Um, you know that some point pretty much everyone is "plugging" something in to make their wireless keyboards, mice and trackpads work. Up through today that's been the AA batteries, and it's clear that finding a coin or a key to unscrew the battery port to remove the batteries to place into the charger (or through away), and then reverse that process is a fair bit more annoying than popping in a plug once every couple months.
Actually it isn't. I have a stock of Eneloops. I just take two from the fresh pile and put the used ones in another pile. Once a month, I charge up the used pile. The exercise is done in a minute.
We have a Logitech bluetooth set at work that uses USB plug in to recharge. You have to first find a cable then find a free USB port. The mouse cable is a whole 3 inches long, with the port on the bottom of the mouse so it's unusable when it charges. Looking at the picture, it looks like Apple put the port on the bottom of the mouse. So your mouse is out of commission for at least an hour.
You could charge before going home, but if you turn off the computer it doesn't charge. The keyboard has the port on the side, but then you have to route a new cable from the side or back of the computer, so you might as well leave it in permanently, defeating the whole point of a wireless set. After it charges, then you have to remember to disconnect everything and put it away.
Apple doesn't have a full set of wired devices right now; neither the Magic Mouse nor the Magic Trackpad come in wired varieties. I don't think it's too "out there" to speculate that the keyboards may follow suit.
Nope, the product formerly known as the Mighty Mouse is still available and you can substitute it for free when buying a iMac.
Not a huge deal-breaker or anything, but I'd prefer if there were an AA version too (although there probably won't be).
What's the appeal of playing musical chairs with batteries when a plug is faster and easier? Imagine if your smartphone, tablet and notebook all hd external chargers and required the battery to be removed and a different battery inserted all the time. How is that easier than having the device itself allow the charging?
Actually it isn't. […] The exercise is done in a minute.
You say that "actually it isn't" and that it can be "done in a minute." Great, want to know how many times I can pull out and push in the Lightning connector from my iPhone in one minute? enough times that my iPhone wants to smoke a cigarette afterwards? I can connect my Apple Watch to it charger even more. So how is removing the battery port screw, removing the batteries, putting in the fresh batteries screwing the plug back in, hitting the power button again, waiting for the BT to connect, and then disposing of or setting the used batteries to recharge easier than popping in a plug without ever having to lose your connection to your system. One of those you can do in the middle of an email without ever losing the connection to the peripheral.
Actually it isn't. I have a stock of Eneloops. I just take two from the fresh pile and put the used ones in another pile. Once a month, I charge up the used pile. The exercise is done in a minute.
So you just buy a new laptop battery every time it runs down?
Actually it isn't. I have a stock of Eneloops. I just take two from the fresh pile and put the used ones in another pile. Once a month, I charge up the used pile. The exercise is done in a minute.
We understand each other. Eneloops make AA battery devices much more convenient than just about anything else.
We have a Logitech bluetooth set at work that uses USB plug in to recharge. You have to first find a cable then find a free USB port. The mouse cable is a whole 3 inches long, with the port on the bottom of the mouse so it's unusable when it charges. Looking at the picture, it looks like Apple put the port on the bottom of the mouse. So your mouse is out of commission for at least an hour.
That sucks. I think the new Logitechs have their charging port on the back rather than on the bottom, so you don't have to take them completely out of commission while recharging. None of the rounded-rectangle things on the picture above are labeled, so it's not certain that any of those are the charging port either. I'd expect it'd probably be on the back for Apple as well, really, if for no other reason than making it run vertical would force the device to be a lot thicker than having it horizontal.
You could charge before going home, but if you turn off the computer it doesn't charge. The keyboard has the port on the side, but then you have to route a new cable from the side or back of the computer, so you might as well leave it in permanently, defeating the whole point of a wireless set. After it charges, then you have to remember to disconnect everything and put it away.
I've got some devices like that; the trick is to get a monitor with an integrated USB hub in it (or just a plain old USB hub). Then, you plug into that and the thing keeps charging it even if the computer's not present.
That's not a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad, though; that's the reason I mentioned those two models. If it were a big deal, Apple could of course keep an old prev-gen keyboard around as well if they dumped it in the new models.
What's the appeal of playing musical chairs with batteries when a plug is faster and easier? Imagine if your smartphone, tablet and notebook all hd external chargers and required the battery to be removed and a different battery inserted all the time. How is that easier than having the device itself allow the charging?
The plug isn't faster by a long shot. You have to wait an hour or more to charge most USB-chargeable devices.
You say that "actually it isn't" and that it can be "done in a minute." Great, want to know how many times I can pull out and push in the Lightning connector from my iPhone in one minute? enough times that my iPhone wants to smoke a cigarette afterwards? I can connect my Apple Watch to it charger even more. So how is removing the battery port screw, removing the batteries, putting in the fresh batteries screwing the plug back in, hitting the power button again, waiting for the BT to connect, and then disposing of or setting the used batteries to recharge easier than popping in a plug without ever having to lose your connection to your system. One of those you can do in the middle of an email without ever losing the connection to the peripheral.
