Apple already allows sex (both gay and straight), fetish and dating apps on their platform.
Yes I know. But there are some silly restrictions, like how sexually suggestive a members primary profile pic is on them. Explicit photos are rejected, and the criteria is quite stringent, in that the photo can't even hint at sex. A girlfriends bathing suit photo was cropped so that it suggested she was naked from the waist down, despite wearing a bikini top, so the photo was not allowed. When she cropped it to reveal the bikini bottoms, they permitted the photo.
That's why I say that this might explain how Apple can allow sexual content within an HBO show, as long as it's not explicit on the initial presentation of the app. The dating apps allow a user to post non-public photos that can be explicit as they want, just not the profile picture, and from what I've seen, they seem to be quite serious about it for fear Apple will pull their app.
First and foremost Apple's TV is obviously a different product than an iPod, iPad and iPhone and is meant for in home entertainment hooked up to a TV. I believe the reason apple doesn't allow porn related apps is because iPod, iPad & iPhone are mobile devices that makes it possible to view porn at anytime, anywhere and due to this they are extremely protective of their image in the public eye. Their stance in this matter more than likely is about "hey look, these devices are way too visible amongst the public for us to allow you to develop and distribute porn apps. We are viewed as an classy brand and having these device owners running around viewing porn in an possibly indiscretious indiscriminating manner is an PR nightmare we cant afford to risk experiencing. Additionally we all know that anyone that's into the creation and distribution of porn are morally corrupt untrustworthy individuals so we wouldn't doubt for a second that hidden codes wouldn't be inserted into these apps to conduct fraudulent activities or steal personal info just like all internet based porn websites are rigged or hack to do.
This article appears to be based on either an foolish, pretentious or narrow minded thought process. First and foremost Apple's TV is obviously a different product than an iPod, iPad and iPhone and is meant for in home entertainment hooked up to a TV. I believe the reason apple doesn't allow porn related apps is because iPod, iPad & iPhone are mobile devices that makes it possible to view porn at anytime, anywhere and due to this they are extremely protective of their image in the public eye. Their stance in this matter more than likely is about "hey look, these devices are way too visible amongst the public for us to allow you to develop and distribute porn apps. We are viewed as an classy brand and having these device owners running around viewing porn in an possibly indiscretious indiscriminating manner is an PR nightmare we cant afford to risk experiencing. Additionally we all know that anyone that's into the creation and distribution of porn are morally corrupt untrustworthy individuals so we wouldn't doubt for a second that hidden codes wouldn't be inserted into these apps to conduct fraudulent activities or steal personal info just like all internet based porn websites are rigged or hack to do.
Surely it would be an opinion if it was saying something that couldn't be proven logically. Hypocrisy is being selective in your rules where you apply them in some cases but not others. That's demonstrable here so is not an opinion.
Apple removed 500px for pornographic images, this is a photo browser just as Safari is a web page browser:
In that case 500px hosts the content, Safari doesn't. In this case HBO also hosts the content.
As for what constitutes porn, it's sexual imagery for the purposes of arousal. Game of Thrones isn't primarily erotica but it's also not suitable for children as it has pornographic scenes and I doubt people would defend the emotional/artistic merits of Stacked Racks from Mars. It's clearly intended as a piece of erotic media even if it's not hardcore. Porn can be softcore, that's why there's a category called softcore porn.
You have to think from the point of view of someone subscribing to HBO and letting their kids watch some shows on their iPad and then they tap over to see Erika and Christie engaging in some mission debriefing (if they can make it past the terrible acting):
[VIDEO]
I don't think banning the media is necessary in all cases but it should be hidden behind an authentication. They have fingerprint id on iOS devices, they can setup a special thumb print that requires a credit card verification and this thumb print is then setup as an adult. Any time someone wants to view adult content or apps, they simply touch the thumb on the button. The button can probably tell the rough age from the shape of the print.
They'd have an API for channels and inside apps and 3rd parties just tag items to request verification before accessing. This would then stay active as long as the device is in the same mode. In the App Store, Apple would hide all adult content behind a similar verification. If developers want unrestricted viewing then developers have to remove the explicit content. That's what happens with video games. Games like Manhunt got an AO (adults only) rating so they removed some of the content to get a more relaxed rating. Kids shouldn't be browsing Kama Sutra apps and sex apps on the store that they are now.
