Large Apple logo goes up at Bill Graham Auditorium ahead of iPhone event

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  • Reply 21 of 75
    That's impressive I have to admit. Still, a bit away from Madonna (300 million albums). Also, Madonna holds a record she certainly is not so eager to break: with her latest album biggest second-week drop in history. ;)

    I know people like Madonna and Prince (neither of which I've ever understood), but is 300 million albums really that impressive when you look at Swift's age with 170 million to Madonna's age with 300 million? Taylor not only seems like a great songwriter, but has a more balance aspect to her trajectory, and seem to have a real kindness about her which seems to have led to genuine respect and friends with people in the industry. I won't touch on the fans.
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  • Reply 22 of 75
    Apple appears to be punking everyone; the Beta's been popping up messages telling people to download a new update which isn't available.
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  • Reply 23 of 75
    Speaking of Swift, will Swift 2.0 be finalized next week, too?
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  • Reply 24 of 75
    sog35 wrote: »
    Applehub = new AppleTv

    I just think Apple may renamed the new AppleTv so not to confuse it with the old AppleTV

    For someone that makes these hardened assertion about the future you sure like to change up your story a lot.
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  • Reply 25 of 75
    calicali Posts: 3,494member
    rogifan wrote: »
    And not surprisingly the media is out there saying Apole was beaten to the punch because Huawei announced a "force touch" phone before Apple did. I guess the fact that new MacBook trackpads already have this functionality doesn't matter?

    One headline read:

    "Huawei brings ForceTouch to smartphones before Apple"

    And I'm here thinking "Huawei's phones won't be out for a long time...."
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  • Reply 26 of 75
    solipsismy wrote: »
    Speaking of Swift, will Swift 2.0 be finalized next week, too?

    Yes, and Taylor will sing "developers! Developers! Develop...." Ah, that was somebody else.
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  • Reply 27 of 75
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    That's impressive I have to admit. Still, a bit away from Madonna (300 million albums). Also, Madonna holds a record she certainly is not so eager to break: with her latest album biggest second-week drop in history. image




    I know people like Madonna and Prince (neither of which I've ever understood), but is 300 million albums really that impressive when you look at Swift's age with 170 million to Madonna's age with 300 million? Taylor not only seems like a great songwriter, but has a more balance aspect to her trajectory, and seem to have a real kindness about her which seems to have led to genuine respect and friends with people in the industry. I won't touch on the fans.

    While everyone's musical taste is different and unique, I think Prince goes down in history as one of the great song writers and performers. 

     

    What is often overlooked with Prince is how many billboard hits he wrote that other people performed or covered or sampled from.

     

    His sound and style is often not enjoyed by people, but his influence on music and his genius is remarkable.

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  • Reply 28 of 75
    solipsismy wrote: »
    I know people like Madonna and Prince (neither of which I've ever understood), but is 300 million albums really that impressive when you look at Swift's age with 170 million to Madonna's age with 300 million? Taylor not only seems like a great songwriter, but has a more balance aspect to her trajectory, and seem to have a real kindness about her which seems to have led to genuine respect and friends with people in the industry. I won't touch on the fans.

    I never listened to any of those. I'm not into Poo music. What you said maybe completely true. I'm just thinking to what extent the Internet has contributed to this success. Marketing, and new sales streams such as, ahm, streaming. If she keeps up that pace she'll outsell the Beatles, Elton John and all the others. I will not judge her or her music, I remember from the time I was a bit investors lived in music that success was usually directly proportional to marketing efforts. And while I'm not following the charts since a while now I have no clue if there is someone out ther with a similar success and standing mrs Taylor appears to have.


    Btw the building looks really nice outside from an architectural pov.
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  • Reply 29 of 75

    Maybe some of the extra security and workforce is because it's such a large venue. More space simply needs more people.

     

    Maybe the rumor (I can't remember where I read it) that Apple will have an exceptionally large area this year to display newly announced products is true.

     

    Those two things alone would explain the perceived large workforce and security force.

     

    Makes sense to me anyway, just a thought.

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  • Reply 30 of 75
    I never listened to any of those. I'm not into Poo music. What you said maybe completely true. I'm just thinking to what extent the Internet has contributed to this success. Marketing, and new sales streams such as, ahm, streaming. If she keeps up that pace she'll outsell the Beatles, Elton John and all the others. I will not judge her or her music, I remember from the time I was a bit investors lived in music that success was usually directly proportional to marketing efforts. And while I'm not following the charts since a while now I have no clue if there is someone out ther with a similar success and standing mrs Taylor appears to have.

    The Internet surely has contributed positively, but you can also argue that it has also taken away. It was a surprise to the industry that her album 1989 was going to sell 1 million copies. No one else had done that in 2014, and she sold nearly 1.3 million albums in her first week, which was the most successful record debut since Eminem in 2002. People illegally download music…. especially the younger generations.

    We can also say The Beatles had a smaller audience (a couple billion less people on the planet) and it was harder to get music around, but there was also a lot less to choose from. In today's world the hyper-vigilant mind experiences constant bombardment from everywhere. It's pros and cons for each band for each era and for each genre, but there is a reason certain acts rise to the top even if we don't care for them.
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  • Reply 31 of 75
    techlover wrote: »
    I think Prince goes down in history as one of the great song writers and performers/

    Do you mean writing the music or lyrics? Personally, I find his lyrics ridiculously simplistic, repetitive, and corny.
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  • Reply 32 of 75
    Apple appears to be punking everyone; the Beta's been popping up messages telling people to download a new update which isn't available.