How long does it take you to plug in the device, and then have enough juice to go somewhere with it?
That's not a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad, though; that's the reason I mentioned those two models. If it were a big deal, Apple could of course keep an old prev-gen keyboard around as well if they dumped it in the new models.
The issue with keyboards too is that it's a logistical nightmare. They can sell one mouse worldwide, but there's 15 different Apple keyboard layouts, some of which require a different metal piece due to additional keys and shape of return.
The plug isn't faster by a long shot. You have to wait an hour or more to charge most USB-chargeable devices.
How long does it take you to plug in the device, and then have enough juice to go somewhere with it?
You didn't think your original comment through and now just trying to justify it with really stupid shit. Stop! Batteries don't charge instantly when removed from its device and don't imply that the keyboard, mouse or trackpad couldn't be charging with the iMac in which it was intended. If, in your unrealistic fantasy, there is some bizarre setup with a Mac Pro in some closest running Plex for a 100" 4K UHDTV from your cinema room then you may not have a USB port nearby, but don't make it sound like the battery will die right away or that there are no options for charging without plugging into that Mac Pro in the closest. You're shaping your argument to be even more ridiculous than those claiming the iPhone will fail because the battery is built-in.
The issue with keyboards too is that it's a logistical nightmare. They can sell one mouse worldwide, but there's 15 different Apple keyboard layouts, some of which require a different metal piece due to additional keys and shape of return.
Yeah, that's why my guess is that they'd just leave that market open to the third parties. It could go a few different ways, though.
You didn't think your original comment through and now just trying to justify it with really stupid shit. Stop! Batteries don't charge instantly when removed from its device
How charming. You know, I don't really care about this enough to justify dealing with your personality again. If you can't understand the concept of keeping a spare set of rechargeable batteries on hand... I'm okay with that.
@ Soli. lmao " Great, want to know how many times I can pull out and push in the Lightning connector from my iPhone in one minute? enough times that my iPhone wants to smoke a cigarette afterwards?"
I don't mind the batteries being integrated as I'm sure the time between charges will be increased dramatically, but I didn't like reading they will changed via USB instead of induction charging. Not a big deal but I would have likely to have seen that.
Hasty conclusion. The ?Watch is charged via USB AND induction. Perhaps the new mouse will use a similar system.
Here's your wireless keyboard....that you have to plug in with a wire.
Gee, thanks Apple.
Yeah, God forbid you have to take 2 seconds to plug in a cable once every FEW MONTHS in order to charge it. Really, Apple should compensate you for this wasted time.
Unbelievable how entitled, lazy, and spoiled we've become as a human species.
I'd like to see a numeric keypad integrated. I use them for accounting and recording grades.
To this day, I don't understand why Apple never made a stand-alone add-on keypad. I would have bought one. Indeed I would prefer it as a separate device I could turn on or off, and keep it over on the right side of my mouse.
There is at least one company that makes one that (sort of) matches the design of the Apple keyboard. I bet Apple would have sold plenty, if they had made them.
Fix the goddamn chicklet keyboard keys going dead and making their value other than that of being recycled. I'm typing on a Bondie Gray USB 1.1 keyboard using a Linux Workstation. The damn thing works flawlessly to this day.
My stainless steel Apple keyboard full-size/extended went tits up just over 12 months after purchase.
It's a lovely looking useless POS.
I got a Mathias mechanical keyboard with the standard Mac 101 layout. While it is plastic clad and styled after the old plastic PowerMacs, the mechanism is springy and clicky and solid feeling. Should out last any of Apple's scissor-switch keyboards.
Yeah, God forbid you have to take 2 seconds to plug in a cable once every FEW MONTHS in order to charge it. Really, Apple should compensate you for this wasted time.
Unbelievable how entitled, lazy, and spoiled we've become as a human species.
If it had wireless charging, the naysayers would complain about the charging pad needing to be plugged in. It's a game of "whack-a-hole (in their flawgic)".
@ Soli. lmao
" Great, want to know how many times I can pull out and push in the Lightning connector from my iPhone in one minute? enough times that my iPhone wants to smoke a cigarette afterwards?"
Now thats a disturbing mental image.
Yes, but freakn' funny. My hat tips to you, Soli.lmao, sir.
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Um, you know that some point pretty much everyone is "plugging" something in to make their wireless keyboards, mice and trackpads work. Up through today that's been the AA batteries, and it's clear that finding a coin or a key to unscrew the battery port to remove the batteries to place into the charger (or through away), and then reverse that process is a fair bit more annoying than popping in a plug once every couple months.
Actually it isn't. I have a stock of Eneloops. I just take two from the fresh pile and put the used ones in another pile. Once a month, I charge up the used pile. The exercise is done in a minute.
We have a Logitech bluetooth set at work that uses USB plug in to recharge. You have to first find a cable then find a free USB port. The mouse cable is a whole 3 inches long, with the port on the bottom of the mouse so it's unusable when it charges. Looking at the picture, it looks like Apple put the port on the bottom of the mouse. So your mouse is out of commission for at least an hour.
