Large Apple logo goes up at Bill Graham Auditorium ahead of iPhone event

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  • Reply 41 of 75
    freediverx wrote: »
    Perhaps I misunderstood. Your comment seemed to suggest that the 3D touch might use taps for selections and deep presses for the equivalent of clicks.

    I'm more confused than ever. The Verge is saying there are two new kinds of touches coming, and that currently there is only one type. I argued there are two already here (tap and press) and that Force Touch would be the third. Nothing is being shuffled.
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  • Reply 42 of 75
    sog35 wrote: »
    Applehub = new AppleTv

    I just think Apple may renamed the new AppleTv so not to confuse it with the old AppleTV

    I give it a greater than 50-50 chance that if they raise the price, they will rename the product.
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  • Reply 43 of 75
    juandl wrote: »
    If Apple is indeed working on a iCar per say, this would be the time and the place for them to show it off. Of course at the "One more thing" spot.
    They just need to show off the vehicle at the moment with videos showing off their intentions with the interior wizardry. (If they use the proving grounds to try out the Car, pictures from others will surely surface).
    That would be one reason for the tight security. If anyone would see a ramp being built to place the Car on the stage, the big surprise would be gone.

    1) That's a big "one more thing."

    2) Would that advisable this early on? I can't imagine they have anything ready for production in the next year. Of course, such an endeavour could require Apple altering it model since you can't hide an iPhone as easily as an entire automobile.
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  • Reply 44 of 75
    solipsismy wrote: »
    Speaking of Swift, will Swift 2.0 be finalized next week, too?

    That's a good question!

    The version 2.0 Language Spec almost has to be finalized to meet a fall Open Source release.


    The way the game is played, I suspect that an announcement of a Swift 2 release dates and a new Swift 3.0 spec is not far behind (though not at this event).


    Swift 3.0 will, likely, have some new APIs for new hardware & features as well as Cloud Services (IBM, Apple, others), gaming engines, etc.

    At some point, in the not too distant future, Apple will have completed reimplementing its current APIs for Swift -- and start implementing new APIs in Swift only. That would mean that existing Obj-C apps would (at a minimum) need to include Swift modules to access the latest features.


    Now, back to the discussions at hand:

    My daughter tells me that Taylor Swift has a concert sheduleded the evening of the 9th:


    1000


    So, She may perform early in he event to not be rushed for her later show ... sort of an Entr'acte for the tech presos!


    Boom ... Boom ... Boom!
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  • Reply 45 of 75
    solipsismy wrote: »
    Speaking of Swift, will Swift 2.0 be finalized next week, too?

    Yes, and Taylor will sing "developers! Developers! Develop...." Ah, that was somebody else.


    Mmmm ... A sweaty, balding Taylor Swift bouncing around the stage ...

    The mind conjure and the stomach turns!
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  • Reply 46 of 75
    Prince had an album 1999 which is 10 better than Taylor Swift's
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  • Reply 47 of 75
    So, She may perform early in he event to not be rushed for her later show ... sort of an Entr'acte for the tech presos!

    When this obvious rumour first cropped up that was the big reason it couldn't happen, but let's remember that Swift from a close private airport at each location on a private jet, only going from TX to CA is quite doable. Certainly not the most relaxing of options but I'm sure she's done this sort of thing before, and probably with a show the night before, whereas in this case, according to your screenshot, she has a show tonight and then nothing until Wed night. It's not like she'd have to set up the stage and with modern technology she can be both not the phone and on the internet whilst in the air. So it's very doable, but honestly I don't care either way if she performs. Personally I would prefer there was no band (ever!) just more stuff to make like more efficient.
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  • Reply 48 of 75
    juandl wrote: »
    If Apple is indeed working on a iCar per say, this would be the time and the place for them to show it off. Of course at the "One more thing" spot.
    They just need to show off the vehicle at the moment with videos showing off their intentions with the interior wizardry. (If they use the proving grounds to try out the Car, pictures from others will surely surface).
    That would be one reason for the tight security. If anyone would see a ramp being built to place the Car on the stage, the big surprise would be gone.

    The lead time for developing a car is more than two, three years, especially when starting from scratch and/or introducing a lot of new technology. Tesla for example, was founded in 2003 and the roadster saw the light of day in 2008. And that's fast and included support from Daimler and Toyota.
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  • Reply 49 of 75
    foggyhill wrote: »
    The Beatles had a smaller market and distribution was a lot more difficult, singles needed to be physically shipped to stores and then you still have to ensure they stayed visible as long as possible. New songs tended to physically crowd out older singles right off the more visible shelves as soon as their sales faltered in that store! Those singles because of less visibility tended to have an abrupt fall in sales.

    Even hit songs tended to go up and down the chart in 15 weeks or less.  Distribution now is cheap and world wide, a massive advantage.

    Albums before the 1960s didn't tend to sell that much, except broadway cast albums which stayed on the chart for ages.
    The Beatles success exploded the sales of albums.

    As you noted, the main issue now is visibility. Since titles are easier to release, and they stay along a very very long time, there is basically a glut of pretty good music at any time that you can buy or listen too.

