I don't think that I've ever gotten a "try again" when using Touch ID.
I would be ok with having Touch ID on a gun. It would be a great feature to have, and what if some criminal were to steal your gun or take it away from you in a struggle? You would be safe, because they wouldn't be able to fire the gun. It would be great for police officers to have, and they would never have to worry about any criminal taking their gun ever again.
The advantages gained from having Touch ID on a gun far outweighs the small disadvantage of having a 1 second delay to unlock the gun.
Can you imagine the amount of lives saved by Touch ID on a gun?
Some 2 year old kid blew their brains out because they found a gun that their idiot parent left around the house? No problem with Touch ID.
Hell, if I had an Apple gun with Touch ID, I could just leave it right on the livingroom table, just like I do with my iPad, and I wouldn't have to worry about anybody gaining unauthorized access to my things.
I suggest you inform yourself about firearrms, self defense, etc. Maybe take some training classes and read up on the (sorry) state of so-called smart weapons.
And btw, I get about 85-95% success with Touch ID. I'll go for weeks with no problem, and then, like this last week, will have lots of problems for no reason, and then it fixes it self somehow and starts to work again pretty flawlessly. Also, if my fingers are wet, like right after a shower or swim, or have glue on them after a session in my wood shop, TouchID has issues... Overall I am quite pleased with it for my phone. For a self defense or hunting weapon, not so much. Milli seconds count and TouchID is not up to the job. Trust me, or go do the research I suggested and take the classes I suggested.
But just like Apple products have always been featured on tv, without Apple paying off the networks, celebs weren't privileged with previews or free products.
If they wanted one, they had to go out themselves and buy it, just like everyone else. (Or ok, send an assistant to stand in line.)
No early access, no freebies just for being a member of the glitterati, or somehow related to our vapid nobility.
But they used Apple products regardless, because they were awesome. And because they were cool. And the fact that Apple didn't have to pay them or give them special privileges like everybody else, made them just a touch cooler than everybody else. A bit more authentic.
And now we get this... Celebrity selfies, execs posing with the few glamorous enough to get a freebie, to artificially make it cool?
I know all the arguments: Its a new kind of product, you can't market it like normal. But the iPhone and the iPad were also "a new kind of product" and Apple didn't have to stoop to this.
I dunno, it just doesn't seem right. I know it's not Steve Jobs Apple anymore... (question is: Is it Tim Cooks Apple? Or something pushed by Ive and Angela Ahrendts that he had to give reluctant approval to...)
And everything changes over time, but this is just so Un-Apple. And reminds me of the Google Glass introduction.
iPhone and iPad are utility products.
Watches are fashion accessories, much more so than phones. Although it looks like Apple is augmenting the watch with functionality now. i.e., It's a wrist computer _and_ a fashion item. The Watch didn't appear in a recent luxury watch trade show. Instead it appears in this design show, which suggests to me that Apple sees it as a "different kind of watch". However, it's not merely a new product. Angela Ahrendt mentioned that it's an entirely new category.
Celebrity endorsement is one very small part of the marketing. The entire thinking includes more flexible logistics, expanded channels (e.g., new stores in high street market), new product development capabilities (e.g., more advanced metallurgy, more advanced healthcare solutions). So yes it is naturally different from Apple's past work. They are gaining new power and new market(s).
Does this mean Apple has changed completely ? Yes and no. There are new found capabilities, and expanded channels. They can now make specific technologies like Taptic Engine, OLED, in small volume for the Watch first, before adding them to iPhones/iPads *if* so desired. But fundamentally where iPad, iPhone and Macs are concerned, they are still the same mass market machinery we know and love so far.
The Watch is just a new product line for them. Similar to how Beat headphones is a separate product line, with heavy celeb endorsement, which overtook the declining iPod in mindshare as the latter got subsumed by iPhone.
If you take a step back, they are still dwarfed by their existing bread and butter businesses.
I suggest you inform yourself about firearrms, self defense, etc. Maybe take some training classes and read up on the (sorry) state of so-called smart weapons.
And btw, I get about 85-95% success with Touch ID. I'll go for weeks with no problem, and then, like this last week, will have lots of problems for no reason, and then it fixes it self somehow and starts to work again pretty flawlessly. Also, if my fingers are wet, like right after a shower or swim, or have glue on them after a session in my wood shop, TouchID has issues... Overall I am quite pleased with it for my phone. For a self defense or hunting weapon, not so much. Milli seconds count and TouchID is not up to the job. Trust me, or go do the research I suggested and take the classes I suggested.
I admitedly don't know much about smart weapons or guns at all, but there's no need for me to take any training classes, because guns are incredibly hard to get a license for where I currently am located.