Apple takes extreme action over trivial things like showing picture of guns in screenshots, making developers censor their images but flip over to HBO and you can watch people being violently murdered. Apple loves adding APIs, they put hundreds of them in every year, it should be easy to add one for age verification. There's obviously going to be explicit content they don't want to host and they are still free to deny that as it's their store but there should be more consistency with the content they approve of regardless of the format it's presented in.
You have to think from the point of view of someone subscribing to HBO and letting their kids watch some shows on their iPad and then they tap over to see Erika and Christie engaging in some mission debriefing (if they can make it past the terrible acting):
Agreed. Any kid with a Apple device has access to the App store. Not every kid will have access to HBO Go. Not only that, HBO doesn't really air porn. This Editorial is comparing apples to oranges.
This article appears to be based on either an foolish, pretentious or narrow minded thought process. First and foremost Apple's TV is obviously a different product than an iPod, iPad and iPhone and is meant for in home entertainment hooked up to a TV. I believe the reason apple doesn't allow porn related apps is because iPod, iPad & iPhone are mobile devices that makes it possible to view porn at anytime, anywhere and due to this they are extremely protective of their image in the public eye. Their stance in this matter more than likely is about "hey look, these devices are way too visible amongst the public for us to allow you to develop and distribute porn apps. We are viewed as an classy brand and having these device owners running around viewing porn in an possibly indiscretious indiscriminating manner is an PR nightmare we cant afford to risk experiencing. Additionally we all know that anyone that's into the creation and distribution of porn are morally corrupt untrustworthy individuals so we wouldn't doubt for a second that hidden codes wouldn't be inserted into these apps to conduct fraudulent activities or steal personal info just like all internet based porn websites are rigged or hack to do.
Even with HBO Apple still has a long way to go to catch up with Roku when it comes to "Porn"
Just google Adult Roku and you will see there are so many ways to watch full HD XXX content on Roku. The Apple TV would be the last device you would ever need for watching Porn. 8-) lol
The porn channels on the Roku aren't in the channel store. You first have to find a code for the channel either on the the specific website, or on a channel list, then you have to sign on your Roku account on a computer to activate the channel. Some channels have a misleading icon. I have one single porn channel, and it's labeled 'spreadsheet tutorials', and in order to open it one needs to input a 4 digit password.
Surely it would be an opinion if it was saying something that couldn't be proven logically...As for what constitutes porn, it's sexual imagery for the purposes of arousal..
This is not a current definition of pornography but uses "opinion" as fact. The U.S. Supreme Court last gave a definition on a ruling in 1973 which defines pornography:
1. The average person, applying local community standards, looking at the work in its entirety, must find that it appeals to the prurient interest.
2. The work must describe or depict, in an obviously offensive way, sexual conduct, or excretory functions.
3. The work as a whole must lack "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific values".
Again, everyone is entitled to their Opinion about what should be censored, and that probably would vary from a person and their neighbor, relative or even significant other, but Opinions don't alter the facts. if people don't agree with the law then there are processes in place to affect change.
MPAA Film Ratings meet Supreme Court guidelines for pornography; you know when you see it, and provides ratings for same. Pretty sure that MPAA gives an automatic X rating if there is unsimulated sex. Either way, MPAA is curating the film industry, not Apple, and HlBO surely is curating its HBO NOW available on iTunes Store. There is wide public acceptance of the MPAA. Buy it, don't buy it.
Apple's decision is that they don't want to be in the business of curating content on Apps. It's pass/fail to Apple's standard. I would suggest that apps such as Netflix have wide public acceptance, brands even, curating their own content, as do Showtime, Cinemax, and others, so Apple doesn't have to curate for them.
As there are other venues for watching actual pornography on iDevices, I don't see why Apple is faulted for having an extremely tight standard; no pornography in apps, and their definition of pornography is pretty definitive. If that is hypocrisy to some, then there are a world of other ecosystems that might be more to your liking.
This is a fricking drive by diary BTW. I would expect it of BGR.
