Look like Apple is going with budget route even with potential buyers wanting a flagship 4" iPhone. If it fails, Apple will say the 4" did not sell well! LOL!
Disagree. I'm not sure if that will be the name either but it's definitely not nonsense.
If you consider that the purpose of making this thing is to provide a 4" form factor for that segment of apple's market that refuses to change to the newer, larger phones, then emphasizing that the technology inside is "older" is a good way to frame the device. As in, "Here is a version of your old phone that has the new capabilities, but is still essentially an 'old' phone." It's like Apple telling people that they can have this thing, but that they aren't running with the pack if this is their choice.
Releasing it mid-year (if they do) also sets it apart from the main line of phones and marks it as a "special." That's why "iPhone 5se" might make sense too. It's a special edition for that tiny group of people that like the "old-style" phones.
Finally, it also covers their ass in regards the (almost inevitable) performance degradation involved. If they used a 6 or 7 series moniker, then the phone will be compared to the other 6's and 7's, whereas this way, it will be compared to the 5's instead. The only way it makes sense to give it a 6 or 7 name, is if it truly is the new "third size" and that iPhone will be moving forward with those three sizes in future models. This seems unlikely at this time.
Be prepared for "If you have an iPhone 5 or 5s, this is your upgrade!" kind of articles after it's released. All the wise technorati will post articles about how lame it is compared to the latest and greatest but "If you've been waiting for a new 4" model, this is it!" And they will be right.
I don't think it will be cheap either. If they wanted to make it even the (meagre) hundred bucks cheaper of the 5c, they would have moved forward with the plastic casings that were leaked in photos last year. Obviously, Apple changed their minds on a plastic "iPhone 6c" at that point and is now moving forward with a higher quality device. As tight-fisted and money-grubbing as Apple is lately, I wouldn't be surprised if this new phone will actually be the cause of a rise in iPhone prices in that it not only won't be cheaper, but the other models might go up by a hundred as well.
thing is the 5s is a solid phone that still runs well. If apple want us holdouts to upgrade then the new 4 inch needs to be a compelling upgrade not just a meager slapped together no heart design.
5se says to the buyer they literally phoned it in so just keep your current 5 till it dies.
The numbers across apple lines are getting rediculous anyway they should just drop them give each product a name and a year.
Look like Apple is going with budget route even with potential buyers wanting a flagship 4" iPhone. If it fails, Apple will say the 4" did not sell well! LOL!
Which is why they likely won't offer the "5se" without selling a "6c" too. Doing so would be to leave a lot of money on the table from customers who can easily afford more.
How about this ... Apple gave the iPod Touch significant updates and still lowered the price $50-$100. What if Apple is essentially repackaging 3 year old tech, upgrading the processor, adding Touch ID and NFC, and planning to sell it for $400? Then offering the "6c", a repackaged 6S without 3D Touch, for $500? That would make a lot more sense. Then if they sell well, introduce a "7c" during Spring 2017 for $600.
Apple's new, smaller iPhone model expected to launch in the coming months will be a "special edition" version of the iPhone 5s, and will accordingly be named the "iPhone 5se," a new rumor claims. ...
Aside from that, the device is expected to have many of the same components as the iPhone 6, including an A8 processor, 8-megapixel camera, and an NFC chip for Apple Pay. The device is rumored to come in color options of space gray, silver, gold, and rose gold.
In addition, the "iPhone 5se" is expected to feature a 4-inch Retina display largely identical to the panel found on the currently available iPhone 5s. In line with earlier reports, the display is not expected to feature pressure sensitive 3D Touch input. ...
This is the phone (except maybe the curved screen) that everyone wanted instead of following the phablet trend by the Android vendors. Just make it thicker and have a longer battery life and we'll be set.
When I was visiting my parents this Christmas, my mom made a big deal about how her Nokia phone only needs to be charged once a week. See THIS is the target audience that Apple completely misses. My dad has an even less-featured phone, I only got him to grab something more fancy so it would work with his car's bluetooth system. But I can't convince my parents to get smartphones because they don't want to pay 100$/mo to the local wireless cabal when they can get away with a 10$ prepaid card every month.
My parents use text messaging more than I do, because their beer-buddies all have smartphones.
While there is definitely a market for a phone this size - it's not the one "everyone wanted". The market for this sized phone is significant - yet smaller than those that wanted a larger one. Your parents and other feature phone users are not part of a market segment that Apple has missed due to an oversight. It's one that they have chosen not to participate in.
