Your investors expect to make money off of this film, Sorkin. With a purported $30 million budget you're damn right people are expecting to capitalize on it and expect you to do the most as a writer/creator with this opportunity, you opportunist.
Who i'm sure will get a percentage of the proceeds!
There are literally hundreds of people that worked on this film. You're going to let one guy who has absolutely no ill affect on you get to you that much? These are millionaires exchanging words. Both of them are opportunistic.
Excuse me ... you are calling Tim an opportunist for being cynical about the making of endless S J movies?
+1 Best comment so far. I will wait for some real reviews to come out, then make my choice. I will almost certainly see it on cable after it is on the premium channels.
Worst comment so far! Calling Tim an opportunist? Really?
By controlling the Apple corporate image, Cook stands to personally earn more than the total revenue from all of Sorkin's films combined. Who's the opportunist then? Whatever you think, Cook is certainly not an impartial bystander.
Doing the best job he can for the share holders isn't being opportunist!
"Oscar-winning screenwriter Aaron Sorkin slammed Tim Cook in a recent interview for comments the Apple CEO made regarding authors, filmmakers and documentarians focusing on the life and times of Steve Jobs."
Oh Goody! A pissing contest between millionaires. Just what we need! I suggest we all just stand back...
Answered already but the two are hardly comparable in the context of Apple which is what this is about.
What's sad is that clueless people and the anti-Apple media will parrot the 17¢ lie as if it is irrefutable fact. What a total self important douche bag.
It seems hypocritical if you don't think about it enough. Sorkin's statement is counting on people to be misinformed and have a knee-jerk reaction. But it's actually not hypocritical. Sorkin is opportunistic because he's riding on Job's fame and success and putting him down. In my mind this kind of opportunism is just negative attention seeking and moral grandstanding.
In stark contrast to this, Apple's 'opportunism' has improved the lives of millions - both those who work for the company (the not children at not $0.17/hr) as well as the end users of the product. This is incredibly value creating and a very positive thing. And it's pretty much the opposite from what Sorkin is doing, which doesn't improve anyone's life except his own. Sorkin is in fact the hypocrite here.
Are half the people here too dumb to understand that Tim ACTUALLY in REAL LIFE knew and spent almost everyday with Steve Jobs? They were practically best friends toward the end of Jobs' life.
Yet Tim is somehow in the wrong here...HOW?
HE ACTUALLY KNEW STEVE. HE'S THE CEO OF HIS COMPANY IN CASE SOME OF YOU S*** FOR BRAINS DID NOT KNOW.
Who is Sork to Jobs?
I don't think any Apple fan should watch this movie. That last comment was slander and a flat out LIE. If Sork cared so much about these "children" he wouldn't have made a movie about Jobs.
I don't believe in speaking ill of the dead, and do think people should wait a respectable amount of time before making movies about dead people, especially if they're going to make a disrespectful one.
If Sorkin really cares about Chinese workers, he should promise to donate the 3 million he deferred for writing the film, and all profits he will receive from the film, to advocates for tougher labor laws and workers rights in China.
Sometimes, you only need one quote to expose someone as a nasty scumbag of a human being, this being one of them. This guy wrote the script for a movie called "Steve Jobs" that will be viewed by millions of eyeballs- I somehow doubt he is grotesquely ignorant enough to believe the "factories of full of children being paid $0.17/hr" bullshit. So, he is purposely lying, knowing that his lie will be widely read- in order to smear Cook, and smear everyone who works at Apple- and of course, smear Jobs' legacy.
That's filth of the highest order. And we're supposed to want to watch a movie about Apple written by this guy? Who clearly already has an extremely negative bias against SJ and his company, and is willing to make up grotesque lies in order to further this negativity, while doing all he can to tarnish the legacy of Apple's dead founder? Right.
Regardless of either of their comments there's no denying that Apple and other huge comapnies have exploited cheap labor overseas to make hundreds of billions in profits while screwing over the American workforce.
There's zero patriotism in that.
Oh please, give it a fk'n rest. What BS. Apple could not possibly do what they do here in the US. There is no way in hell to ramp up going from 0 to millions of units a week in the US manufacturing and labor environment. That process includes adding hundreds of thousands of employees, as well as thousands of engineers and skilled trades, almost overnight. The scale and flexibility far surpasses our ability. As to cheap labor, those workers are now making more per month on average than recent college graduates in China due to rapid increases in wages over the last few years. Lastly, so those people don't deserve jobs? If I were you I'd be more concerned about the robber baron bankers that have their hands in your pockets every time you make a transaction, and oh by the way, created an international financial crisis hurting us all.
