I wouldn't have thought anything other than a metal case would have stood up to a shotgun blast - oh yes, of course riot gear's made out of composites, I know.
But still a plastic phone case ... insane.
Clear Polycarbonate sheets are sometimes used as bulletproof glass and polycarbonate lenses in safety goggles are used because the material tends to deform rather than break. Composites are materials comprised of two or more different materials such as fiberglass/carbon/kevlar composites where the materials are used with a resin like epoxy to form a composite material.
Not cheap plastic at all. I wonder how other plastic phones would do ?
This is not simple plastic, it's a steel reenforced sub-structure to a hard-coated polycarbonate which is fucking strong. I would say it can withstand .22 and maybe even 9mm calibers.
Clear Polycarbonate sheets are sometimes used as bulletproof glass and polycarbonate lenses in safety goggles are used because the material tends to deform rather than break. Composites are materials comprised of two or more different materials such as fiberglass/carbon/kevlar composites where the materials are used with a resin like epoxy to form a composite material.
and iPhone 5C shell also has steel reenforced structure
Everyone is missing the fact that the 5c has a steel frame also. It would have fared far worse had it been an aluminum cased phone:
"iPhone 5c features an all-new design crafted from a single, hard-coated polycarbonate body with a steel reinforced frame for a solid, sturdy feel. The steel frame holds the internal components and also doubles as the iPhone 5c’s multiband antenna"
I actually prefer the plastic cased, with steel support, 5c. Then again as someone that used plastic stocked m-16's way back there I don't have any preconceived notion about what it can do. I have seen plastic guns stand up better than aluminum ones. An aluminum stock for an m-16 using the same specs as the plastic would be beaten and warped in no time in a military situation, that's why you don't see them.
Don't get me wrong aluminum looks nice but it's not as great as it's made out to be.
This is not simple plastic, it's a steel reenforced sub-structure to a hard-coated polycarbonate which is fucking strong. I would say it can withstand .22 and maybe even 9mm calibers.
I would suspect that a 9mm to the chest hitting the phone would have been deflected enough to save the guy. Just a hunch. Especially if it were a hollow point.
Not to minimize the seriousness but that is birdshot which usually has much less gunpowder than say buckshot. Same stuff that Dick Cheney uses on his friends.
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Yep an ounce of shot at 9000 PSI at point blank range can be lethal for sure. All I'm saying is with steel or lead shot, it would go right through that phone.
As usual, two useless comments that add nothing to the conversation/topic.
This is not simple plastic, it's a steel reenforced sub-structure to a hard-coated polycarbonate which is fucking strong. I would say it can withstand .22 and maybe even 9mm calibers.
I think you have overdosed on cool aid:
I don't think that minimalist frame around three edges is going to do anything to stop a .22 and absolutely nothing in the case of a 9mm.
I don't think that minimalist frame around three edges is going to do anything to stop a .22 and absolutely nothing in the case of a 9mm.
Agree but you have other components that may help, like the battery. Not much but, hey you may get lucky.
I think The myth busters tested this, I'll have to look it up.
I don't think that minimalist frame around three edges is going to do anything to stop a .22 and absolutely nothing in the case of a 9mm.
I have shot many different calibers in my life and I can tell you this:.22 caliber can't even penetrate the drywall...9mm depending only distant may or may not penetrate this plastic AND the Phone gut inside to make it to your body. In fact, 9mm cannot even penetrate thru 2 drywalls at home. I would say 5C would have at least the hardness of 2x drywall. That's why most of the time, 9mm bullets get caught within resident drywall and I'm talking about US homes.
btw, for this fucking shotgun pellets, it's far from making thru the phone unless it's buckshot slug and in this case assuming it's 12 gauge, it's not...just damn game loads or bird shot.
I have shot many different calibers in my life and I can tell you this:.22 caliber can't even penetrate the drywall...9mm depending only distant may or may not penetrate this plastic AND the Phone gut inside to make it to your body. In fact, 9mm cannot even penetrate thru 2 drywalls at home. I would say 5C would have at least the hardness of 2x drywall. That's why most of the time, 9mm bullets get caught within resident drywall and I'm talking about US homes.
btw, for this fucking shotgun pellets, it's far from making thru the phone unless it's buckshot slug and in this case assuming it's 12 gauge, it's not...just damn game loads or bird shot.
Wait? You spend your leisure hours shooting holes in the walls of your house?
I wouldn't have thought anything other than a metal case would have stood up to a shotgun blast - oh yes, of course riot gear's made out of composites, I know.