Why does BMW sell series 3 5 and 7, how confusting is it really? Not much.
Dumb anology. The 3/5/7 Series don't change their name every two years like an iPhone. IMO Apple should just have an iPhone, iPhone Plus and iPhone Pro in the three sizes. Simples.
I'm just scratching my head and try to figure out why they would create a new phone for people who just want 4 inches. I mean come on .7th of an inch is really a big deal. I have somewhat small hands and I have no problem with my 6s. And I know everyone else's hands aren't like mine but .7th of an inch. When the new phones come out in September why don't they just have a lineup like this.. 7+ $750 7- $650 6s-$550 - 64gb capacity only. Drop the 6s+ because Apple don't need to have 2, 5.5 inch phones competing with one another and just make the 6s the entry phone for people who want a small screen size or business owners who will buy them up and distribute them amongst the management team. And therefore Apple who have allready cut back on their production of the 6s series can now use them for mass distrubution for when the new phones come out later on in the year just now at a discounted rate. Instead of Apple buying back both the 6s series phones from brick-and-motar stores like bestbuy, target, Walmart, Verizon, att, sprint and T-Mobile, they can just drop the price on their current inventory to move whatever they have left on the shelf and just sell the 6s phones ( 64gb ) at $550. And therefore Instead of Apple being at a negative loss buyback for both the 6s and 6s+ They will be out just for the 6s+ series only. But to create a new phone for people who want .7 less is mind boggling to me. Just my opinion.
I'm just scratching my head and try to figure out why they would create a new phone for people who just want 4 inches. I mean come on .7th of an inch is really a big deal. I have somewhat small hands and I have no problem with my 6s. And I know everyone else's hands aren't like mine but .7th of an inch. ....But to create a new phone for people who want .7 less is mind boggling to me. Just my opinion.
You know the 6S Plus is only .8th of an inch larger than the 6S. Why did Apple even bother with the 6S? They should just make one size phone for everyone -- the 6S Plus. It's "mind boggling". /s
I'm just scratching my head and try to figure out why they would create a new phone for people who just want 4 inches. I mean come on .7th of an inch is really a big deal. I have somewhat small hands and I have no problem with my 6s. And I know everyone else's hands aren't like mine but .7th of an inch. ....But to create a new phone for people who want .7 less is mind boggling to me. Just my opinion.
You know the 6S Plus is only .8th of an inch larger than the 6S. Why did Apple even bother with the 6S? They should just make one size phone for everyone -- the 6S Plus. It's "mind boggling". /s
As good as that sounds, my personal opinion is that the smaller phone 4.7 was created for people that wanted the same features as the bigger phone ( all be it with less pixels and optical image stabilator oh and by the way my home screen doesn't need to be rotated ). for people who want to be practical this phone was created, now I'm not saying the 5.5 phone in 6+ and 6s+ isn't practical it's just to me practical for people who like bigger phones the ( I gotta have the next biggest thing, the next trendiest toy Apple has created in a phone form. I'm sure gamers love the phone, as well as people who have bigger hands will love the phone, again I'm only speaking from my interest. I just can't bring myself to hold a phone up to my ear that is only a couple inches shorter than a iPad mini. Just like I can't bring myself to buy the Apple Watch Edition and spend $17,000 for a watch that the entry level watch does the same exact thing. Why don't they just make the the Apple Watch Sport and have the owner just swap out the bands and make the other 2 obsolete? Now that's mind boggling
Look like Apple is going with budget route even with potential buyers wanting a flagship 4" iPhone. If it fails, Apple will say the 4" did not sell well! LOL!
Which is why they likely won't offer the "5se" without selling a "6c" too. Doing so would be to leave a lot of money on the table from customers who can easily afford more.
How about this ... Apple gave the iPod Touch significant updates and still lowered the price $50-$100. What if Apple is essentially repackaging 3 year old tech, upgrading the processor, adding Touch ID and NFC, and planning to sell it for $400? Then offering the "6c", a repackaged 6S without 3D Touch, for $500? That would make a lot more sense. Then if they sell well, introduce a "7c" during Spring 2017 for $600.
None of this makes any sense to me. Apple obviously gave up on the iPhone 6c (shortly after the pictures of the casing were leaked early last year), and replaced that effort with this new "iPhone 5se." This is patently obvious. Why on earth would anyone think they are not only going to make a new 4" phone, but make two of them, and at different price points?