You could charge before going home, but if you turn off the computer it doesn't charge. The keyboard has the port on the side, but then you have to route a new cable from the side or back of the computer, so you might as well leave it in permanently, defeating the whole point of a wireless set. After it charges, then you have to remember to disconnect everything and put it away.
Apple doesn't have a full set of wired devices right now; neither the Magic Mouse nor the Magic Trackpad come in wired varieties. I don't think it's too "out there" to speculate that the keyboards may follow suit.
Nope, the product formerly known as the Mighty Mouse is still available and you can substitute it for free when buying a iMac.
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MB112LL/B/apple-mouse
What's the appeal of playing musical chairs with batteries when a plug is faster and easier? Imagine if your smartphone, tablet and notebook all hd external chargers and required the battery to be removed and a different battery inserted all the time. How is that easier than having the device itself allow the charging?
You say that "actually it isn't" and that it can be "done in a minute." Great, want to know how many times I can pull out and push in the Lightning connector from my iPhone in one minute? enough times that my iPhone wants to smoke a cigarette afterwards? I can connect my Apple Watch to it charger even more. So how is removing the battery port screw, removing the batteries, putting in the fresh batteries screwing the plug back in, hitting the power button again, waiting for the BT to connect, and then disposing of or setting the used batteries to recharge easier than popping in a plug without ever having to lose your connection to your system. One of those you can do in the middle of an email without ever losing the connection to the peripheral.
So you just buy a new laptop battery every time it runs down?
That sucks. I think the new Logitechs have their charging port on the back rather than on the bottom, so you don't have to take them completely out of commission while recharging. None of the rounded-rectangle things on the picture above are labeled, so it's not certain that any of those are the charging port either. I'd expect it'd probably be on the back for Apple as well, really, if for no other reason than making it run vertical would force the device to be a lot thicker than having it horizontal.
I've got some devices like that; the trick is to get a monitor with an integrated USB hub in it (or just a plain old USB hub). Then, you plug into that and the thing keeps charging it even if the computer's not present.
That's not a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad, though; that's the reason I mentioned those two models. If it were a big deal, Apple could of course keep an old prev-gen keyboard around as well if they dumped it in the new models.
How long does it take you to plug in the device, and then have enough juice to go somewhere with it?
That's not a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad, though; that's the reason I mentioned those two models. If it were a big deal, Apple could of course keep an old prev-gen keyboard around as well if they dumped it in the new models.
The issue with keyboards too is that it's a logistical nightmare. They can sell one mouse worldwide, but there's 15 different Apple keyboard layouts, some of which require a different metal piece due to additional keys and shape of return.
You didn't think your original comment through and now just trying to justify it with really stupid shit. Stop! Batteries don't charge instantly when removed from its device and don't imply that the keyboard, mouse or trackpad couldn't be charging with the iMac in which it was intended. If, in your unrealistic fantasy, there is some bizarre setup with a Mac Pro in some closest running Plex for a 100" 4K UHDTV from your cinema room then you may not have a USB port nearby, but don't make it sound like the battery will die right away or that there are no options for charging without plugging into that Mac Pro in the closest. You're shaping your argument to be even more ridiculous than those claiming the iPhone will fail because the battery is built-in.
How charming. You know, I don't really care about this enough to justify dealing with your personality again. If you can't understand the concept of keeping a spare set of rechargeable batteries on hand... I'm okay with that.
" Great, want to know how many times I can pull out and push in the Lightning connector from my iPhone in one minute? enough times that my iPhone wants to smoke a cigarette afterwards?"
Now thats a disturbing mental image.
Did the reviewers conduct a survey of chiclet keyboard users? Have any actual data you can point to, other than personal experience?
Hasty conclusion. The ?Watch is charged via USB AND induction. Perhaps the new mouse will use a similar system.
An inductive mousepad so that it never loses charge!
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Just release OS XI already!
Whilst I hate mousepads, I could perhaps consider one that is charging the mouse whilst I'm using it
Here's your wireless keyboard....that you have to plug in with a wire.
Gee, thanks Apple.
Yeah, God forbid you have to take 2 seconds to plug in a cable once every FEW MONTHS in order to charge it. Really, Apple should compensate you for this wasted time.
Unbelievable how entitled, lazy, and spoiled we've become as a human species.
I'd like to see a numeric keypad integrated. I use them for accounting and recording grades.
To this day, I don't understand why Apple never made a stand-alone add-on keypad. I would have bought one. Indeed I would prefer it as a separate device I could turn on or off, and keep it over on the right side of my mouse.
There is at least one company that makes one that (sort of) matches the design of the Apple keyboard. I bet Apple would have sold plenty, if they had made them.
I got a Mathias mechanical keyboard with the standard Mac 101 layout. While it is plastic clad and styled after the old plastic PowerMacs, the mechanism is springy and clicky and solid feeling. Should out last any of Apple's scissor-switch keyboards.
If it had wireless charging, the naysayers would complain about the charging pad needing to be plugged in. It's a game of "whack-a-hole (in their flawgic)".
Hallelujah—I am waiting for the external force trackpad (and the Apple TV4).