I've shot off a few guns before when on vacation to different states, like shotguns, handguns and an uzi, but I've never owned a gun before.
I would put my Touch ID success rate at greater than 99%, but I don't usually try to unlock when my hands are wet or dirty etc.
It's also kinda weird that all sorts of celebrities have one, when nobody who ordered one have received one yet, and delivery dates are being pushed back until summer, no?
This is a completely different product for Apple. They are putting serious distance between themselves and any possible competitor by becoming a fashion icon as well as a consumer tech gadget maker. None of these celebrity prerelease models are pushing back delivery dates because 90% of their profit will be coming from the sport model not gold ones. This marketing strategy will make their reputation in fashion permanent. The delay is only temporary. I think is pretty funny how Apple is working these celebrities to do their bidding.
I hope you realize that fallacy of that argument. What is the origin of the universe? Where did the matter for the Big Bang come from? Same problem you pose for God.
You may not believe in Him but that is just your belief. Just like the belief of others who do.
But I didn't invent the universe. It's really here. The notion of a god is an invention of the human mind, until proven otherwise. You don't see that the burden of proof rests on the shoulders of those who believe in the existence of a god? Then perhaps you should search Wikipedia for Russell's Teapot. I'm happy to continue this discussion about proof AFTER your read that.
What meaningless layer? If God exists, He would use natural physical laws to accomplish His designs, so what you see as an additional layer would be THE layer.
The invention of a god IS the meaningless layer. The question of the origin of EVERYTHING includes the origin of a god who created all the rest. You can't win a logical argument about where ALL of this came from by separating out part of the whole, not explaining its origin, and then suggesting that the part you separated out (in this case God) is the explanation for the rest. It still leaves you with no explanation for that part that you separated out; god.
I tend to agree. It's starting to be a bit over the top. Steve would not have wanted this. The product is the hero, as are Apple's regular loyal customers. This is not the Apple Steve built - this is too much exclusivity and pomp, moving to the front of the line based on fame or fortune. With Steve it was not about celebrity - but about making the best products, and the customers will come.
Your post loses all credibility by using Steves name - especially when you are trying to tell people what he would or wouldn't want. How the hell would you know one way or the other? Anyhow - I can't comment on the rest of your post because I stopped reading it as soon as I saw your Steve reference. Don't use it in future posts.
[quote] Hell, if I had an Apple gun with Touch ID, I could just leave it right on the livingroom table, just like I do with my iPad, and I wouldn't have to worry about anybody gaining unauthorized access to my things. [/quote]
You realize the NSA, FBI, etc would [I][B]really[/B][/I] want the back door to [i][B]that[/B][/I] feature?
This is a completely different product for Apple. They are putting serious distance between themselves and any possible competitor by becoming a fashion icon as well as a consumer tech gadget maker. None of these celebrity prerelease models are pushing back delivery dates because 90% of their profit will be coming from the sport model not gold ones. This marketing strategy will make their reputation in fashion permanent. The delay is only temporary. I think is pretty funny how Apple is working these celebrities to do their bidding.
I'll keep posting this until people stop claiming Apple has never given celebrities freebies. here's Steve Jobs doing the same thing with the then brand new Macintosh:
I tend to agree. It's starting to be a bit over the top. Steve would not have wanted this. The product is the hero, as are Apple's regular loyal customers. This is not the Apple Steve built - this is too much exclusivity and pomp, moving to the front of the line based on fame or fortune. With Steve it was not about celebrity - but about making the best products, and the customers will come.
that perception problem only exists in your mind. seriously -- the insecure jealousy of a few fanboys (like myself) on tech enthusiasts sites doesmt amount to a hill of beans IRL. it's not a blip on anyone's radar.
Until Samsung comes out with a smartwatch commercial billing theirs as a "watch for the rest of us." That will just under the skin of Apple fanboys as a personal insult and boil the blood. At that point, will one react by saying that Samsung is just "jealous" because celebrities aren't wearing their watch?
I'll keep posting this until people stop claiming Apple has never given celebrities freebies. here's Steve Jobs doing the same thing with the then brand new Macintosh:
are you serious? that sounds like high school talk. junior high, even.
I know that's meant to be insulting, but it's underscoring the *perception* of some folks: all for me, some for thee. The people who are uncomfortable about the spectacle of Apple traipsing after celebrities doesn't mean they are juvenile or just plain jealous, and are going to run to some other platform: it's the perception that makes diehards squirm, something that seems relatively new. Might be misplaced, might not: I have no idea anymore than you do. Perhaps not the best analogy, but pros often seem to be miffed that Apple focuses on their consumer level devices more than them. They're not going to get rid of their expensive setups based on hurt feelings, but they may not be inclined to keep with it down the line.