Neither phone would be "cheap" in any real sense of the world, and it's likely that they went with the metal casing on the 5se in part because this increases the perceived value of the product and allows them to charge more for it. The iPhone 5c had less than stellar sales because it was a "cheap iPhone" that wasn't actually cheap. That was the major disappointment of the model according to, well ... basically everyone. it looked like a cheap plastic phone, but it was almost the same price as the other ones. This new iPhone is a way of doing the same thing but making people feel okay for spending the money because it looks like a regular, expensive iPhone, and not a "cheap" one.
If it's called the iPhone 5se as rumoured, it will be because it sets up expectations about the technology inside. In other words it won't include any tech that's generally associated with iPhone 6, 6s, or 7. So no ForceTouch, no pencil support, no fancy cameras. If we believe the purported video of this device on YouTube it will also have a headphone jack, so it will be for those customers that want to stay with the "old" technology. It's a "budget" iPhone, that like the iPhone 5c that came before it, won't actually be much cheaper at all to buy, but will be much much cheaper for Apple to manufacture. It will likely remain on the market for that purpose for multiple years.
(I left out the prices because they are irrelevant at this point. The reality is that Apple will price them at whatever price they wish to. As usual, the price will have almost no relation to how much it cost them to manufacture it, there will be roughly a hundred bucks difference between models and people will always pay whatever they are asked by Apple in any case.)
... 5xx makes no sense if it has the internal components of a 6 series. It's a two year old moniker. Would be disasterous branding. I like the idea of a mini.
You forget that the consumer usually doesn't know (or care), about the branding on the processors and other internals. The phones don't actually sell on that basis.
The consumers follow Apple's marketing. If the new phone has none of the main marketed features of the iPhone 6, then it doesn't make sense to call it 6 anything. It won't have ForceTouch, it won't have the new camera, it probably won't have the stronger aluminium of the 6s, it likely won't have slow motion or 4K video, etc. etc.
To the consumer, it will be the same size as an iPhone 5 series (this is probably it's most important feature), it will have pretty much the same internals and features, but it will look "new" (like an iPhone 6), and be a bit faster. It's a replacement in other words for everyone who currently has any variation of an iPhone 4 or iPhone 5. It's a "special edition" of the older types of phones aimed at people who are unwilling to move forward or who aren't so deeply invested in the "Apple cult," and just want a good phone.
The only real consumer facing feature the phone seems to have that's associated with the 6 series, is the way it looks. Personally, I'd go with "iPhone 6 mini" myself, but "iPhone 5se" is not out of the realm of possibility. It does make some kind of sense.
Disagree. I'm not sure if that will be the name either but it's definitely not nonsense.
If you consider that the purpose of making this thing is to provide a 4" form factor for that segment of apple's market that refuses to change to the newer, larger phones, then emphasizing that the technology inside is "older" is a good way to frame the device. As in, "Here is a version of your old phone that has the new capabilities, but is still essentially an 'old' phone." It's like Apple telling people that they can have this thing, but that they aren't running with the pack if this is their choice.
Releasing it mid-year (if they do) also sets it apart from the main line of phones and marks it as a "special." That's why "iPhone 5se" might make sense too. It's a special edition for that tiny group of people that like the "old-style" phones.
Finally, it also covers their ass in regards the (almost inevitable) performance degradation involved. If they used a 6 or 7 series moniker, then the phone will be compared to the other 6's and 7's, whereas this way, it will be compared to the 5's instead. The only way it makes sense to give it a 6 or 7 name, is if it truly is the new "third size" and that iPhone will be moving forward with those three sizes in future models. This seems unlikely at this time.
Be prepared for "If you have an iPhone 5 or 5s, this is your upgrade!" kind of articles after it's released. All the wise technorati will post articles about how lame it is compared to the latest and greatest but "If you've been waiting for a new 4" model, this is it!" And they will be right.
I don't think it will be cheap either. If they wanted to make it even the (meagre) hundred bucks cheaper of the 5c, they would have moved forward with the plastic casings that were leaked in photos last year. Obviously, Apple changed their minds on a plastic "iPhone 6c" at that point and is now moving forward with a higher quality device. As tight-fisted and money-grubbing as Apple is lately, I wouldn't be surprised if this new phone will actually be the cause of a rise in iPhone prices in that it not only won't be cheaper, but the other models might go up by a hundred as well.
thing is the 5s is a solid phone that still runs well. If apple want us holdouts to upgrade then the new 4 inch needs to be a compelling upgrade not just a meager slapped together no heart design.
5se says to the buyer they literally phoned it in so just keep your current 5 till it dies.
