Apple to update Magic Mouse & wireless keyboard with Bluetooth LE, integrated batteries, FCC reveals

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  • Reply 81 of 97
    sirozhasirozha Posts: 801member
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post





    You can't beat the speed, pointing-accuracy, freewheeling, customisability and ergonomics of a professional mouse. Source: I own both.



    Do you consider Magic Mouse to be a professional mouse? I wasn't referring to a professional mouse but rather comparing Magic Trackpad to Magic Mouse. 

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  • Reply 82 of 97
    sirozhasirozha Posts: 801member

    I want a Bluetooth keyboard with solar panel charging from Apple. Logitech released one several years ago. There should be a USB option for charging as well (which Logitech didn't have) in case there is not enough sunlight in certain situation, but for the most part, solar panels should provide enough charge so that the keyboard needs never be plugged in. Same should be true for Magic Trackpad, which has a benefit of using the entire trackpad surface as a solar panel. 

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  • Reply 83 of 97
    pscooter63pscooter63 Posts: 1,084member
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    Originally Posted by cornchip View Post



    I noticed a couple keynotes ago none of the Apple execs were using a MagicMouse on stage. I think I will probably be getting a MagicTrackpad in the next 12 mo. Certainly with my next Mac in the next 3-5 yrs.

     

    I was on the fence about the Magic Trackpad for far too long... I was scared off by reviews (even professional ones) which indicated it was less precise than a traditional mouse.  Cow patties... it's far, far more precise and subtle than any mouse.  It totally makes sense that precision is more easily obtained with smaller muscles, than with larger muscle groups.  I can even "roll" my fingertip to get single-pixel precision. 

     

    My only regret was waiting as long as I did to jump in.  I will never own another mouse.

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  • Reply 84 of 97
    boeyc15boeyc15 Posts: 986member

    Sooo... could the magic track pad be the basis of some sort of new 'Apple TV' input device? Touch it to wake up an overlay on the TV screen?? Yup... won't control other devices though unless there is some sort of BT-LE controlled blaster for IR etc.

    Just spouting off possibilities... personally I like physical buttons.

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  • Reply 85 of 97
    Originally Posted by bzzlink View Post

    Can't use the one they have now because of the angle. Kills my wrist

     

    The angle is there to save wrists. That’s strange.

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  • Reply 86 of 97
    neilmneilm Posts: 1,004member
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    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post

    Fix the goddamn chicklet keyboard keys going dead and making their value other than that of being recycled. I'm typing on a Bondie Gray USB 1.1 keyboard using a Linux Workstation. The damn thing works flawlessly to this day.

    My stainless steel Apple keyboard full-size/extended went tits up just over 12 months after purchase.

    It's a lovely looking useless POS.

     

    Your statistical sample size falls short for drawing conclusions, especially absolutist ones.

     

    In our office of over two dozen Macs I see keyboard failures of fewer than 1 per year, so well under 4% per year. That's certainly higher than it ought to be, but neither is it anything to get too worked up over.

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  • Reply 87 of 97
    2oh12oh1 Posts: 503member

    I hope this means an update for the Magic Trackpad is on the way too.  I love mine, but it's starting to die (after years, so I'm not complaining!).  I assume a force touch model is on the way....?

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  • Reply 88 of 97
    sirozha wrote: »
    I want a Bluetooth keyboard with solar panel charging from Apple. Logitech released one several years ago. There should be a USB option for charging as well (which Logitech didn't have) in case there is not enough sunlight in certain situation, but for the most part, solar panels should provide enough charge so that the keyboard needs never be plugged in. Same should be true for Magic Trackpad, which has a benefit of using the entire trackpad surface as a solar panel. 
    That Logitech solar keyboard was obnoxious. The first version of it was full-sized, but made you use a receiver instead of Bluetooth. When they finally added Bluetooth support... they removed the full-sized option. Pick your poison.

    I picked up a Logitech K480 a while ago because of the handy smartphone/tablet stand. It's an okay keyboard, but it hasn't got a patch on Apple's in terms of comfort. This is surprising, since I love their mice.
    The angle is there to save wrists. That’s strange.
    It's been known for a long time that having the keyboard flat is better for ergonomics. I assume that would extend to trackpads as well. The reason for the current slight incline is to accommodate the battery case, and now that I think of it, that might be exactly the reason that Apple is considering moving to an integrated battery (assuming the rumor is true).
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  • Reply 89 of 97
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Durandal1707 View Post

    It's been known for a long time that having the keyboard flat is better for ergonomics.



    Which is why every keyboard is at an angle, of course…

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  • Reply 90 of 97
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member

    ^ Because consumer products are always designed with the health benefits of the user in mind.

