thewhitefalcon wrote: »
Ah, another "let's take things out of context" type. Welcome to the block list.
dasanman69 wrote: »
Don't flatter yourself thinking you know what Steve Jobs meant. He's not here to clarify it, so they must be taken at face value. Btw pertaining the iPad he said "If you see a stylus they blew it."
jameskatt2 wrote: »
A bluetooth stylus is SILLY. Why would Apple want to make things more complicated?
If you're not willing to mess around with the MFI program then you could be making substandard cables that could damage the iPad/iPhone or (in the worst cases) the user. The MFI program not only brings in revenue for Apple, it guarantees a higher level of quality than just leaving the vendors to make the cheapest cables they can. Apple has never felt the need to chase every market; likewise they have never felt the need to chase every cable vendor.
And I'm not sure where this resistance to the MFI program is coming from. I can walk into any shop and find a whole wall full of devices and cables that support lightning. And if lightning was about to dropped then I'm not sure that Apple would have extended the program to allow vendors to build ports into their products.
I'm not sure how the capabilities of USB-C match up to Lightning, but I can see one area where Lightning has it beat:
Given Apple's obsession with thinning their kit down to the width of a razor blade, I'm sure they wouldn't be too keen on making the phone and the tablet thicker just to support USB-C.
And the other thing I've been wondering about: USB-C goes at the other end of the cable doesn't it? It looks to me as though Apple will be supporting both.
thewhitefalcon wrote: »
Buy a MacBook. iOS isn't designed for a mouse, and if we're honest, a mouse is a horrible input device.
appex wrote: »
Apple should make a real tablet computer (Mac tablet). iOS is a toy not fully compatible with Mac.
Originally Posted by jameskatt2
Because for one it would be optional to use, and second it makes several taks (like writing and painting and photo editing etc) LESS complicated and more precize.
Did you miss the fact that there's a HUGE industry and demand for styluses for the iPad, including models from major names like Adobe and Wacom? (and Paper, etc).
Yeah, just like battery operated mice and keyboards Apple sells. So?
And USB 3.0 peripherals like hard drives will interfere with the stylus
I won't even presume to understand what BS you mean here...
Both Force Touch and NFC are totally different technologies, unrelated to the core functionality of a stylus.
Even more importantly, you haven't understood that this is supposed to be a "pro" iPad, and that for several prosumer hobbyists and professionals and some industries a stylus is necessary tool (of which now they buy third-party if they use the iPad). Let's put it this way: until you educate yourself more, there's ZERO NEED for your opinion in this forum.
He also said they would never go into the books industry because "nobody reads". And then iBooks.
He said many things and changed his mind lots of times.
But let's get this straight:
First, other people make the decisions now.
Second, he meant we wouldn't make a tablet with a stylus as a primary input device. Not that he's opposed to stylyses generally, for places were it makes sense. Similarly, the iPad has support for bluetooth keyboard input, and yet he wouldn't make an iPad with a keyboard (a la Blackberry either).Oh, and something you probably miss, misinformed as you are: iOS has added additional support for stylus like devices a few versions ago. Not just using one (that's the easy part, could do it in the first version too), but explicity adding support to enable better functionality (like the variable touch sizing API), palm rejection etc.And Apple has several patents for a new stylus device:http://www.iphonehacks.com/2012/12/apple-working-on-a-better-stylus.html
vrf wrote: »
I disagree. This is the very type of niche device that Apple would pursue. It would return them to their roots as the computer choice for the creative professional.
ericthehalfbee wrote: »
Actually we DO know what Jobs meant. The problem is people like you taking that same stupid single quote out of context and ignoring all the others.
For example, in the Isaacson biography Jobs makes a bunch of comments about using a stylus. He says things like "God gave us ten styluses" while waving his fingers or "I want to make a tablet and it can't have a keyboard or stylus."
Pretty damn clear he wanted you to have a device that could be operated by anyone using your fingers and no additional hardware.
I hope not.
It is proven that multitasking has a detrimental effect on productivity.
I disagree. I almost always have to have two windows going to complete whatever project I am working on. Writing, CAD, Keynotes, you name it.
ronstark wrote: »
This will be a great boon to artists and animators. Disney wants this tech for sure. The pressure sensitive stylus is a huge attraction to artists of all kinds. The biggest issues will be connectivity and memory. If it has limited access and non-expandable memory it mightn't get placement as it would with great native software, ability to connect several working together in a creative ring and store large files.
Apple needs to be careful about overextending itself into making products they don't specialize in. One of the accomplishments of Jobs when he returned to Apple was cutting out products they shouldn't be making (e.g printers). Force touch could be great technology to pair with a stylus but the better move would be for Apple to team up with the likes of Wacom who specialize in graphics hardware to make more compatible products much like they encourage and feature developers to show off OS changes. Apple can bill a larger iPad as great for graphics work and create hardware with greater compatibility potential but that doesn't mean they need to make all of the hardware for that to happen well. They're not going to succeed in making their own Cintiq. Let Wacom or another hardware company do that. Different artists use their own preferred stylus to draw on an iPad anyway. They might want to stick with what they know.
The Cintiq 13HD would weigh close to twice as much and have a fat cable permanently attached.
There will be plenty of people who would love to change to the iPad.
I agree, RAM is what's holding it back.
The question is, how does what Jobs said have any relevance to what Apple does today?
You can get all sentimental and philosophical about vision. But as others have remarked, that was in 2007. New technology allow products to evolve to best address changing user needs.
So you can argue till the cows come home about what Jobs was speaking to.
But it's irrelevant. It's Tim Cook's Apple now.