I think there's truth in that statement in respect to a general services company like Google. The problem for Apple (and maybe others like Dropbox) is that cloud storage is careening towards completely free. I see Apple eventually offering completely free cloud storage for current OSX/iOS users. Users like you who are happy to purchase it are I think in the minority.
That might be true for those who only need 20GB or less but I have 1TB with Google Drive and OneDrive and am more than happy to pay for their service, also the two cloud services together is less than a single TB from Apple. iCloud is still too expensive, even after their price adjustment, Apple doesn't need to make it a free service but they defiantly need to cut the price in half. Even DropBox, which is considered one of the more expensive services around is 80 dollars cheaper a year than iCloud for 1TB.
No one knows what Google does with the information they harvest. I really doubt it stops at metadata. They could even do some face recognition to find out who you associate with. One thing I'm convinced of though, is that they do not sell the information they collect as so many here claim.
When people say that I've always assumed they meant as in, selling access to you via your profile data, which is exactly what Google does. As a business I've used their ad stuff and I got to pick all sorts of meta data to target my reach with. So are they selling user data packaged to third parties? No. Are they selling your data as part of their ads product to their own customers? Yes. Of course yes.
When people say that I've always assumed they meant as in, selling access to you via your profile data, which is exactly what Google does. As a business I've used their ad stuff and I got to pick all sorts of meta data to target my reach with. So are they selling user data packaged to third parties? No. Are they selling your data as part of their ads product to their own customers? Yes. Of course yes.
Whether that matters or not is up to you.
Is iAd somehow different other than in scale? Apple is even making a valiant effort to improve on that too, throwing more resources at it and with a new-found willingness to accommodate the wants and wishes of the advertisers. Advertising isn't inherently evil is it, even targeted advertising?
Is iAd somehow different other than in scale? Apple is even making a valiant effort to improve on that too, throwing more resources at it and with a new-found willingness to accommodate the wishes of the advertisers. Advertising isn't inherently evil is it, even targeted advertising?
Apple doesn't collect information on age, gender relationship status, type of relationship one is looking for and education. These are all potential ad targeting demographics.
There is a difference in the android app vs ios app functionality. The android app uploads photos in the background as soon as the photo is taken (if you are in wifi, or give the app permission to use cellular data). With the IOS app, photos are only uploaded when your open the google photo app.
Google says they are aware of this, but it is a limitation of the multitasking design of IOS.
Other than that the service is spectacular. I turned it on and in minutes had several thousand photos grouped by place, face, story.
And you can search the image by the content of the photos! For example, I searched for jumping, and it showed all the pics of people jumping in my photos. The facial recognition is scary good. Hardly a need to tag photos anymore.
Oh they already know a whole lot a little more won't hurt.
People would be freaked out if they knew the wealth of info Google has on us. I'd like to see you put your money where your mouth is and quit Google search altogether.
Eric Schmidt, the most creepy guy in the world, said thank you and applaud your attitude.
I'm still using Google search in some capacity though. That doesn't mean I'm willing to give them access to info of all my photos.
Just tried Google Photos and it's WAY MUCH better than Apple Photos and I mean a MAGNITUDE better! It's amazing how they use intelligent algorithms to sort out photos based on people, food, places, etc. The ability to swipe several photos at once is awesome!
Glad to read that, I bought extra space in iCloud from apple for $3 per month (, I figure that its cheaper than buying a bigger hard drive on every computer I buy from apple and of course its all backed up to the cloud + i don't have to migrate my files each time I buy a computer either.
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This is really shameful for Apple. There free cloud storage is pathetic.
I own an iPad, Mac, iPhone 5S, and iPhone6.
FOUR FRIKEN DEVICES. yet they only give me 5GB of free storage.
At bear minimum it should be 5GB per device.
You pay thousand of dollars of Apple kit you can't afford $4 a month for 50GB of storage?
Just tried Google Photos and it's WAY MUCH better than Apple Photos and I mean a MAGNITUDE better! It's amazing how they use intelligent algorithms to sort out photos based on people, food, places, etc. The ability to swipe several photos at once is awesome!
