless" to donate your money to charity after you die?
The liberal solution to everything is to give it money because it is all they care about.
Tim Cook has an infinitely better chance of entering "The Kingdom of Heaven" than you. So maybe focus on worrying about your own fate, instead of Cook's.
and with that statement you join the target of your own criticism.
How is it "selfless" to donate your money to charity after you die?
What difference does it make to you?
What difference does it make to you?
Who asked for your opinion?
I find it amazing that you found a way to critize positive article about Tim Cook giving away all his money to charity. This tell us a lot about your lack character
It takes a special kind of person to go out of their way to mock and deride someone for giving money to charity.
Bible (CEB)
Judging
Matthew 7 “Don’t judge, so that you won’t be judged. 2 You’ll receive the same judgment you give. Whatever you deal out will be dealt out to you."
Um, I can tell you some horror stories about Apple products and bugs well within the Steve Jobs era. There were times I thought my Mac 'just didn't work'.
Typical liberal idea of "doing good" which often tends to fall very short of intentions (much shorter than other means of doing good available).
[trashy rant redacted]
If Tim were smart, he'd create a giant incubator for new businesses, and the teaching of business skills and "invention" skills...all for profit, and all subject to the same realities that free-market, for-profit businesses have to deal with.
What I love is that people like you always drop keywords that make it easy for any rational human beings to completely disregard your post and laugh away your credibility. Sure, you may differ idelogically with Cook, but pretending the guy is a moron by the "if Tim were smart" line, and denying his obvious intelligence, makes it clear how childish, shallow, and superficial you actually are.
Who asked for your opinion?
You agreed to the same terms of use I did when I signed up here. You're on a public forum on a privately owned site and subject to the same criticisms as anyone.
How is it "selfless" to donate your money to charity after you die?
What if he could have spent it instead on, say, buying a plot of land and erecting a giant 50-foot statue of himself in gold with an inscription in the base that said "Built the most valuable company on earth"?
Do you think that a donating to charity -- even if after death -- would be a more selfless act?
As for the OP, Apple is hardly coasting as he put it.
Let's be clear here... I'm no Bible scholar, but I was awake during this Bible lesson... This quote was given as analogy to a man who THOUGHT his money could buy his way into Heaven.
I see no moral relevance in the quote to Tim Cook.
What is interesting is that the Bible quote makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Why? Because it is a mistake. The 'so called' perfect manuscript has several typos you know. What does a camel have to do with a needle? Well nothing really. See, in this verse, the word "camel" is actually supposed to be "rope". Then, the sentence makes sense because a rope is just a really fat thread, right? Why did this mistake happen? Because at that time it was common to use camel hair to make ropes and when it was translated the scribe made a mistake, but no one wants to change it because it is the Word of God.
It still doesn't change the intrinsic meaning.
You're splitting hairs. If it did refer to rope, then it would be a literal analogy; rope is hard to thread through a needle, obviously.
But a needle was also a reference to a type of passageway/doorway in towns which was very narrow. It was therefore very hard for a camel to get through them.
If Tim Cook really wished to be good, he would give away all of his money today.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Bible (CEB)
Judging
Matthew 7 “Don’t judge, so that you won’t be judged. 2 You’ll receive the same judgment you give. Whatever you deal out will be dealt out to you."
I'm certainly guilty of judging others and expect to be punished accordingly.
Thank you for reminding me of that excellent biblical passage.
Awesome! Way to go Tim, and great job setting a selfless example for others.
How is it "selfless" to donate your money to charity after you die?
Quite.
It’s hardly a big deal for Tim Cook to give away his money. Anyone with $1 billion would be a fool not to, in order to avoid a huge tax bill. He's hardly going to be on the streets.
I think it would be better of him to give most of it away now, so that good can be done with it more quickly. Goodness, he could give away $990 million and still be left with $10 million. Just think what you could do with that. At any rate, I thought he had far more than that; doesn't he have several billion dollars worth of Apple shares?
The great thing about these threads is exposes the truly horrible human beings on this board. And, not surprisingly, these people tend to be highly correlated with the Apple-bashing trolls (like BF that you quoted, as an obvious example), as if those 2 aspects had something in common. Who would have though. But yeah, it takes a special kind of person to go out of their way to mock and deride someone for giving money to charity.
The really great thing about these threads is that they expose a growing number of people who do not think. They don't think about the words they use or the things they say. They have begun devolving into people who knee-jerk their reactions without any consideration for logic, reason, or rationality. These reactions are almost always some immature emotional response that will take anything that doesn't appear to be "100% SUPPORT" and view it as if it is "100% criticism."
You and several others are guilty.
The first mindless comment posted was "Way to go Tim, and great job setting a selfless example for others."
