Apple's Tim Cook plans to give away all of his money

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  • Reply 81 of 111

    I'm certainly guilty of judging others and expect to be punished accordingly.

    Thank you for reminding me of that excellent biblical passage.

    Ya, not a problem. And confessing you're wrong isn't necessarily a positive thing unless there's an apology included. But, if you want to speak your mind that's fine. Here's the rest of the scripture...

    Matthew 7:3 "Why do you see the splinter that’s in your brother’s or sister’s eye, but don’t notice the log in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother or sister, ‘Let me take the splinter out of your eye,’ when there’s a log in your eye? 5 You deceive yourself! First take the log out of your eye, and then you’ll see clearly to take the splinter out of your brother’s or sister’s eye. 6 Don’t give holy things to dogs, and don’t throw your pearls in front of pigs. They will stomp on the pearls, then turn around and attack you."
  • Reply 82 of 111
    iaeeniaeen Posts: 588member
    echosonic wrote: »

    The really great thing about these threads is that they expose a growing number of people who do not think.  They don't think about the words they use or the things they say.  They have begun devolving into people who knee-jerk their reactions without any consideration for logic, reason, or rationality.  These reactions are almost always some immature emotional response that will take anything that doesn't appear to be "100% SUPPORT" and view it as if it is "100% criticism."


    You and several others are guilty.


    The first mindless comment posted was "Way to go Tim, and great job setting a selfless example for others."

    There is nothing "selfless" about donating your wealth to charity after your death.  It isn't actually a personal sacrifice at all.  I didn't criticize Cook for his decision, but I did ask "how is that "selfless?" because it appeared to me the person who said it either didn't think or did not understand the word "selfless".  Of course somebody named "SpamSandwich" took immediate offense to this because I'm not allowed to ask the question "how is that selfless?"  To do so must mean I am an Apple-basher or troll.  I'm neither.  I'm an AAPL investor.


    Now you (and others) take tremendous offense to "
    <span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:1.4em;">If Tim Cook really wished to be good, he would give away all of his money today.  It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven."


    The first half of the statement is true.  Cook donating his money now would actually be a legitimate, "selfless" act.  


    The second half (about the camel and heaven) is what really set most of you off though.  You can always tell the liberals because they can't stand the idea of anybody trying to quote Christ where they don't want to see it.  </span>
    Why just LOOK at all the venom and bile that began to spill out after that!

    <span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:1.4em;">NasserAE came along and said that those words were "criticism" and that it showed a "lack of character".  Neither is true.  


    And to top it off, along comes you.  Why don't you tell me who "</span>
    the truly horrible human beings on this board" are?  And do me a favor and quote the person who "mocked and derided Tim Cook for giving money to charity?"

    <span style="color:rgb(24,24,24);line-height:1.4em;">Nobody did.  Even NolaMacGuy did not mock or deride Cook.  He had what he thought was a legitimate criticism, and most of you attempted to tear him apart for it.  Critic?  Sure.  Troll?  Not with this post he wasn't.</span>

    Firstly, in order to donate his money before his death (which is what the article said his plans actually are), that requires he not spend it now. Granted, he has so much he would be hard pressed to spend it all, but nonetheless all evidence points to him living a relatively modest life. We can argue about the philosophical definition of "selfless" all you like, but I don't see any reason to believe this isn't done out of kindness and a desire to make the world a better place.

    Let's be clear, I don't think Cook is the embodiment of all moral virtue, but I do think that when you consider everything he does, it is entirely reasonable to come to the conclusion that he is a very decent person.

    For a person like BF to drag The Sacred Scriptures down, twist them, and use them for that purpose is one of the most offensive things I have ever encountered on the Internet. Whatever Frost believes, it is not any form of intellectually honest Christianity, and all he is doing is giving fuel the those who already hate us (and I'm fairly sure he realizes this).
  • Reply 83 of 111
    xixoxixo Posts: 451member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bkerkay View Post

     

     

    You can keep repeating it, but it doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have that amount just sitting in the bank as cash.  Most of it is tied up in stocks and options, which have not vested yet. 

     

    So you can keep asking him or advising him to donate all his money now, but he CAN NOT!!


     

    payday loans?

  • Reply 84 of 111
    xixoxixo Posts: 451member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iaeen View Post



    For a person like BF to drag The Sacred Scriptures down, twist them, and use them for that purpose is one of the most offensive things I have ever encountered on the Internet.

     

    you forgot the /s tag.

     

    Y'all get all wound up by Ben's posts, but there's a mute button.

     

  • Reply 85 of 111
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    xixo wrote: »
    Y'all get all wound up by Ben's posts, but there's a mute button.

    There is, but everyone has to use it for it to work.
  • Reply 86 of 111
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    There is, but everyone has to use it for it to work.