Here's a tip; watch Garfunkel and Oates on Netflix. They have a very insightful, sarcastic, and funny take on all this culture crap.
"I wouldn't touch your dick if I'd been poisoned / And the antidote was in your sperm"
Well, there is no 'X' rating, and hasn't been one for quite a long time. Just wanted to point that out. NC-17 is the rating that replaced it, and it has some different definitions. You also have films which are not submitted for classification, and those will generally have a very small distribution, since practically every theater these days is part of a chain, and chains won't distributed unrated films. However, I'm fairly sure that "Nymphomaniac" was unrated, or at least an unrated version was shown in places. But I've only seen it on disc, so I can't really comment about the different theatrical versions, assuming there were different ones.
Playboy doesn't really feature porn, it's just nudity and it's not allowed. That's what it comes down to:
Why can HBO allow users to watch very explicit sex scenes but Playboy can't allow people to look at basic nudity?
I won't link directly to the pages but Google for "Stacked Racks from Mars nudity" and click through to some of the scenes. It's very clearly pornography but these are usually just shot in a way to cover up the hardcore parts.
Surely it would be an opinion if it was saying something that couldn't be proven logically...As for what constitutes porn, it's sexual imagery for the purposes of arousal..
This is not a current definition of pornography but uses "opinion" as fact. The U.S. Supreme Court last gave a definition on a ruling in 1973 which defines pornography:
1. The average person, applying local community standards, looking at the work in its entirety, must find that it appeals to the prurient interest.
2. The work must describe or depict, in an obviously offensive way, sexual conduct, or excretory functions.
3. The work as a whole must lack "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific values".
Again, everyone is entitled to their Opinion about what should be censored, and that probably would vary from a person and their neighbor, relative or even significant other, but Opinions don't alter the facts. if people don't agree with the law then there are processes in place to affect change.
The definition for porn you provided is the same as the one I provided. Use the Google search and have a look at the scenes.
There’s plenty wrong with porn. First and foremost is that the vast majority of porn denigrates women, turning them into sex objects whose sole purpose is to service men, depicting women being humiliated and subjected to all manner of degradation. The there’s the matter of young males watching porn and being taught that ejaculating in a female’s face while yanking her by her hair is the norm for a loving sexual relationship.
Oh yes, there’s a lot wrong with porn and I don’t find Apple’s policies to be a double standard at all.
Well, here's the thing about these anti-porn rants: By implication, any world with little or no mass-distributed porn should be better off, right? Do you think that's the case now? Do you think that was the case centuries ago? Do you think Angela Ahrendts or Hilary Clinton would rather this were 14th century?
Mass-distributed porn is a relatively recent development. Serial killers aren't. Neither is the mistreatment of women. So linking those things and porn is a fairly dubious concept.
Sorry you can't get your porn. I'm glad that my kids can't stream that crap which exploits women and demeans sexuality. I am close to deleting this app, which I've used as a daily source of news for several years.
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That's why I say that this might explain how Apple can allow sexual content within an HBO show, as long as it's not explicit on the initial presentation of the app. The dating apps allow a user to post non-public photos that can be explicit as they want, just not the profile picture, and from what I've seen, they seem to be quite serious about it for fear Apple will pull their app.
Neither Apple nor HBO has any "Porn" content. Get a clue...
Their stance in this matter more than likely is about "hey look, these devices are way too visible amongst the public for us to allow you to develop and distribute porn apps. We are viewed as an classy brand and having these device owners running around viewing porn in an possibly indiscretious indiscriminating manner is an PR nightmare we cant afford to risk experiencing. Additionally we all know that anyone that's into the creation and distribution of porn are morally corrupt untrustworthy individuals so we wouldn't doubt for a second that hidden codes wouldn't be inserted into these apps to conduct fraudulent activities or steal personal info just like all internet based porn websites are rigged or hack to do.
an foolish, pretentious or narrow minded thought process.
First and foremost Apple's TV is obviously a different product than an iPod, iPad and iPhone and is meant for in home entertainment hooked up to a TV. I believe the reason apple doesn't allow porn related apps is because iPod, iPad & iPhone are mobile devices that makes it possible to view porn at anytime, anywhere and due to this they are extremely protective of their image in the public eye.