The numbers across apple lines are getting rediculous anyway they should just drop them give each product a name and a year.
True enough. I think the fact that Apple didn't upgrade any of the 4" phones on the 1 year or 2 year anniversary of their availability speaks volumes though. It's as if they were sending a message to the 4" phone people that they didn't actually care about them. They wanted to see how many people would move from the 4" to the larger phones when their contract ran out.
The iPhone 5c and now this iPhone 5se if it exists, are stop-gap products and not the greatest upgrades as you say. The problem it though I don't think Apple actually wants to make a decent upgrade for the 4" phone. Everything they have made lately and everything they have said kind of indicates that 4" phone users are second class citizens now. They will probably deny this on stage even as they debut the new 4" phone, but the debut itself will argue the opposite IMO.
Which is why they likely won't offer the "5se" without selling a "6c" too. Doing so would be to leave a lot of money on the table from customers who can easily afford more.
How about this ... Apple gave the iPod Touch significant updates and still lowered the price $50-$100. What if Apple is essentially repackaging 3 year old tech, upgrading the processor, adding Touch ID and NFC, and planning to sell it for $400? Then offering the "6c", a repackaged 6S without 3D Touch, for $500? That would make a lot more sense. Then if they sell well, introduce a "7c" during Spring 2017 for $600.
None of this makes any sense to me. Apple obviously gave up on the iPhone 6c (shortly after the pictures of the casing were leaked early last year), and replaced that effort with this new "iPhone 5se." This is patently obvious. Why on earth would anyone think they are not only going to make a new 4" phone, but make two of them, and at different price points?
Neither phone would be "cheap" in any real sense of the world, and it's likely that they went with the metal casing on the 5se in part because this increases the perceived value of the product and allows them to charge more for it. The iPhone 5c had less than stellar sales because it was a "cheap iPhone" that wasn't actually cheap. That was the major disappointment of the model according to, well ... basically everyone. it looked like a cheap plastic phone, but it was almost the same price as the other ones. This new iPhone is a way of doing the same thing but making people feel okay for spending the money because it looks like a regular, expensive iPhone, and not a "cheap" one.
If it's called the iPhone 5se as rumoured, it will be because it sets up expectations about the technology inside. In other words it won't include any tech that's generally associated with iPhone 6, 6s, or 7. So no ForceTouch, no pencil support, no fancy cameras. If we believe the purported video of this device on YouTube it will also have a headphone jack, so it will be for those customers that want to stay with the "old" technology. It's a "budget" iPhone, that like the iPhone 5c that came before it, won't actually be much cheaper at all to buy, but will be much much cheaper for Apple to manufacture. It will likely remain on the market for that purpose for multiple years.
(I left out the prices because they are irrelevant at this point. The reality is that Apple will price them at whatever price they wish to. As usual, the price will have almost no relation to how much it cost them to manufacture it, there will be roughly a hundred bucks difference between models and people will always pay whatever they are asked by Apple in any case.)
You're entitled to your opinion, but your theory leaves a lot of money on the table, both from 4" enthusiasts who can otherwise afford to pay premium prices, and will; as well as eliminating any Android/Samsung platform jumpers by not offering a $450 (free on contract) iP6. The 6 series is responsible for a large migration of platform switchers, who contributed to its success, and there's more where they came from on the previously untapped entry level end of the spectrum where tens of millions of customers dwell.
There are a lot of conflicting rumors out there, which can be easily reconciled if there are two 4" phones. Your particular biases don't allow you to account for more than one, and that's fine. But it's not because it doesn't make sense. It just doesn't make sense with your narrow viewpoint, that nobody wants a 4" iPhone, and Apple will not change their pricing strategy.
The reality is, every major carrier and Apple have all but eliminated contract sales, which means for the first time customers know the real price of the phones they buy, all of which made more affordable by installment plans. The fact Apple could upgrade the iPod Touch and knock $50-$100 off could certainly suggest the iPhone is in for a similar reorganization of price points, now that they're about to have 6 different models on the market at once, not counting the 4" addition. Lowering the price $50 won't affect the bottom line much when Apple's getting a monthly payment, and locked the customer into an endless annual upgrade cycle. It also won't hurt if a $50 discount will bring in millions of new Android customers, who were otherwise priced out of Apple's ecosystem. An iPhone 6 with 3-year old tech would actually be a huge step up from the new $100-200 Androids they're willing to use now, while at the same time having little appeal existing iPhone customers.
thing is the 5s is a solid phone that still runs well. If apple want us holdouts to upgrade then the new 4 inch needs to be a compelling upgrade not just a meager slapped together no heart design.
