Good move to no longer let this be men only shows!
You're a woman, obviously.
Why is this a good move? Why specifically is it good to have women delivering a keynote?
I'm really looking forward to your answer, because no matter what it is, it will have nothing to do with the merits of the person chosen for the job and everything to do with faux-feminist bullshit.
This is a developer conference. The time to put Ahrendts on stage was back in March. She would have no clue about native SDK for the Watch. Perhaps Craig Federighi will be the one discussing it today.
Oh please! What are you talking about? Do you have any idea as to why they run the conference keynote? It's all marketing. It has little to do with the actual nuts and bolts of the conference. Most peop,e who stream it, and that millions of people, have nothing to do with developing anything, but rather, are customers, possible customers, financial and competitors.
I'm over this woman and her less-than-stellar efforts to "enhance the shopping experience" for Apple Watch's launch via the Apple Store online which resulted in ridiculous wait times and thus my plummeting interest and enthusiasm about Apple Watch.
You apparently know nothing about the watch delays. It has nothing to do with her. If you want to blame someone, blame Williams, as he is in charge of the watch project, and is the COO.
But it's not really all his fault either. One of two suppliers of the Taptic Engine failed to meets standards, and for a while, Apple was just getting 50% of the supply they needed. That's a good reason for delays.
Yes and no. Developers don't, but the keynote is outward facing. Excerpts will be widely broadcast and posted. This is Apple's mid-year big event.
Exactly. That is why Apple will be announcing Apple Music today. Had they had the licenses in place we'd probably also be seeing a new AppleTV and its related over-the-top streaming service. I expect at least a recap mentioning the continued success of the iPhone and some generic statements about the watch as well. The watch stuff would be a perfect segue for talking about Apple Retail.
Seriously, have you EVER watched a developers conference? EVER? They always talk about sales, stores, production, etc. Always.
Developers want very much to see how the ship is going. The better Apple is doing, the happier they are. So Apple always talks about how many people visited the stores the previous quarter, how sales are doing, how many app downloads there were, how much money Apple has paid out to developers, etc.
Why is this good move? Why specifically is it good to have women delivering a keynote?
I'm really looking forward to your answer, because no matter it is it will have nothing to do with the merits of the person chosen for the job and everything to do with faux-feminist bullshit.
Don't let my post fool you about my gender.
And, why should I answer, when you know it already?
I have the impression, if you see a representative gender mix on stage, it might represent the mix of quality for this job in the population.
If you, say for medical research, want to know what plants live in the jungle, and are only shown fern, then you probably miss out a whole lot of opportunities.
A phrasing almost immediately followed by disrespect, as you illustrate here.
It's a developer conference.
[SIZE=72px]DEVELOPER CONFERENCE.[/SIZE] Not an infomercial. Developers don't want to hear from a pretty face who has no real clue, they want to hear from someone who knows the difference between GCC and LLVM. Apple events like this are not for Joe Blow, they're for people who want details.
No, the keynote IS an infomercial, except that they aren't selling anything directly. Actually, it's one of the biggest marketing tools Apple has.
Seriously folks, if you people have been watching these keynotes, you should all be very aware of this.
A phrasing almost immediately followed by disrespect, as you illustrate here.
It's a developer conference.
[SIZE=72px]DEVELOPER CONFERENCE.[/SIZE] Not an infomercial. Developers don't want to hear from a pretty face who has no real clue, they want to hear from someone who knows the difference between GCC and LLVM. Apple events like this are not for Joe Blow, they're for people who want details.
With all due respect, WWDC has evolved into much, much more than a Developer's Conference.
It is Apple's only [predictably scheduled] annual meeting -- other then the shareholder events.
The world is watching [and the stock market investors, too]. Apple has an opportunity to set the bar/direction for the tech and fashion industries ... and their supporters/developers.
It would be a crime not to exploit the opportunity ... That's ShowBiz!
No, the keynote IS an infomercial, except that they aren't selling anything directly. Actually, it's one of the biggest marketing tools Apple has.
Seriously folks, if you people have been watching these keynotes, you should all be very aware of this.
Last year we had no new hardware. A huge focus of the show was Swift and the new SDK.
Case closed.
Unless those are supposed to appeal to Sally in Duluth who has a 4S and is thinking about upgrading? " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Why is this good move? Why specifically is it good to have women delivering a keynote?
I'm really looking forward to your answer, because no matter it is it will have nothing to do with the merits of the person chosen for the job and everything to do with faux-feminist bullshit.