Watches are fashion accessories, much more so than phones.
The Watch will succeed or fail based in whether it is a beautifully designed utility product, just as the iPhone or iPad did. For me (and I am sure a lot of people) it is good function in good form.
Well, it's kind of hard to create a red-colored product for a charity that didn't come into existence until 4 years after the iMac G3 was discontinued.
So thank you for confirming that since (product) RED began in 2006, no red-colored products have been released by Apple that didn't donate proceeds to that charity, until now.
Most people would have inferred that from my statement.
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I don't think that I've ever gotten a "try again" when using Touch ID.
I would be ok with having Touch ID on a gun. It would be a great feature to have, and what if some criminal were to steal your gun or take it away from you in a struggle? You would be safe, because they wouldn't be able to fire the gun. It would be great for police officers to have, and they would never have to worry about any criminal taking their gun ever again.
The advantages gained from having Touch ID on a gun far outweighs the small disadvantage of having a 1 second delay to unlock the gun.
Can you imagine the amount of lives saved by Touch ID on a gun?
Some 2 year old kid blew their brains out because they found a gun that their idiot parent left around the house? No problem with Touch ID.
Hell, if I had an Apple gun with Touch ID, I could just leave it right on the livingroom table, just like I do with my iPad, and I wouldn't have to worry about anybody gaining unauthorized access to my things.
I suggest you inform yourself about firearrms, self defense, etc. Maybe take some training classes and read up on the (sorry) state of so-called smart weapons.
And btw, I get about 85-95% success with Touch ID. I'll go for weeks with no problem, and then, like this last week, will have lots of problems for no reason, and then it fixes it self somehow and starts to work again pretty flawlessly. Also, if my fingers are wet, like right after a shower or swim, or have glue on them after a session in my wood shop, TouchID has issues... Overall I am quite pleased with it for my phone. For a self defense or hunting weapon, not so much. Milli seconds count and TouchID is not up to the job. Trust me, or go do the research I suggested and take the classes I suggested.
I'd have to go with the solid gold Edition. The Man With the Golden Gun really made an impression on me as a kid.
Go Google "Saddam Husseins guns" or something like that. They found plenty of Gold guns in his palaces.
Am I the only who gets a somewhat bad taste in my mouth watching this?!?
Celebs wearing Apple gear isn't anything new. They've always done that.
But just like Apple products have always been featured on tv, without Apple paying off the networks, celebs weren't privileged with previews or free products.
If they wanted one, they had to go out themselves and buy it, just like everyone else. (Or ok, send an assistant to stand in line.)
No early access, no freebies just for being a member of the glitterati, or somehow related to our vapid nobility.
But they used Apple products regardless, because they were awesome. And because they were cool. And the fact that Apple didn't have to pay them or give them special privileges like everybody else, made them just a touch cooler than everybody else. A bit more authentic.
And now we get this... Celebrity selfies, execs posing with the few glamorous enough to get a freebie, to artificially make it cool?
I know all the arguments: Its a new kind of product, you can't market it like normal. But the iPhone and the iPad were also "a new kind of product" and Apple didn't have to stoop to this.
I dunno, it just doesn't seem right. I know it's not Steve Jobs Apple anymore... (question is: Is it Tim Cooks Apple? Or something pushed by Ive and Angela Ahrendts that he had to give reluctant approval to...)
And everything changes over time, but this is just so Un-Apple. And reminds me of the Google Glass introduction.
iPhone and iPad are utility products.
Watches are fashion accessories, much more so than phones. Although it looks like Apple is augmenting the watch with functionality now. i.e., It's a wrist computer _and_ a fashion item. The Watch didn't appear in a recent luxury watch trade show. Instead it appears in this design show, which suggests to me that Apple sees it as a "different kind of watch". However, it's not merely a new product. Angela Ahrendt mentioned that it's an entirely new category.
Celebrity endorsement is one very small part of the marketing. The entire thinking includes more flexible logistics, expanded channels (e.g., new stores in high street market), new product development capabilities (e.g., more advanced metallurgy, more advanced healthcare solutions). So yes it is naturally different from Apple's past work. They are gaining new power and new market(s).
Does this mean Apple has changed completely ? Yes and no. There are new found capabilities, and expanded channels. They can now make specific technologies like Taptic Engine, OLED, in small volume for the Watch first, before adding them to iPhones/iPads *if* so desired. But fundamentally where iPad, iPhone and Macs are concerned, they are still the same mass market machinery we know and love so far.