But still a plastic phone case ... insane.
That's polycarbonate. The generic form of plastic originally marketed as Lexan. The stuff is pretty bullet proof, well, resistant in certain thicknesses, but bullet proof in some thicknesses and laminates against a variety of bullet calipers and velocities. My mother worked with Dan Fox, the American inventor (there was a European who came up with essentially that same plastic at the same time and there was a legal fight over the original patent rights). He worked at GE Plastics in my hometown of Pittsfield, MA. The same offices and timeframe from which Jack Welch emerged. My mother used to go to trade shows where the highlight of the show would be GE showing off a 1/2" thick two panel laminate of Lexan stopping a 45 caliper bullet. My mother was on stage narrating the presentations. I grew up around the stuff; many companies would send their plastic molds to GE Plastics to have sample in Lexan molded and tested. After the testing was complete, the extra units would be given away to employees, and my mother would get multiples of just about everything. We had pre-market Lexan hot air popcorn makers, Multimeters with clear Lexan covers over the meter housing, Lexan beer mugs (my brother would bet people they couldn't break them by setting it on the pavement and hitting it as hard as possible with a sledgehammer. Not one ever broke, but they would shoot up from the pavement at sometimes very high speed when struck off-center). We had one guy put a board over one and run over it with his RV. Didn't even compress under the weight. Radios, portable TVs, all manner of products flowed into my house made partly with Lexan. I've even still got a music CD that was pressed with Lexan. Sadly, it's Dione Warwick, but has a GE marketing group label and is slightly thicker than a normal CD, but has played in every player I've tried it in. When I was growing up, we even made sleds out of cut up 8'x4' sheets of the stuff, which would be very expensive today. I can attest, it's a very tough plastic.
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Lol. They should give him a new one just so they can put this one in the Ive museum.
Not cheap plastic at all. I wonder how other plastic phones would do ?
My Nokia 720 has a polycarbonate shell so it would probably have done as well.
Wow - that's from close range !
I wouldn't have thought anything other than a metal case would have stood up to a shotgun blast - oh yes, of course riot gear's made out of composites, I know.
But still a plastic phone case ... insane.
Clear Polycarbonate sheets are sometimes used as bulletproof glass and polycarbonate lenses in safety goggles are used because the material tends to deform rather than break. Composites are materials comprised of two or more different materials such as fiberglass/carbon/kevlar composites where the materials are used with a resin like epoxy to form a composite material.
Not cheap plastic at all. I wonder how other plastic phones would do ?
This is not simple plastic, it's a steel reenforced sub-structure to a hard-coated polycarbonate which is fucking strong. I would say it can withstand .22 and maybe even 9mm calibers.
Clear Polycarbonate sheets are sometimes used as bulletproof glass and polycarbonate lenses in safety goggles are used because the material tends to deform rather than break. Composites are materials comprised of two or more different materials such as fiberglass/carbon/kevlar composites where the materials are used with a resin like epoxy to form a composite material.
and iPhone 5C shell also has steel reenforced structure
That guy will be a customer for life...
Nice one! I see what you did there!
4 months from now Samsung will have a phone that looks just like this.
LOL! I nearly spit my Happy Friday beer all over my MacBook Pro!
Everyone is missing the fact that the 5c has a steel frame also. It would have fared far worse had it been an aluminum cased phone:
"iPhone 5c features an all-new design crafted from a single, hard-coated polycarbonate body with a steel reinforced frame for a solid, sturdy feel. The steel frame holds the internal components and also doubles as the iPhone 5c’s multiband antenna"
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/09/10Apple-Introduces-iPhone-5c-The-Most-Colorful-iPhone-Yet.html
I actually prefer the plastic cased, with steel support, 5c. Then again as someone that used plastic stocked m-16's way back there I don't have any preconceived notion about what it can do. I have seen plastic guns stand up better than aluminum ones. An aluminum stock for an m-16 using the same specs as the plastic would be beaten and warped in no time in a military situation, that's why you don't see them.
Don't get me wrong aluminum looks nice but it's not as great as it's made out to be.
4 months from now Samsung will have a phone that looks just like this.
Samsung Galaxy S3-4 had polycarbonate chassis...well, not lacquer coated for scratch resistant like 5C though.
This is not simple plastic, it's a steel reenforced sub-structure to a hard-coated polycarbonate which is fucking strong. I would say it can withstand .22 and maybe even 9mm calibers.
I would suspect that a 9mm to the chest hitting the phone would have been deflected enough to save the guy. Just a hunch. Especially if it were a hollow point.