By controlling the Apple corporate image, Cook stands to personally earn more than the total revenue from all of Sorkin's films combined. Who's the opportunist then? Whatever you think, Cook is certainly not an impartial bystander.
What is the 'corporate image' that Apple needs to 'control'? That Jobs was a tough guy, could be heartless, and a control freak? You think no one really knows that?
Regardless of either of their comments there's no denying that Apple and other huge comapnies have exploited cheap labor overseas to make hundreds of billions in profits while screwing over the American workforce.
There's zero patriotism in that.
And you don't think the millions of jobs in the US that are created by and benefit from cheaper electronics count? Just the Apple app store alone is responsible for about a billion dollars a month in wages to US developers. We keep the good jobs here, and outsource the lousy ones.
Correction to Sorkin's quote "No one...except for myself, Paramount pictures, the London post production crew, etc....did this to get rich." That takes one stupid man to lie about Apple labor practices, lie about his financial motive and lie to his audience when he portrays jobs as a maniacal tyrant fueled by profit and greed (I've seen his lousy documentary). It's no wonder everyone at Apple claims his movie is "opportunistic" - that's code for pile of shit.
Oh please, give it a fk'n rest. What BS. Apple could not possibly do what they do here in the US. There is no way in hell to ramp up going from 0 to millions of units a week in the US manufacturing and labor environment. That process includes adding hundreds of thousands of employees, as well as thousands of engineers and skilled trades, almost overnight. The scale and flexibility far surpasses our ability. As to cheap labor, those workers are now making more per month on average than recent college graduates in China due to rapid increases in wages over the last few years. Lastly, so those people don't deserve jobs? If I were you I'd be more concerned about the robber baron bankers that have their hands in your pockets every time you make a transaction, and oh by the way, created an international financial crisis hurting us all.
Are you telling me the USA, the greatest country in thew world, can't do what they're doing in China? Really?
Apple has $190 BILLION stashed in Ireland theyuu haven't paid taxes on.
Tim Cook is worth hundreds of Millions.
Look I know all these huge corps do it but this article is specifically talking about Apple.
But no one is making them create hundreds of thousands of jobs overseas instead of here. We all have a choice.
On the other hand, I don't agree that child labor should be automatically a disqualifier for Chinese companies. So long as they can prove that the kids are not being forced to work there, factory work is the only means to a fast way out of crushing poverty for much of the Chinese population. Child labor in the US used to be common. It's just a part of the economic growth curve. As workers with greater skills become necessary and wage rates start to rise across the board due to labor shortages, the use of child labor diminishes significantly. In fact, in the US wages had already risen significantly and the use of child labor was on the wane before unions became dominant. They took advantage of the rising economic power available to an in-demand labor force. Unions did not cause all of the mythical "good" with which they are credited.
Growing up in the 60's and 70's I was expected as were millions of boys (and even girls sometimes) to have small jobs mowing lawns, shoveling driveways, raking leaves, later a paper route. I find it an absolute crucial reason for any success I had later in life.
While my early jobs were by no means necessary for my families survival, NOT working was also not a choice my father gave me. Much/most of my earnings were matched much later on by my parents, but they never gave me the illusion that would be the case, so I had to learn to save and bargain.
Question: are the above experinces now being considered and lumped as "child labor" in the US? And considering one of the largest productivity, technology, and economic booms was created by our generation, could it be that due to unforced child labor, that China might experience the same in few years? That this is simply China's version of the manufacturing and Baby Boom years experienced in the West, to give way to the technology leaders and innovative businesses of tomorrow?
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Your investors expect to make money off of this film, Sorkin. With a purported $30 million budget you're damn right people are expecting to capitalize on it and expect you to do the most as a writer/creator with this opportunity, you opportunist.
Who i'm sure will get a percentage of the proceeds!
Excuse me ... you are calling Tim an opportunist for being cynical about the making of endless S J movies?
Worst comment so far! Calling Tim an opportunist? Really?
Doing the best job he can for the share holders isn't being opportunist!
Answered already but the two are hardly comparable in the context of Apple which is what this is about.