    Today, Beatles could put their whole catalog out, they wouldn't have to pick and choose a few singles.
    They probably would have released twice as many singles as they did at that time.

    Considering all of this, the Beatles  and Elvis's massive sales totals are even more impressive.

    Visibility: that's what Apple Music is for. I hope it works out.
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  • Reply 50 of 75
    The lead time for developing a car is more than two, three years, especially when starting from scratch and/or introducing a lot of new technology. Tesla for example, was founded in 2003 and the roadster saw the light of day in 2008. And that's fast and included support from Daimler and Toyota.

    I agree it's fast, but I'm curious what took Tesla the most time to figure out, design, build and test. If it's the battery array and other electronics, I would then argue that Apple already has a huge leg up on Tesla in 2003 because of their history of being electronics, advancements in the field, as well as all the patents Tesla gave away.
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  • Reply 51 of 75
    solipsismy wrote: »
    When this obvious rumour first cropped up that was the big reason it couldn't happen, but let's remember that Swift from a close private airport at each location on a private jet, only going from TX to CA is quite doable. Certainly not the most relaxing of options but I'm sure she's done this sort of thing before, and probably with a show the night before, whereas in this case, according to your screenshot, she has a show tonight and then nothing until Wed night. It's not like she'd have to set up the stage and with modern technology she can be both not the phone and on the internet whilst in the air. So it's very doable, but honestly I don't care either way if she performs. Personally I would prefer there was no band (ever!) just more stuff to make like more efficient.

    The more I think of it the more it sounds reasonable.
    First of all, because I would expect that somehow it would have leaked that about 5000 more journalists are invited than normal.
    Then, for the reasons you have stated.
    Thirdly, because I can't think of a release that would be "3.5 times more important" than what's in the pipeline. The most important recently was the watch. And that wasn't revealed to such a huge crowd.
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  • Reply 52 of 75
    nolamacguy wrote: »
    I wonder if that's why they call it a beta? maybe?

    A beta doesn't mean "inherently broken", and having something occur more than a month after release means it's likely not an issue with the code, but with a mess up on Apple's end.
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  • Reply 53 of 75
    You Young 'uns ...

    In my day, the premier singer, songwriter, lyricist was Johnny Mercer:

    [U][B][SIZE=4]Academy Awards[/SIZE][/B][/U]

    Mercer won four Academy Awards on eighteen nominations for Best Original Song:

    1946: "On the Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe" (music by Harry Warren) for The Harvey Girls
    1951: "In the Cool, Cool, Cool of the Evening" (music by Hoagy Carmichael) for Here Comes the Groom
    1961: "Moon River" (music by Henry Mancini) for Breakfast at Tiffany's
    1962: "Days of Wine and Roses" (music by Henry Mancini) for Days of Wine and Roses


    [B][U][SIZE=4]Songs[/SIZE][/U][/B]

    He wrote many other songs, some of which have entered the Great American Songbook:


    [U][B][SIZE=4]Lyrics by Mercer, unless noted.[/SIZE][/B][/U]

    Date Song title Music by Notes

    1933 "Lazy Bones" Hoagy Carmichael
    1934 "Moon Dreams" Chummy MacGregor (co-writer)
    1934 "P.S. I Love You" Gordon Jenkins
    1936 "Goody Goody" Matty Malneck
    1936 "I'm an Old Cowhand from the Rio Grande" Johnny Mercer
    1937 "Hooray for Hollywood" Richard A. Whiting
    1937 "Too Marvelous for Words" Richard A. Whiting
    1938 "Jeepers, Creepers!" Harry Warren
    1938 "You Must Have Been a Beautiful Baby" Harry Warren
    1939 "And the Angels Sing" Ziggy Elman
    1939 "Cuckoo in the Clock" Walter Donaldson
    1939 "Day In, Day Out" Rube Bloom
    1939 "I Thought About You" Jimmy Van Heusen
    1939 "Wings Over the Navy" Harry Warren
    1940 "Fools Rush In" Rube Bloom
    1941 "Blues in the Night" Harold Arlen
    1941? "I Had Myself a True Love" Harold Arlen
    1941 "I Remember You" Victor Schertzinger
    1941 "Tangerine" Victor Schertzinger
    1941 "This Time the Dream's on Me" Harold Arlen
    1942 "Dearly Beloved" Jerome Kern
    1942 "Hit the Road to Dreamland" Harold Arlen
    1942 "I'm Old Fashioned" Jerome Kern
    1942 "Skylark" Hoagy Carmichael
    1942 "That Old Black Magic" Harold Arlen
    1942 "Trav'lin' Light" Jimmy Mundy, Trummy Young
    1943 "Dream" Johnny Mercer
    1943 "My Shining Hour" Harold Arlen
    1943 "One for My Baby (and One More for the Road)" Harold Arlen Theme song of the 1957–1958 NBC detective series, Meet McGraw, starring Frank Lovejoy
    1944 "Ac-Cent-Tchu-Ate the Positive" Harold Arlen
    1944 "G.I. Jive" Johnny Mercer
    1945 "Laura" David Raksin
    1945 "Out of This World" Harold Arlen
    1946 "Any Place I Hang My Hat Is Home" Harold Arlen
    1946 "Come Rain or Come Shine" Harold Arlen
    1946 "On the Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe" Harry Warren For the film The Harvey Girls
    1947 "Autumn Leaves" Joseph Kosma, orig. French lyrics by Jacques Prévert
    1951 "In the Cool, Cool, Cool of the Evening" Hoagy Carmichael For the film Here Comes the Groom
    1952 "I Wanna Be a Dancing Man" Harry Warren
    1952 "The Glow-Worm" Paul Lincke
    1953 "Satin Doll" Duke Ellington, Billy Strayhorn
    1954 "Midnight Sun" Lionel Hampton, Sonny Burke
    1954 "Something's Gotta Give" Johnny Mercer
    1956 "I'm Past My Prime" Gene de Paul
    1956 "Jubilation T. Cornpone" Gene de Paul
    1959 "I Wanna Be Around" Johnny Mercer, Sadie Vimmerstedt
    1961 "Moon River" Henry Mancini For the film Breakfast at Tiffany's
    1962 "Days of Wine and Roses" Henry Mancini For the film Days of Wine and Roses
    1962 "Drinking Again" Doris Tauber
    1963 "Charade" Henry Mancini
    1964 "Emily" Johnny Mandel
    1964 "Lorna" Mort Lindsey
    1965 "Summer Wind" Henry Mayer
    1970 "Whistling Away the Dark" Henry Mancini For the film Darling Lili
    1973 "The Phony King of England" For the Disney film Robin Hood
    1984 "When October Goes" Barry Manilow