Their stance in this matter more than likely is about "hey look, these devices are way too visible amongst the public for us to allow you to develop and distribute porn apps. We are viewed as an classy brand and having these device owners running around viewing porn in an possibly indiscretious indiscriminating manner is an PR nightmare we cant afford to risk experiencing. Additionally we all know that anyone that's into the creation and distribution of porn are morally corrupt untrustworthy individuals so we wouldn't doubt for a second that hidden codes wouldn't be inserted into these apps to conduct fraudulent activities or steal personal info just like all internet based porn websites are rigged or hack to do.
ho hum.
Surely it would be an opinion if it was saying something that couldn't be proven logically. Hypocrisy is being selective in your rules where you apply them in some cases but not others. That's demonstrable here so is not an opinion.
Apple removed 500px for pornographic images, this is a photo browser just as Safari is a web page browser:
http://www.slashgear.com/apple-pulls-500px-apps-from-app-store-due-to-nude-photo-search-ability-22266320/
In that case 500px hosts the content, Safari doesn't. In this case HBO also hosts the content.
As for what constitutes porn, it's sexual imagery for the purposes of arousal. Game of Thrones isn't primarily erotica but it's also not suitable for children as it has pornographic scenes and I doubt people would defend the emotional/artistic merits of Stacked Racks from Mars. It's clearly intended as a piece of erotic media even if it's not hardcore. Porn can be softcore, that's why there's a category called softcore porn.
You have to think from the point of view of someone subscribing to HBO and letting their kids watch some shows on their iPad and then they tap over to see Erika and Christie engaging in some mission debriefing (if they can make it past the terrible acting):
[VIDEO]
I don't think banning the media is necessary in all cases but it should be hidden behind an authentication. They have fingerprint id on iOS devices, they can setup a special thumb print that requires a credit card verification and this thumb print is then setup as an adult. Any time someone wants to view adult content or apps, they simply touch the thumb on the button. The button can probably tell the rough age from the shape of the print.
They'd have an API for channels and inside apps and 3rd parties just tag items to request verification before accessing. This would then stay active as long as the device is in the same mode. In the App Store, Apple would hide all adult content behind a similar verification. If developers want unrestricted viewing then developers have to remove the explicit content. That's what happens with video games. Games like Manhunt got an AO (adults only) rating so they removed some of the content to get a more relaxed rating. Kids shouldn't be browsing Kama Sutra apps and sex apps on the store that they are now.
Apple takes extreme action over trivial things like showing picture of guns in screenshots, making developers censor their images but flip over to HBO and you can watch people being violently murdered. Apple loves adding APIs, they put hundreds of them in every year, it should be easy to add one for age verification. There's obviously going to be explicit content they don't want to host and they are still free to deny that as it's their store but there should be more consistency with the content they approve of regardless of the format it's presented in.
There's a Paental Control Setting in the app.
Don't care, I could already watch all types of porn on all of my Apple products.
When the hell will I be able to watch it on my watch?
Agreed. Any kid with a Apple device has access to the App store. Not every kid will have access to HBO Go. Not only that, HBO doesn't really air porn. This Editorial is comparing apples to oranges.
an foolish, pretentious or narrow minded thought process.
First and foremost Apple's TV is obviously a different product than an iPod, iPad and iPhone and is meant for in home entertainment hooked up to a TV. I believe the reason apple doesn't allow porn related apps is because iPod, iPad & iPhone are mobile devices that makes it possible to view porn at anytime, anywhere and due to this they are extremely protective of their image in the public eye.
Their stance in this matter more than likely is about "hey look, these devices are way too visible amongst the public for us to allow you to develop and distribute porn apps. We are viewed as an classy brand and having these device owners running around viewing porn in an possibly indiscretious indiscriminating manner is an PR nightmare we cant afford to risk experiencing. Additionally we all know that anyone that's into the creation and distribution of porn are morally corrupt untrustworthy individuals so we wouldn't doubt for a second that hidden codes wouldn't be inserted into these apps to conduct fraudulent activities or steal personal info just like all internet based porn websites are rigged or hack to do.