The Watch is just a new product line for them. Similar to how Beat headphones is a separate product line, with heavy celeb endorsement, which overtook the declining iPod in mindshare as the latter got subsumed by iPhone.
If you take a step back, they are still dwarfed by their existing bread and butter businesses.
I suggest you inform yourself about firearrms, self defense, etc. Maybe take some training classes and read up on the (sorry) state of so-called smart weapons.
And btw, I get about 85-95% success with Touch ID. I'll go for weeks with no problem, and then, like this last week, will have lots of problems for no reason, and then it fixes it self somehow and starts to work again pretty flawlessly. Also, if my fingers are wet, like right after a shower or swim, or have glue on them after a session in my wood shop, TouchID has issues... Overall I am quite pleased with it for my phone. For a self defense or hunting weapon, not so much. Milli seconds count and TouchID is not up to the job. Trust me, or go do the research I suggested and take the classes I suggested.
I admitedly don't know much about smart weapons or guns at all, but there's no need for me to take any training classes, because guns are incredibly hard to get a license for where I currently am located.
I've shot off a few guns before when on vacation to different states, like shotguns, handguns and an uzi, but I've never owned a gun before.
I would put my Touch ID success rate at greater than 99%, but I don't usually try to unlock when my hands are wet or dirty etc.
It's also kinda weird that all sorts of celebrities have one, when nobody who ordered one have received one yet, and delivery dates are being pushed back until summer, no?
This is a completely different product for Apple. They are putting serious distance between themselves and any possible competitor by becoming a fashion icon as well as a consumer tech gadget maker. None of these celebrity prerelease models are pushing back delivery dates because 90% of their profit will be coming from the sport model not gold ones. This marketing strategy will make their reputation in fashion permanent. The delay is only temporary. I think is pretty funny how Apple is working these celebrities to do their bidding.
But I didn't invent the universe. It's really here. The notion of a god is an invention of the human mind, until proven otherwise. You don't see that the burden of proof rests on the shoulders of those who believe in the existence of a god? Then perhaps you should search Wikipedia for Russell's Teapot. I'm happy to continue this discussion about proof AFTER your read that.
The invention of a god IS the meaningless layer. The question of the origin of EVERYTHING includes the origin of a god who created all the rest. You can't win a logical argument about where ALL of this came from by separating out part of the whole, not explaining its origin, and then suggesting that the part you separated out (in this case God) is the explanation for the rest. It still leaves you with no explanation for that part that you separated out; god.
Look at the douche bags Ive is associated with now that Apple is filled with executives from the fashion world.
Contrary to the douche bag like Eric Schmidt on original iPhone stage?
Hell, if I had an Apple gun with Touch ID, I could just leave it right on the livingroom table, just like I do with my iPad, and I wouldn't have to worry about anybody gaining unauthorized access to my things.
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You realize the NSA, FBI, etc would [I][B]really[/B][/I] want the back door to [i][B]that[/B][/I] feature?
http://www.intelligun.com/
I'll keep posting this until people stop claiming Apple has never given celebrities freebies. here's Steve Jobs doing the same thing with the then brand new Macintosh:
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=A_Mac_For_Mick.txt
...it's just simple marketing, and it doesn't cost much to do it.
Steve Jobs doing the exact same thing:
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=A_Mac_For_Mick.txt
...oops. guess you did t know him as well as you thought.
Until Samsung comes out with a smartwatch commercial billing theirs as a "watch for the rest of us." That will just under the skin of Apple fanboys as a personal insult and boil the blood. At that point, will one react by saying that Samsung is just "jealous" because celebrities aren't wearing their watch?
It's a silly comparison. Apple was in its startup phase and needed whatever little buzz it could get.
It's the largest, most successful company in the world now, in case you haven't noticed.
I know that's meant to be insulting, but it's underscoring the *perception* of some folks: all for me, some for thee. The people who are uncomfortable about the spectacle of Apple traipsing after celebrities doesn't mean they are juvenile or just plain jealous, and are going to run to some other platform: it's the perception that makes diehards squirm, something that seems relatively new. Might be misplaced, might not: I have no idea anymore than you do. Perhaps not the best analogy, but pros often seem to be miffed that Apple focuses on their consumer level devices more than them. They're not going to get rid of their expensive setups based on hurt feelings, but they may not be inclined to keep with it down the line.
Have a nice day.
The Watch will succeed or fail based in whether it is a beautifully designed utility product, just as the iPhone or iPad did. For me (and I am sure a lot of people) it is good function in good form.
So thank you for confirming that since (product) RED began in 2006, no red-colored products have been released by Apple that didn't donate proceeds to that charity, until now.
Most people would have inferred that from my statement.