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Mercer


    Not bad for 5 decades spanning many genres!


    They didn't do covers in those days -- but many artists would take a song and make it their own (songwriters and lyricists were compensated based on sales).


    Here's on example of a Mercer song that was recorded by everybody:


    [VIDEO]
     


     
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  • Reply 54 of 75
    @Dick; you indeed made me feel young for a moment. Doesn't happen so often these days ;)
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  • Reply 55 of 75
    @Dick; you indeed made me feel young for a moment. Doesn't happen so often these days ;)


    Ha!

    Then, of course you'll remember the cannibal song by Hank Williams, Sr.


    [VIDEO]
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  • Reply 56 of 75
    foggyhill wrote: »

    (Taylor Swift) She's sold 170M+ album and singles in 9 years, so I'm guessing it is not just 13 years old buying them.... She's filled the staple center in LA 17 times in a row (a record), that's a lot (350K) of paying fans in a few weeks. Even though her concerts do skew young and female (tweens, teens, young adults and their mother); those that buy her music though are a much more varied bunch.

    Only Rihanna's in the same league as her in that period. Rihanna has sold 190M records in the 10 years since she's started her career.

    #3 during that period is Katy Perry (90M), 100M records away from Rihanna and 80M away from Swift.

    Neither of them hold a candle to how many albums iTunes shipped of U2's last album... like half a billion! U2 also holds the record for, most free albums returned. The girls can't compete with a group of old guys!
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  • Reply 57 of 75
    foggyhill wrote: »

    (Taylor Swift) She's sold 170M+ album and singles in 9 years, so I'm guessing it is not just 13 years old buying them.... She's filled the staple center in LA 17 times in a row (a record), that's a lot (350K) of paying fans in a few weeks. Even though her concerts do skew young and female (tweens, teens, young adults and their mother); those that buy her music though are a much more varied bunch.

    Only Rihanna's in the same league as her in that period. Rihanna has sold 190M records in the 10 years since she's started her career.

    #3 during that period is Katy Perry (90M), 100M records away from Rihanna and 80M away from Swift.

    Neither of them hold a candle to how many albums iTunes shipped of U2's last album... like half a billion! U2 also holds the record for, most free albums returned. The girls can't compete with a group of old guys!


    LOL!


    According to Sammy, returns count as shipments -- only the destination is different!
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  • Reply 58 of 75
    Mmmm ... A sweaty, balding Taylor Swift bouncing around the stage ...

    The mind conjure and the stomach turns!

    So, Miley Cyrus.
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  • Reply 59 of 75
    solipsismy wrote: »
    I agree it's fast, but I'm curious what took Tesla the most time to figure out, design, build and test. If it's the battery array and other electronics, I would then argue that Apple already has a huge leg up on Tesla in 2003 because of their history of being electronics, advancements in the field, as well as all the patents Tesla gave away.

    On the technology side, cooling the batteries, and power management software. On the the business side, mass production and building a car company from scratch. The tech for AC motors and batteries is fundamentally simple and well understood. There's also a minefield of auto safety regulations and testing, but you can hire people to crank through that paperwork. What Tesla did was amazing, given that the auto industry was pretty staid and slow to change, aka "mature."
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  • Reply 60 of 75
    On the technology side, cooling the batteries, and power management software. On the the business side, mass production and building a car company from scratch. The tech for AC motors and batteries is fundamentally simple and well understood. There's also a minefield of auto safety regulations and testing, but you can hire people to crank through that paperwork. What Tesla did was amazing, given that the auto industry was pretty staid and slow to change, aka "mature."

    I agree.
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