In stark contrast to this, Apple's 'opportunism' has improved the lives of millions - both those who work for the company (the not children at not $0.17/hr) as well as the end users of the product. This is incredibly value creating and a very positive thing. And it's pretty much the opposite from what Sorkin is doing, which doesn't improve anyone's life except his own. Sorkin is in fact the hypocrite here.
Yet Tim is somehow in the wrong here...HOW?
HE ACTUALLY KNEW STEVE. HE'S THE CEO OF HIS COMPANY IN CASE SOME OF YOU S*** FOR BRAINS DID NOT KNOW.
Who is Sork to Jobs?
I don't think any Apple fan should watch this movie. That last comment was slander and a flat out LIE. If Sork cared so much about these "children" he wouldn't have made a movie about Jobs.
Count me in "Not gonna see this movie" group. Good Job Sorkin.
And I won't see any ones you'll associate with from now on.
I don't believe in speaking ill of the dead, and do think people should wait a respectable amount of time before making movies about dead people, especially if they're going to make a disrespectful one.
If you make it too soon then it is opportunism.
If Sorkin really cares about Chinese workers, he should promise to donate the 3 million he deferred for writing the film, and all profits he will receive from the film, to advocates for tougher labor laws and workers rights in China.
Sometimes, you only need one quote to expose someone as a nasty scumbag of a human being, this being one of them. This guy wrote the script for a movie called "Steve Jobs" that will be viewed by millions of eyeballs- I somehow doubt he is grotesquely ignorant enough to believe the "factories of full of children being paid $0.17/hr" bullshit. So, he is purposely lying, knowing that his lie will be widely read- in order to smear Cook, and smear everyone who works at Apple- and of course, smear Jobs' legacy.
That's filth of the highest order. And we're supposed to want to watch a movie about Apple written by this guy? Who clearly already has an extremely negative bias against SJ and his company, and is willing to make up grotesque lies in order to further this negativity, while doing all he can to tarnish the legacy of Apple's dead founder? Right.
^^^
What is the 'corporate image' that Apple needs to 'control'? That Jobs was a tough guy, could be heartless, and a control freak? You think no one really knows that?
What an utterly moronic comment.
Regardless of either of their comments there's no denying that Apple and other huge comapnies have exploited cheap labor overseas to make hundreds of billions in profits while screwing over the American workforce.
There's zero patriotism in that.
And you don't think the millions of jobs in the US that are created by and benefit from cheaper electronics count? Just the Apple app store alone is responsible for about a billion dollars a month in wages to US developers. We keep the good jobs here, and outsource the lousy ones.
Oh please, give it a fk'n rest. What BS. Apple could not possibly do what they do here in the US. There is no way in hell to ramp up going from 0 to millions of units a week in the US manufacturing and labor environment. That process includes adding hundreds of thousands of employees, as well as thousands of engineers and skilled trades, almost overnight. The scale and flexibility far surpasses our ability. As to cheap labor, those workers are now making more per month on average than recent college graduates in China due to rapid increases in wages over the last few years. Lastly, so those people don't deserve jobs? If I were you I'd be more concerned about the robber baron bankers that have their hands in your pockets every time you make a transaction, and oh by the way, created an international financial crisis hurting us all.
Are you telling me the USA, the greatest country in thew world, can't do what they're doing in China? Really?
Apple has $190 BILLION stashed in Ireland theyuu haven't paid taxes on.
Tim Cook is worth hundreds of Millions.
Look I know all these huge corps do it but this article is specifically talking about Apple.
But no one is making them create hundreds of thousands of jobs overseas instead of here. We all have a choice.
Growing up in the 60's and 70's I was expected as were millions of boys (and even girls sometimes) to have small jobs mowing lawns, shoveling driveways, raking leaves, later a paper route. I find it an absolute crucial reason for any success I had later in life.
While my early jobs were by no means necessary for my families survival, NOT working was also not a choice my father gave me. Much/most of my earnings were matched much later on by my parents, but they never gave me the illusion that would be the case, so I had to learn to save and bargain.
Question: are the above experinces now being considered and lumped as "child labor" in the US? And considering one of the largest productivity, technology, and economic booms was created by our generation, could it be that due to unforced child labor, that China might experience the same in few years? That this is simply China's version of the manufacturing and Baby Boom years experienced in the West, to give way to the technology leaders and innovative businesses of tomorrow?