Rumor: Second-gen Apple Watch on track for launch by June of 2016

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  • Reply 61 of 76
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,693member
    These imaginary people will be unhappy because the rumored next watch will be out in a rumored 6 months and will have some hypothetical specs and imagined features that these imaginary people would have wanted in the watch they received as a gift because imaginary people are always glass-half-empty when it comes to receiving gifts they didn't pay for.

    I think that's a little pessimistic ... :D
  • Reply 62 of 76
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    smcarter wrote: »
    To clarify, I specified 10 meters, because of possible issues of pressure. Actually depth would be 1 meter or less.

    I use a watch while swimming to check time, calories consumed, laps, bpm, etc. I have a Swimovate watch, but it lacks the elegance of the Apple Watch and doesn't communicate with the iOS Health app.

    Waterfi has come out with a waterproof Apple Watch; however, as other have mentioned, there are no apps for swimming. Perhaps there will be one now that WaterFi has a solution.

    http://waterfi.com/waterproof-apple-watch-sport

    My thought is if Waterfi was able to waterproof the Apple Watch, why can't Apple?

    While Waterfi is better than nothing, I wouldn't be the first to spend the money, unless I had the money to lose. Their process basically pumps glue into the innards, sealing everything. Not sure how that works with a replaceable battery. Either way, they used to offer an iPod nano, but they were never able to adequately water proof it, and had so many warranty issues with it they dropped it quickly. The shuffle is a much simpler device, and so they are able to effectively water proof it.

    This is a poor mans way to water proof something. A Rolex is not pumped full of sealant to achieve IPX8 ratings. And that is not what I would expect Apple to do either. Real water resistance takes more care and work than Apple is willing to put into the first generation product.
  • Reply 63 of 76
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    smcarter wrote: »
    They need to make it waterproof to at least 10 feet depth, so that swimmers could use it safely. Except for that flaw, I'm extremely happy with my Apple Watch..
    You guys with your arbitrary depths need to take a physics lesson. The depth is not the primary issue, it's the force applied. Even if an ?Watch were rated to sit at the bottom of a 10 foot tank of static water for an hour, it's not the same as swimming a 200 meter butterfly. And that's definitely not enough protection for diving even into shallow water. ipx8 testing goes way beyond simple depth tests, including temperature and salinity. So Apple needs to do more than certify it to withstand submersion of "at least 10 feet" for swimmers, in order to guarantee it for swimming.
  • Reply 64 of 76
    smcarter wrote: »
    To clarify, I specified 10 meters, because of possible issues of pressure. Actually depth would be 1 meter or less.

    I use a watch while swimming to check time, calories consumed, laps, bpm, etc. I have a Swimovate watch, but it lacks the elegance of the Apple Watch and doesn't communicate with the iOS Health app.

    Waterfi has come out with a waterproof Apple Watch; however, as other have mentioned, there are no apps for swimming. Perhaps there will be one now that WaterFi has a solution.

    http://waterfi.com/waterproof-apple-watch-sport

    My thought is if Waterfi was able to waterproof the Apple Watch, why can't Apple?

    Neat!
  • Reply 65 of 76
    why-why- Posts: 305member

    I don't like the look to be perfectly honest. They seem to focus a lot on the fitness aspect of the Watch, but it's not very streamlined or sleek looking. But then at other times they seem to push the watch aspect of the device, but aside from the crown it's not like any watch I've ever seen.

  • Reply 66 of 76
    I think that's a little pessimistic ... :D

    You mean unlike the rest of this thread? This thread is a celebration of glass half emptyism.
  • Reply 67 of 76
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,693member
    You mean unlike the rest of this thread? This thread is a celebration of glass half emptyism.