So you think that Apple has no woman that should be up there, that it's only competent men at Apple?
Well, we have Phill Shiller on stage. What does he have to do with engineering? We've had the guy who used to run Apple stores, somehow, I forgot his name for the moment. I'm sure you remember him. He was on stage as well. So why shouldn't the person who not only runs the huge Apple Stores, but the Web site as well, on stage?
You're saying that she has nothing to do with marketing, or the direction in which Apple retail is going? That would be strange, after all, if not for her experience in running Burberry, why would she have been hired?
Ron Johnson was never on stage at WWDC. I never said Ahrentds has nothing to do with the direction Apple retail is going. I just don't think Apple retail is the right conversation for WWDC. The March event would have been a better setting for that. And Schiller is on stage because he's Apple's guy to announce new hardware - hardware that the developers used to create apps.
And, why should I answer, when you know it already?
I have the impression, if you see a representative gender mix on stage, it might represent the mix of quality for this job in the population.
If you, say for medical research, want to know what plants live in the jungle, and are only shown fern, then you probably miss out a whole lot of opportunities.
But what you suggest begs for the diversity to be legitimate, and naturally sprung. For it to mean anything it needs to have evolved naturally of its own accord.
Forced diversity, or in this case the rabid Internet #trend called faux-feminism has nothing to do with that. Its just a buzz word, a talking about...one that public figures have to answer "correctly" or be lambasted. Any sort of forcibly diversifying roles that people fill unnaturally is a strike against freedom and honestly. It goes against all of the positive aspects of diversity that you mention.
With all due respect, WWDC has evolved into much, much more than a Developer's Conference.
It is Apple's only [predictably scheduled] annual meeting -- other then the shareholder events.
The world is watching [and the stock market investors, too]. Apple has an opportunity to set the bar/direction for the tech and fashion industries ... and their supporters/developers.
It would be a crime not to exploit the opportunity ... That's ShowBiz!
Yes the WWDC keynote has a wider audience than just he developers in the room. But I don think it's the place to be talking about retail or fashion. And I don't expect to hear about either of those things today. If we do that's actually a worrying sign to me, a sign that Apple didn't have enough other stuff to talk about.
So you think that Apple has no woman that should be up there, that it's only competent men at Apple?
Talk about bullshit!
Are you completely blind to the disgusting trend of force-fed diversity in the media?
I'm all for competent and capable women playing any role a man can, and vice versa. I couldn't care less who stands up there to deliver the goods. I DO care however about whether or not the person up there belongs there, or is there because management is responding to a particularly grotesque PR trend that is eroding honesty and freedom.
Are you completely blind to the disgusting trend of force-fed diversity in the media?
I'm all for competent and capable women playing any role a man can, and vice versa. I couldn't care less who stands up there to deliver the goods. I DO care however about whether or not the person up there belongs there, or is there because management is responding to a particularly grotesque PR trend that is eroding honesty and freedom.
Careful, the SJW's will go berzerk, you're questioning their religion.
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What's the female version of a black mock turtleneck, 501's, and grey New Balance sneaks?
Probably what Elizabeth Holmes wears. She nearly always wears the same thing just like Steve Jobs did.
Good move to no longer let this be men only shows!
You're a woman, obviously.
Why is this a good move? Why specifically is it good to have women delivering a keynote?
I'm really looking forward to your answer, because no matter what it is, it will have nothing to do with the merits of the person chosen for the job and everything to do with faux-feminist bullshit.
Oh please! What are you talking about? Do you have any idea as to why they run the conference keynote? It's all marketing. It has little to do with the actual nuts and bolts of the conference. Most peop,e who stream it, and that millions of people, have nothing to do with developing anything, but rather, are customers, possible customers, financial and competitors.
You apparently know nothing about the watch delays. It has nothing to do with her. If you want to blame someone, blame Williams, as he is in charge of the watch project, and is the COO.
But it's not really all his fault either. One of two suppliers of the Taptic Engine failed to meets standards, and for a while, Apple was just getting 50% of the supply they needed. That's a good reason for delays.
Yes and no. Developers don't, but the keynote is outward facing. Excerpts will be widely broadcast and posted. This is Apple's mid-year big event.
Exactly. That is why Apple will be announcing Apple Music today. Had they had the licenses in place we'd probably also be seeing a new AppleTV and its related over-the-top streaming service. I expect at least a recap mentioning the continued success of the iPhone and some generic statements about the watch as well. The watch stuff would be a perfect segue for talking about Apple Retail.