Nice one! I see what you did there!
Wish I had been so clever! Once I read it again I saw what you saw I did.
Not to minimize the seriousness but that is birdshot which usually has much less gunpowder than say buckshot. Same stuff that Dick Cheney uses on his friends.
Yep an ounce of shot at 9000 PSI at point blank range can be lethal for sure. All I'm saying is with steel or lead shot, it would go right through that phone.
As usual, two useless comments that add nothing to the conversation/topic.
This is not simple plastic, it's a steel reenforced sub-structure to a hard-coated polycarbonate which is fucking strong. I would say it can withstand .22 and maybe even 9mm calibers.
I think you have overdosed on cool aid:
I don't think that minimalist frame around three edges is going to do anything to stop a .22 and absolutely nothing in the case of a 9mm.
Agree but you have other components that may help, like the battery. Not much but, hey you may get lucky.
I think The myth busters tested this, I'll have to look it up.
Wondering how long until Sammy tries to copy this
I think you have overdosed on cool aid:
I don't think that minimalist frame around three edges is going to do anything to stop a .22 and absolutely nothing in the case of a 9mm.
I have shot many different calibers in my life and I can tell you this:.22 caliber can't even penetrate the drywall...9mm depending only distant may or may not penetrate this plastic AND the Phone gut inside to make it to your body. In fact, 9mm cannot even penetrate thru 2 drywalls at home. I would say 5C would have at least the hardness of 2x drywall. That's why most of the time, 9mm bullets get caught within resident drywall and I'm talking about US homes.
btw, for this fucking shotgun pellets, it's far from making thru the phone unless it's buckshot slug and in this case assuming it's 12 gauge, it's not...just damn game loads or bird shot.
I have shot many different calibers in my life and I can tell you this:.22 caliber can't even penetrate the drywall...9mm depending only distant may or may not penetrate this plastic AND the Phone gut inside to make it to your body. In fact, 9mm cannot even penetrate thru 2 drywalls at home. I would say 5C would have at least the hardness of 2x drywall. That's why most of the time, 9mm bullets get caught within resident drywall and I'm talking about US homes.
btw, for this fucking shotgun pellets, it's far from making thru the phone unless it's buckshot slug and in this case assuming it's 12 gauge, it's not...just damn game loads or bird shot.
Wait? You spend your leisure hours shooting holes in the walls of your house?
Would have been more impressive if he would have called emergency services with the iPhone.
Hahaha jk glad he's safe.
Wait? You spend your leisure hours shooting holes in the walls of your house?
He misses a lot. He's also completely full of shit.
Wow - that's from close range !
I wouldn't have thought anything other than a metal case would have stood up to a shotgun blast - oh yes, of course riot gear's made out of composites, I know.
But still a plastic phone case ... insane.
That's polycarbonate. The generic form of plastic originally marketed as Lexan. The stuff is pretty bullet proof, well, resistant in certain thicknesses, but bullet proof in some thicknesses and laminates against a variety of bullet calipers and velocities. My mother worked with Dan Fox, the American inventor (there was a European who came up with essentially that same plastic at the same time and there was a legal fight over the original patent rights). He worked at GE Plastics in my hometown of Pittsfield, MA. The same offices and timeframe from which Jack Welch emerged. My mother used to go to trade shows where the highlight of the show would be GE showing off a 1/2" thick two panel laminate of Lexan stopping a 45 caliper bullet. My mother was on stage narrating the presentations. I grew up around the stuff; many companies would send their plastic molds to GE Plastics to have sample in Lexan molded and tested. After the testing was complete, the extra units would be given away to employees, and my mother would get multiples of just about everything. We had pre-market Lexan hot air popcorn makers, Multimeters with clear Lexan covers over the meter housing, Lexan beer mugs (my brother would bet people they couldn't break them by setting it on the pavement and hitting it as hard as possible with a sledgehammer. Not one ever broke, but they would shoot up from the pavement at sometimes very high speed when struck off-center). We had one guy put a board over one and run over it with his RV. Didn't even compress under the weight. Radios, portable TVs, all manner of products flowed into my house made partly with Lexan. I've even still got a music CD that was pressed with Lexan. Sadly, it's Dione Warwick, but has a GE marketing group label and is slightly thicker than a normal CD, but has played in every player I've tried it in. When I was growing up, we even made sleds out of cut up 8'x4' sheets of the stuff, which would be very expensive today. I can attest, it's a very tough plastic.