    Sometimes a joke doesn't need explaining. Rarely on AI I admit. :D
  • Reply 68 of 76
    I wonder if this will be similar to what happened with the original iPad. The 2nd generation was a big improvement in terms of thinness, weight, and power. I'd be interested if they could make the Watch faster and thinner while keeping the same battery life. I guess I'll wait until next year when the leaks of the new generation Apple Watch start happening.
  • Reply 69 of 76
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Solar Saves View Post



    Since the size of the watch limits the technology that can be crammed inside, I expect that additional functionality will be added through the watchband connectors. They should be able to make bands with extra batteries, antennas, and whatever chips that can be placed within the thickness of a watchband. And there are some big watchbands out there...



    Yep! I had suggested adding more juice through the watchband long ago. I am surprised the after market hasn't taken up on that idea. Now we know that there are data port by the strap connector. I can see Apple offloading some stuff onto watchbands - Cameras (front and back facing), small screen, touchpoint, etc.

  • Reply 70 of 76
    cornchipcornchip Posts: 1,942member
    designr wrote: »
    This.

    Especially in the modern (Steve Jobs 2.0) era and beyond, Apple has become very disciplined about product development and roll out. They don't wait for the product to be absolutely perfect. They ship when it's ready now, and then evolve it in a disciplined and strategic way.

    I guess we designers think alike ????
  • Reply 71 of 76
    radster360 wrote: »

    Yep! I had suggested adding more juice through the watchband long ago. I am surprised the after market hasn't taken up on that idea. Now we know that there are data port by the strap connector. I can see Apple offloading some stuff onto watchbands - Cameras (front and back facing), small screen, touchpoint, etc.

    With the location of the port, in relation to the notch that locks in bands, I suspect this is more difficult than it would seem at first glance. I don't see how a band could simultaneously push into the port AND lock into place.
  • Reply 72 of 76
    brucemcbrucemc Posts: 1,541member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrMac85 View Post

    I wonder if this will be similar to what happened with the original iPad. The 2nd generation was a big improvement in terms of thinness, weight, and power. I'd be interested if they could make the Watch faster and thinner while keeping the same battery life. I guess I'll wait until next year when the leaks of the new generation Apple Watch start happening.

    Many people on this forum say that they find the watch "way too thick / bulky", but to that I respond:

    - It is thinner and smaller than most mechanical watches

    - It is thinner and smaller than other smart watches (excluding pure fitness trackers)

    - Due to the strap connecting in the middle, it pulls the bottom bulge into your wrist a bit (important for the heat rate measurement), and thus it does not sit as high as other watches.

    - Weight is a non issue.

     

    It is definitely the case that you need to try it on to really see.

     

    I will agree (as a watch owner for 5 months) that a little bit thinner would be even more enjoyable (easier going under the shirt cuffs), but given that (to me) it is not bulky at all, I definitely want more functionality and better battery life.  

  • Reply 73 of 76
    thomprthompr Posts: 1,521member
    sziehr said:

    So there are going to be some very unhappy apple watch christmas gift getters. 

     

    I am surprised that apple would update this so soon vs. do it like the apple tv let it go for a cycle and make a splash. 

    They said the exact same thing about the original iPad and its successor.  Nobody cared, and they both sold like hotcakes.
  • Reply 74 of 76
    thomprthompr Posts: 1,521member

    drewys808 said:
    1. 2016 update sounds great! Doesn't seem like the current iteration is appealing enough.
    2. Updates needed: longer battery life, thinner and GPS.
    3. Updates hopeful: an "always on" setting and a water proof version.
     
    For AW to hit mainstream, it really needs to be always on. A watch is a fashion statement, which is hard to make when it's a blank screen 80% of the time. Hopefully battery life and screen technology can resolve this?
    My hunch is that the  Watch is a long way from being able to support "always on".
  • Reply 75 of 76
    tjwolftjwolf Posts: 424member
    I love my Apple Watch.  But less since it completely cracked after dropping out of my locker 3-4' onto a tile floor.  My fault - I hadn't counted on a "Sport" watch being so fragile.  Lesson learned the hard way (I slapped a screen protector on it to protect *me* from the broken glass - im not paying $200 for a replacement screen!)

    So my wish is obvious: a sturdier model - hopefully one that allows for the sport of swimming - i.e. Is water resistant!
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