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I am getting ready to finally give up on the clunkiness of iCloud.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/google-photos-app-news/
I wouldn't mind paying Apple
I'm already paying them, but I don't like it. Flickr has been free with 1TB for what, 2 years now?
Right now, both ecosystems provide a great experience. A lot of your choice comes down to price and hardware appearance.
I still think iOS looks and works way better. Android still feels extremely rough, and Lollipop is as Fisher Price as XP.
Yes because Google never works around privacy settings.
That might be true for those who only need 20GB or less but I have 1TB with Google Drive and OneDrive and am more than happy to pay for their service, also the two cloud services together is less than a single TB from Apple. iCloud is still too expensive, even after their price adjustment, Apple doesn't need to make it a free service but they defiantly need to cut the price in half. Even DropBox, which is considered one of the more expensive services around is 80 dollars cheaper a year than iCloud for 1TB.
When people say that I've always assumed they meant as in, selling access to you via your profile data, which is exactly what Google does. As a business I've used their ad stuff and I got to pick all sorts of meta data to target my reach with. So are they selling user data packaged to third parties? No. Are they selling your data as part of their ads product to their own customers? Yes. Of course yes.
Whether that matters or not is up to you.
Is iAd somehow different other than in scale? Apple is even making a valiant effort to improve on that too, throwing more resources at it and with a new-found willingness to accommodate the wishes of the advertisers. Advertising isn't inherently evil is it, even targeted advertising?
Apple doesn't collect information on age, gender relationship status, type of relationship one is looking for and education. These are all potential ad targeting demographics.
Google says they are aware of this, but it is a limitation of the multitasking design of IOS.
Other than that the service is spectacular. I turned it on and in minutes had several thousand photos grouped by place, face, story.
And you can search the image by the content of the photos! For example, I searched for jumping, and it showed all the pics of people jumping in my photos. The facial recognition is scary good. Hardly a need to tag photos anymore.
Oh they already know a whole lot a little more won't hurt.
People would be freaked out if they knew the wealth of info Google has on us. I'd like to see you put your money where your mouth is and quit Google search altogether.
Eric Schmidt, the most creepy guy in the world, said thank you and applaud your attitude.
I'm still using Google search in some capacity though. That doesn't mean I'm willing to give them access to info of all my photos.
I wouldn't even say that.
But I also would not use Google.
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I wouldn't even say that.
But I also would not use Google.
I figure it cheaper to buy iCloud storage than buy extra hard disk space each time I replace a Laptop
You can get 200 GB for $3.99 per month
thats $4*12months *3yrs= $144 for 3 years
Advantages : auto backup in cloud, no migration issues when buying new computer, security if Mac stolen
Disadvantages: can't think of any really
Just tried Google Photos and it's WAY MUCH better than Apple Photos and I mean a MAGNITUDE better! It's amazing how they use intelligent algorithms to sort out photos based on people, food, places, etc. The ability to swipe several photos at once is awesome!
I wouldn't even say that.
But I also would not use Google.
Glad to read that, I bought extra space in iCloud from apple for $3 per month (, I figure that its cheaper than buying a bigger hard drive on every computer I buy from apple and of course its all backed up to the cloud + i don't have to migrate my files each time I buy a computer either.
This is really shameful for Apple. There free cloud storage is pathetic.
I own an iPad, Mac, iPhone 5S, and iPhone6.
FOUR FRIKEN DEVICES. yet they only give me 5GB of free storage.
At bear minimum it should be 5GB per device.
You pay thousand of dollars of Apple kit you can't afford $4 a month for 50GB of storage?
I won't use it. After Google analyzed the photo and video, Google would know who, where and what you did. No thanks.
Totally agree, I don't trust google at all
Just tried Google Photos and it's WAY MUCH better than Apple Photos and I mean a MAGNITUDE better! It's amazing how they use intelligent algorithms to sort out photos based on people, food, places, etc. The ability to swipe several photos at once is awesome!
but you can't store your other pics can you?