Seriously, have you EVER watched a developers conference? EVER? They always talk about sales, stores, production, etc. Always.
Developers want very much to see how the ship is going. The better Apple is doing, the happier they are. So Apple always talks about how many people visited the stores the previous quarter, how sales are doing, how many app downloads there were, how much money Apple has paid out to developers, etc.
You're a woman, obviously.
Why is this good move? Why specifically is it good to have women delivering a keynote?
I'm really looking forward to your answer, because no matter it is it will have nothing to do with the merits of the person chosen for the job and everything to do with faux-feminist bullshit.
Don't let my post fool you about my gender.
And, why should I answer, when you know it already?
I have the impression, if you see a representative gender mix on stage, it might represent the mix of quality for this job in the population.
If you, say for medical research, want to know what plants live in the jungle, and are only shown fern, then you probably miss out a whole lot of opportunities.
No, the keynote IS an infomercial, except that they aren't selling anything directly. Actually, it's one of the biggest marketing tools Apple has.
Seriously folks, if you people have been watching these keynotes, you should all be very aware of this.
With all due respect, WWDC has evolved into much, much more than a Developer's Conference.
It is Apple's only [predictably scheduled] annual meeting -- other then the shareholder events.
The world is watching [and the stock market investors, too]. Apple has an opportunity to set the bar/direction for the tech and fashion industries ... and their supporters/developers.
It would be a crime not to exploit the opportunity ... That's ShowBiz!
No, the keynote IS an infomercial, except that they aren't selling anything directly. Actually, it's one of the biggest marketing tools Apple has.
Seriously folks, if you people have been watching these keynotes, you should all be very aware of this.
Last year we had no new hardware. A huge focus of the show was Swift and the new SDK.
Case closed.
Unless those are supposed to appeal to Sally in Duluth who has a 4S and is thinking about upgrading?
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
So you think that Apple has no woman that should be up there, that it's only competent men at Apple?
Talk about bullshit!
Case closed? As though you know what you're talking about, which you obviously don't?
Ron Johnson was never on stage at WWDC. I never said Ahrentds has nothing to do with the direction Apple retail is going. I just don't think Apple retail is the right conversation for WWDC. The March event would have been a better setting for that. And Schiller is on stage because he's Apple's guy to announce new hardware - hardware that the developers used to create apps.
Don't let my post fool you about my gender.
And, why should I answer, when you know it already?
I have the impression, if you see a representative gender mix on stage, it might represent the mix of quality for this job in the population.
If you, say for medical research, want to know what plants live in the jungle, and are only shown fern, then you probably miss out a whole lot of opportunities.
But what you suggest begs for the diversity to be legitimate, and naturally sprung. For it to mean anything it needs to have evolved naturally of its own accord.
Forced diversity, or in this case the rabid Internet #trend called faux-feminism has nothing to do with that. Its just a buzz word, a talking about...one that public figures have to answer "correctly" or be lambasted. Any sort of forcibly diversifying roles that people fill unnaturally is a strike against freedom and honestly. It goes against all of the positive aspects of diversity that you mention.
Yes the WWDC keynote has a wider audience than just he developers in the room. But I don think it's the place to be talking about retail or fashion. And I don't expect to hear about either of those things today. If we do that's actually a worrying sign to me, a sign that Apple didn't have enough other stuff to talk about.
I was always partial to Veronica. ????
So you think that Apple has no woman that should be up there, that it's only competent men at Apple?
Talk about bullshit!
Are you completely blind to the disgusting trend of force-fed diversity in the media?
I'm all for competent and capable women playing any role a man can, and vice versa. I couldn't care less who stands up there to deliver the goods. I DO care however about whether or not the person up there belongs there, or is there because management is responding to a particularly grotesque PR trend that is eroding honesty and freedom.
You done broke the code!
Are you completely blind to the disgusting trend of force-fed diversity in the media?
I'm all for competent and capable women playing any role a man can, and vice versa. I couldn't care less who stands up there to deliver the goods. I DO care however about whether or not the person up there belongs there, or is there because management is responding to a particularly grotesque PR trend that is eroding honesty and freedom.
Careful, the SJW's will go berzerk, you're questioning their religion.
I'm not a woman. But I think Apple's events would benefit from having at least 1 women presenter.
Must we continue to bark up the wrong tree? Who cares if women or men give the keynotes?
As long as the person up there belongs there because they are best for the part, then it shouldn't matter.