There is nothing "selfless" about donating your wealth to charity after your death. It isn't actually a personal sacrifice at all. I didn't criticize Cook for his decision, but I did ask "how is that "selfless?" because it appeared to me the person who said it either didn't think or did not understand the word "selfless". Of course somebody named "SpamSandwich" took immediate offense to this because I'm not allowed to ask the question "how is that selfless?" To do so must mean I am an Apple-basher or troll. I'm neither. I'm an AAPL investor.
Now you (and others) take tremendous offense to "If Tim Cook really wished to be good, he would give away all of his money today. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven."
The first half of the statement is true. Cook donating his money now would actually be a legitimate, "selfless" act.
The second half (about the camel and heaven) is what really set most of you off though. You can always tell the liberals because they can't stand the idea of anybody trying to quote Christ where they don't want to see it. Why just LOOK at all the venom and bile that began to spill out after that!
NasserAE came along and said that those words were "criticism" and that it showed a "lack of character". Neither is true.
And to top it off, along comes you. Why don't you tell me who "the truly horrible human beings on this board" are? And do me a favor and quote the person who "mocked and derided Tim Cook for giving money to charity?"
Nobody did. Even NolaMacGuy did not mock or deride Cook. He had what he thought was a legitimate criticism, and most of you attempted to tear him apart for it. Critic? Sure. Troll? Not with this post he wasn't.
Based on that one response, you've not only proven you're a useless troll amongst the many now infesting this place, but have less intelligence and experience than Slurpy has in his pinky, congrats.
Troll? Not likely. My thousands of shares of APPL says otherwise. Carry on.
Its probably easier to call somebody a troll for pointing out the truth than it is to admit you weren't thinking rationally.
The great thing about these threads is exposes the truly horrible human beings on this board. And, not surprisingly, these people tend to be highly correlated with the Apple-bashing trolls (like BF that you quoted, as an obvious example), as if those 2 aspects had something in common. Who would have though. But yeah, it takes a special kind of person to go out of their way to mock and deride someone for giving money to charity.
The really great thing about these threads is that they expose a growing number of people who do not think. They don't think about the words they use or the things they say. They have begun devolving into people who knee-jerk their reactions without any consideration for logic, reason, or rationality. These reactions are almost always some immature emotional response that will take anything that doesn't appear to be "100% SUPPORT" and view it as if it is "100% criticism."
You and several others are guilty.
The first mindless comment posted was "Way to go Tim, and great job setting a selfless example for others."
There is nothing "selfless" about donating your wealth to charity after your death. It isn't actually a personal sacrifice at all. I didn't criticize Cook for his decision, but I did ask "how is that "selfless?" because it appeared to me the person who said it either didn't think or did not understand the word "selfless". Of course somebody named "SpamSandwich" took immediate offense to this because I'm not allowed to ask the question "how is that selfless?" To do so must mean I am an Apple-basher or troll. I'm neither. I'm an AAPL investor.
Now you (and others) take tremendous offense to "If Tim Cook really wished to be good, he would give away all of his money today. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven."
The first half of the statement is true. Cook donating his money now would actually be a legitimate, "selfless" act.
The second half (about the camel and heaven) is what really set most of you off though. You can always tell the liberals because they can't stand the idea of anybody trying to quote Christ where they don't want to see it. Why just LOOK at all the venom and bile that began to spill out after that!
NasserAE came along and said that those words were "criticism" and that it showed a "lack of character". Neither is true.
And to top it off, along comes you. Why don't you tell me who "the truly horrible human beings on this board" are? And do me a favor and quote the person who "mocked and derided Tim Cook for giving money to charity?"
Nobody did. Even NolaMacGuy did not mock or deride Cook. He had what he thought was a legitimate criticism, and most of you attempted to tear him apart for it. Critic? Sure. Troll? Not with this post he wasn't.
Thank you for your eloquently-worded post, echosonic.
Being good is hard. As a Christian, if I were to be truly devout, I believe that I should divest myself of all my worldly goods. And I could, but I won't, because I am weak and full of evil. Even announcing that one is giving money away is not as good as keeping it quiet. If Cook is already quietly giving some away, then I would consider that very good. Ideally, I would give everything away without boasting about it and serve Christ. I probably won't though, which I think is bad and shameful.
I think it would be better of him to give most of it away now, so that good can be done with it more quickly. Goodness, he could give away $990 million and still be left with $10 million. Just think what you could do with that. At any rate, I thought he had far more than that; doesn't he have several billion dollars worth of Apple shares?
You can keep repeating it, but it doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have that amount just sitting in the bank as cash. Most of it is tied up in stocks and options, which have not vested yet.
So you can keep asking him or advising him to donate all his money now, but he CAN NOT!!