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  • Reply 91 of 97

    Which is why every keyboard is at an angle, of course…
    There are two theories about that. One is that the presence of the feet is the result of regulations intended to make the keys easier to see, for the benefit of non-touch typists. The other is that people were just used to the tilt from using typewriters (which had to have a tilt for mechanical reasons). For touch typists, flat is better because it is more ergonomic, and some people even recommend a reverse tilt (where the front is higher than the back).

    http://lifehacker.com/leave-your-keyboard-feet-folded-in-for-better-ergonomic-514381372

    https://www.bakkerelkhuizen.com/ergonomics/feet-in-or-out/

    http://www.healthycomputing.com/office/setup/keyboard/
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  • Reply 92 of 97
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,084member
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    Originally Posted by Durandal1707 View Post





    There are two theories about that. One is that the presence of the feet is the result of regulations intended to make the keys easier to see, for the benefit of non-touch typists. The other is that people were just used to the tilt from using typewriters (which had to have a tilt for mechanical reasons). For touch typists, flat is better because it is more ergonomic, and some people even recommend a reverse tilt (where the front is higher than the back).



    http://lifehacker.com/leave-your-keyboard-feet-folded-in-for-better-ergonomic-514381372



    https://www.bakkerelkhuizen.com/ergonomics/feet-in-or-out/



    http://www.healthycomputing.com/office/setup/keyboard/

     

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    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    I don't see MagSafe, although I could see a magnetic charger if it's conduction charging (which would also make the device look more sleek and seamless). Lightning could work fine, but I think I'm leaning slightly more toward USB-C.

     

    Yes to USB-C  (not A, B, Micro, or Mini USB)

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  • Reply 93 of 97
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member
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    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post



    Fix the goddamn chicklet keyboard keys going dead and making their value other than that of being recycled. I'm typing on a Bondie Gray USB 1.1 keyboard using a Linux Workstation. The damn thing works flawlessly to this day.



    My stainless steel Apple keyboard full-size/extended went tits up just over 12 months after purchase.



    It's a lovely looking useless POS.



    Yeah thats called a defective unit. Apple keyboards last forever.

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  • Reply 94 of 97
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member

    Obviously it should be like a console game controller....where you can still use the device like it were a wired version while plugged in, but most of the time you don't need it plugged in.

     

    I'm really hoping they use Lightning and not USB-C...I don't need an otherwise useless USB-C cable permanently taking up a port on my iMac...there is already a Lightning cable claiming a port, so when the need arises I should be able to connect that.

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  • Reply 95 of 97
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by pmz View Post

    I'm really hoping they use Lightning and not USB-C...I don't need an otherwise useless USB-C cable permanently taking up a port on my iMac...




    If it’s permanently being taken up, then the only concern is not having an extra one. Just call for more ports.

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  • Reply 96 of 97
    jcs2305jcs2305 Posts: 1,342member
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    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

     

     

    Yeah, God forbid you have to take 2 seconds to plug in a cable once every FEW MONTHS in order to charge it. Really, Apple should compensate you for this wasted time. 

     

    Unbelievable how entitled, lazy, and spoiled we've become as a human species. 


    Please come down from your high horse for a second and maybe consider not everyone's set up is the same as yours..sheesh. " Unbelievable how entitled, lazy, and spoiled we've become as a human species."  This is a bit much...

     

     Personally If I am not using my laptop I am sitting about 6ft or so from my mac with the monitor on the wall.  It is definitely nice to be able to reach and grab two batteries, pop them in and power right back on and continue what I was doing.  Hanging wires in my house are a no go. Stopping what I am doing to charge a keyboard or track pad is also not a good option as far as I am concerned.

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  • Reply 97 of 97
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    jcs2305 wrote: »
    Please come down from your high horse for a second and maybe consider not everyone's set up is the same as yours..sheesh. " Unbelievable how entitled, lazy, and spoiled we've become as a human species."  This is a bit much...[/COLOR ]It is definitely nice to be able to reach and grab two batteries, pop them in and power right back on and continue what I was doing.

    These arguments are so ridiculous. You're arguing in favor or having to power down the device, swap out batteries, and then power it back on again. I love my MBP and using Mac OS X but I would use Windows in a heartbeat if Apple's notebooks required me to turn off the device, pull out the battery, replace it with a charged battery I have sitting in a charging cradle, and boot it back up again to continue working. You hate cables but you like playing musicals chairs with various batteries, devices, their removal battery ports, and a separate charging cradle? Really?! Even if your closest USB port is too far away you could still save time and effort by using an external battery pack with a USB port that you can pull out of a drawer to charge up these devices without ever having to shut a damn thing down.
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