     

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  • Reply 87 of 111
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,388member
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  • Reply 88 of 111
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    mstone wrote: »
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  • Reply 89 of 111
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    [quote name="SolipsismY" url="/t/185450/apples-tim-cook-plans-to-give-away-all-of-his-money/40#post_2699820"][QUOTE='mstone']This script hides all the nested comments. See code block below.

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  • Reply 90 of 111
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    1) Did you write this?



    2) Is it possible to have it check for various names that we can add to a list? For instance, something like,

    Code:

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    Yes I wrote it years ago when I was pissed off at T.

     

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  • Reply 91 of 111
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    mstone wrote: »
    Yes I wrote it years ago when I was pissed off at T.

    Sure the code could be modified to include multiple users as you indicated but to have it display the 'nic'  it would need a multidimensional array. I'll think about it and update it when I get a chance.

    No worries. I've gotten good at ignoring the common troublemakers.
  • Reply 92 of 111
    wigbywigby Posts: 692member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post





    Who are you to say when and to whom Cook should give his money away?



    They are quoting the bible so that gives them the right to judge anyone and make silly statements that mean nothing to real living people.

  • Reply 93 of 111
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    No worries. I've gotten good at ignoring the common troublemakers.

    Updated the original post with new code for multiple users.

  • Reply 94 of 111
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    wigby wrote: »

    They are quoting the bible so that gives them the right to judge anyone and make silly statements that mean nothing to real living people.

    I wonder if the Bible says anything about those that feel inadequate trash talking those who are doing good for society. If there is such scripture, they don't seem to know it.
  • Reply 95 of 111
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    I wonder if the Bible says anything about those that feel inadequate trash talking those who are doing good for society. If there is such scripture, they don't seem to know it.

    I don't think there is one quite like that but there is this:

     

    Quote:


     Matthew 7:5


     


    Hypocrite! First cast out the plank from your eye, and then you will see to cast out the chip from your brother's eye.


  • Reply 96 of 111
    wigbywigby Posts: 692member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    I wonder if the Bible says anything about those that feel inadequate trash talking those who are doing good for society. If there is such scripture, they don't seem to know it.



    You should try reading it sometime. I have from cover to cover. It gives you license to judge and condemn without knowing anything. How freeing!

  • Reply 97 of 111
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    mstone wrote: »
    [UPDATED for multiple users]

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    1) Open a text editor, paste in the Javascript code and then save the file for later use.

    2) In Safari press Command+d to create a bookmark.

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    4) Right click on your newly created bookmark and select "Edit Address".

    5) Paste in the javascript code.

    6) Revisit the page with the offending comments and click your bookmarklet. Presto, gone!




    Note: See the first three var declarations in the code. The 'assArray' holds the list of user names, the 'uidArray' holds the corresponding list of user ids so if you wanted to add another user to block, to get the user id  you would hover over the user's name in the comment and observe the id number in the status bar at the bottom of your browser. The 'nicArray' value holds nicknames and can be anything you want, in this case the first index is 'BF' for obvious reasons.

    Man -- if this isn't evidemce to AI that their site should do this already (block quotes for users on your blocked list) then I don't know what is! Melgross? Can this be submitted as a site feature request?
  • Reply 98 of 111
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    appleempl wrote: »
    I worked in QA on the Mac side for 20 years (retired now), and I noticed the drop in quality occur when QA team's size were reduced and more automation testing was implemented over manual testing. I'm talking about specifically Mac OS and Mac hardware. Actually that started under Steve Jobs watch, but has continued since Cook took the helm.

    Couldn't possibly be because the devices and software a million times more complex than back in your day, and used by a billion time more people, could it?

    Correlation does imply causation.
  • Reply 99 of 111
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    xixo wrote: »
    Y'all get all wound up by Ben's posts, but there's a mute button.
    I call mine "ignore", or sometimes if I forget to ignore, "self control."

    The biblical nature of this thread reminds me of a related event in my youth:

    I was attending a Summer educational program which sought to expose teenagers to philosophy and psychology courses not normally offered during the regular curriculum. The philosophy class explored a pretty basic question -- 'what if there were no God'. Not that there was no God, but, what if? Well there was a girl in the class who told her parents, and they brought a complaint against the program. The dean told them that they would not change the curriculum, and attendance was mandatory, so the only recourse was for them to withdraw their daughter from attendance. Even though this was an affront to their Christian beliefs and religion, the program was prestigious and would look good on their daughters resume for college application. The solution they found for her was to attend the philosophy class, place a bible on her desk, and not participate in the proceedings. It worked. She knew nothing about philosophy after that class, nor any opposing points of view which could otherwise challenge her faith, and she got to keep the program on her resume.
  • Reply 100 of 111
    nkalunkalu Posts: 315member
    great idea Tim Cook. Before doing that, would you consider helping with my student loan?
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