    I wonder if that's why they call it a beta? maybe?
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  • Reply 33 of 75
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    That's impressive I have to admit. Still, a bit away from Madonna (300 million albums). Also, Madonna holds a record she certainly is not so eager to break: with her latest album biggest second-week drop in history. image



    Edit: I guess it's albums and singles as well since Wikipedia gives her 166 million albums.

     

    Considering that Madonna sold a lot when overall sales were much higher than now, Swift is actually proportionally selling more compared to the overall market; especially Albums were she's ridiculously above the market: nobody buys albums... Except hers.. and Adeles's. seemingly

     

    Madonna is a more popular singles seller, Rihanna is more like her (though a few albums sold big in a time were that meant huge numbers). I'm a big fan of hers too; first went to a Madonna concert in 1985

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  • Reply 34 of 75
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    I think Prince goes down in history as one of the great song writers and performers/




    Do you mean writing the music or lyrics? Personally, I find his lyrics ridiculously simplistic, repetitive, and corny.

    I would say both.

     

    Again, music is so personal and opinions about it are in the ear of the beholder. I think Prince is a talented genius that influenced music quite a bit. 

     

    Most popular music is simple, repetitive and corny. That doesn't mean it is bad.

     

    The only #1 song that Prince wrote that someone else performed is "Nothing Compares To You" performed by Sinead O'Conner as far as I know. It is a great song in my personal opinion. Simple. Repetitive. Excellent. 

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  • Reply 35 of 75
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    That's impressive I have to admit. Still, a bit away from Madonna (300 million albums). Also, Madonna holds a record she certainly is not so eager to break: with her latest album biggest second-week drop in history. image



    Edit: I guess it's albums and singles as well since Wikipedia gives her 166 million albums.

     

    Considering that Madonna sold a lot when overall sales were much higher than now, Swift is actually proportionally selling more compared to the overall market; especially Albums were she's ridiculously above the market: nobody buys albums... Except hers.. and Adeles's. seemingly

     

    Madonna is a more popular singles seller, Rihanna is more like her (though a few albums sold big in a time were that meant huge numbers). I'm a big fan of hers too; first went to a Madonna concert in 1985


    Fantastic point.

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  • Reply 36 of 75
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    The three types of presses they mention seem reasonable, but The Verge states that it would be added two extra types of "touches," not just one. They list a tap, a press, and a deep press. I would think a tap is like how you currently would change a cursor in a text box and a press would be how you currently bring up the other text options, which leaves Force Touch as the only new option.



    You don't want to replace taps with presses though. That would make the user experience far less efficient and would increase fatigue. I already use tap-to-click on my trackpads and have no interest in losing that capability.

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  • Reply 37 of 75
    freediverx wrote: »

    You don't want to replace taps with presses though. That would make the user experience far less efficient and would increase fatigue.

    I don't follow. Where did I make that suggestion, if that's what you're saying?
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  • Reply 38 of 75
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    The Internet surely has contributed positively, but you can also argue that it has also taken away. It was a surprise to the industry that her album 1989 was going to sell 1 million copies. No one else had done that in 2014, and she sold nearly 1.3 million albums in her first week, which was the most successful record debut since Eminem in 2002. People illegally download music…. especially the younger generations.



    We can also say The Beatles had a smaller audience (a couple billion less people on the planet) and it was harder to get music around, but there was also a lot less to choose from. In today's world the hyper-vigilant mind experiences constant bombardment from everywhere. It's pros and cons for each band for each era and for each genre, but there is a reason certain acts rise to the top even if we don't care for them.

     

    The Beatles had a smaller market and distribution was a lot more difficult, singles needed to be physically shipped to stores and then you still have to ensure they stayed visible as long as possible. New songs tended to physically crowd out older singles right off the more visible shelves as soon as their sales faltered in that store! Those singles because of less visibility tended to have an abrupt fall in sales.

     

    Even hit songs tended to go up and down the chart in 15 weeks or less.  Distribution now is cheap and world wide, a massive advantage.

     

    Albums before the 1960s didn't tend to sell that much, except broadway cast albums which stayed on the chart for ages.

    The Beatles success exploded the sales of albums.

     

    As you noted, the main issue now is visibility. Since titles are easier to release, and they stay along a very very long time, there is basically a glut of pretty good music at any time that you can buy or listen too.

     

    Today, Beatles could put their whole catalog out, they wouldn't have to pick and choose a few singles.

    They probably would have released twice as many singles as they did at that time.

     

    Considering all of this, the Beatles  and Elvis's massive sales totals are even more impressive.

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  • Reply 39 of 75
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    I don't follow. Where did I make that suggestion, if that's what you're saying?



    Perhaps I misunderstood. Your comment seemed to suggest that the 3D touch might use taps for selections and deep presses for the equivalent of clicks.

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  • Reply 40 of 75
    If Apple is indeed working on a iCar per say, this would be the time and the place for them to show it off. Of course at the "One more thing" spot.
    They just need to show off the vehicle at the moment with videos showing off their intentions with the interior wizardry. (If they use the proving grounds to try out the Car, pictures from others will surely surface).
    That would be one reason for the tight security. If anyone would see a ramp being built to place the Car on the stage, the big surprise would be gone.
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