The porn channels on the Roku aren't in the channel store. You first have to find a code for the channel either on the the specific website, or on a channel list, then you have to sign on your Roku account on a computer to activate the channel. Some channels have a misleading icon. I have one single porn channel, and it's labeled 'spreadsheet tutorials', and in order to open it one needs to input a 4 digit password.
Through the lens of "business", there is absolutely no hypocrisy.
This is not a current definition of pornography but uses "opinion" as fact. The U.S. Supreme Court last gave a definition on a ruling in 1973 which defines pornography:
1. The average person, applying local community standards, looking at the work in its entirety, must find that it appeals to the prurient interest.
2. The work must describe or depict, in an obviously offensive way, sexual conduct, or excretory functions.
3. The work as a whole must lack "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific values".
Again, everyone is entitled to their Opinion about what should be censored, and that probably would vary from a person and their neighbor, relative or even significant other, but Opinions don't alter the facts. if people don't agree with the law then there are processes in place to affect change.
MPAA Film Ratings meet Supreme Court guidelines for pornography; you know when you see it, and provides ratings for same. Pretty sure that MPAA gives an automatic X rating if there is unsimulated sex. Either way, MPAA is curating the film industry, not Apple, and HlBO surely is curating its HBO NOW available on iTunes Store. There is wide public acceptance of the MPAA. Buy it, don't buy it.
Apple's decision is that they don't want to be in the business of curating content on Apps. It's pass/fail to Apple's standard. I would suggest that apps such as Netflix have wide public acceptance, brands even, curating their own content, as do Showtime, Cinemax, and others, so Apple doesn't have to curate for them.
As there are other venues for watching actual pornography on iDevices, I don't see why Apple is faulted for having an extremely tight standard; no pornography in apps, and their definition of pornography is pretty definitive. If that is hypocrisy to some, then there are a world of other ecosystems that might be more to your liking.
This is a fricking drive by diary BTW. I would expect it of BGR.
Here's a tip; watch Garfunkel and Oates on Netflix. They have a very insightful, sarcastic, and funny take on all this culture crap.
"I wouldn't touch your dick if I'd been poisoned / And the antidote was in your sperm"
Well, there is no 'X' rating, and hasn't been one for quite a long time. Just wanted to point that out. NC-17 is the rating that replaced it, and it has some different definitions. You also have films which are not submitted for classification, and those will generally have a very small distribution, since practically every theater these days is part of a chain, and chains won't distributed unrated films. However, I'm fairly sure that "Nymphomaniac" was unrated, or at least an unrated version was shown in places. But I've only seen it on disc, so I can't really comment about the different theatrical versions, assuming there were different ones.
Careful, it might mess with your step count. I guess it counts as a workout though. Maybe they should add a 4th loop for that.
Playboy doesn't really feature porn, it's just nudity and it's not allowed. That's what it comes down to:
Why can HBO allow users to watch very explicit sex scenes but Playboy can't allow people to look at basic nudity?
I won't link directly to the pages but Google for "Stacked Racks from Mars nudity" and click through to some of the scenes. It's very clearly pornography but these are usually just shot in a way to cover up the hardcore parts.
The definition for porn you provided is the same as the one I provided. Use the Google search and have a look at the scenes.
There’s plenty wrong with porn. First and foremost is that the vast majority of porn denigrates women, turning them into sex objects whose sole purpose is to service men, depicting women being humiliated and subjected to all manner of degradation. The there’s the matter of young males watching porn and being taught that ejaculating in a female’s face while yanking her by her hair is the norm for a loving sexual relationship.
Oh yes, there’s a lot wrong with porn and I don’t find Apple’s policies to be a double standard at all.
Well, here's the thing about these anti-porn rants: By implication, any world with little or no mass-distributed porn should be better off, right? Do you think that's the case now? Do you think that was the case centuries ago? Do you think Angela Ahrendts or Hilary Clinton would rather this were 14th century?
Mass-distributed porn is a relatively recent development. Serial killers aren't. Neither is the mistreatment of women. So linking those things and porn is a fairly dubious concept.
They're the same thing,
????
LOL. But children are probably more open minded about sex and porn...
Does this mean no Game of Thrones? Boobs and sex everywhere.
Really? Maybe I should start watching that show. I always thought it was a second rate Lord of the Rings.