5se says to the buyer they literally phoned it in so just keep your current 5 till it dies.
The numbers across apple lines are getting rediculous anyway they should just drop them give each product a name and a year.
True enough. I think the fact that Apple didn't upgrade any of the 4" phones on the 1 year or 2 year anniversary of their availability speaks volumes though. It's as if they were sending a message to the 4" phone people that they didn't actually care about them. They wanted to see how many people would move from the 4" to the larger phones when their contract ran out.
The iPhone 5c and now this iPhone 5se if it exists, are stop-gap products and not the greatest upgrades as you say. The problem it though I don't think Apple actually wants to make a decent upgrade for the 4" phone. Everything they have made lately and everything they have said kind of indicates that 4" phone users are second class citizens now. They will probably deny this on stage even as they debut the new 4" phone, but the debut itself will argue the opposite IMO.
So true. I honestly think I'll be keeping this 5S for another few years to see how it lasts. Still if Apple doesn't care about a 4inch 5se is still an awful product name. Add to that there has been much tech advancement rumoured other than bumping the Aseries. All this to me implies a product that is at best press release material and not even front page of the website worthy let alone event worthy.
So if the rumours are true and there is an event worthy new iPhone coming march /april then what else would it be?
To me Apple wants something that will spread the sales out to stop the holiday season peak, but don't want be something that would stop holiday gift sales by being on the market to long. So that rules out the iPhone or Plus being moved early in the year yet it would have to have strong appeal with business buyers to move the curve.
I think there will be a new A9, using TSMC 16nm FFC. So basically a cheaper, more power efficient A9. The Top bin, going up to 2Ghz will likely end up inside iPad Air 3.
While the slower version will be in iPhone 5se.
It may also finally come with Intel's Modem XMM7260, which should be slightly more power efficient then the one used in iPhone 5s Qualcomm 9615, not to mention cheaper.
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5se says to the buyer they literally phoned it in so just keep your current 5 till it dies.
The numbers across apple lines are getting rediculous anyway they should just drop them give each product a name and a year.
How about this ... Apple gave the iPod Touch significant updates and still lowered the price $50-$100. What if Apple is essentially repackaging 3 year old tech, upgrading the processor, adding Touch ID and NFC, and planning to sell it for $400? Then offering the "6c", a repackaged 6S without 3D Touch, for $500? That would make a lot more sense. Then if they sell well, introduce a "7c" during Spring 2017 for $600.
IMO Apple should just have an iPhone, iPhone Plus and iPhone Pro in the three sizes. Simples.
7+ $750
7- $650
6s-$550 - 64gb capacity only.
Drop the 6s+ because Apple don't need to have 2, 5.5 inch phones competing with one another and just make the 6s the entry phone for people who want a small screen size or business owners who will buy them up and distribute them amongst the management team.
And therefore Apple who have allready cut back on their production of the 6s series can now use them for mass distrubution for when the new phones come out later on in the year just now at a discounted rate. Instead of Apple buying back both the 6s series phones from brick-and-motar stores like bestbuy, target, Walmart, Verizon, att, sprint and T-Mobile, they can just drop the price on their current inventory to move whatever they have left on the shelf and just sell the 6s phones ( 64gb ) at $550. And therefore Instead of Apple being at a negative loss buyback for both the 6s and 6s+ They will be out just for the 6s+ series only. But to create a new phone for people who want .7 less is mind boggling to me.
Just my opinion.
I'm sure gamers love the phone, as well as people who have bigger hands will love the phone, again I'm only speaking from my interest. I just can't bring myself to hold a phone up to my ear that is only a couple inches shorter than a iPad mini. Just like I can't bring myself to buy the Apple Watch Edition and spend $17,000 for a watch that the entry level watch does the same exact thing. Why don't they just make the the Apple Watch Sport and have the owner just swap out the bands and make the other 2 obsolete?
Now that's mind boggling
Neither phone would be "cheap" in any real sense of the world, and it's likely that they went with the metal casing on the 5se in part because this increases the perceived value of the product and allows them to charge more for it. The iPhone 5c had less than stellar sales because it was a "cheap iPhone" that wasn't actually cheap. That was the major disappointment of the model according to, well ... basically everyone. it looked like a cheap plastic phone, but it was almost the same price as the other ones. This new iPhone is a way of doing the same thing but making people feel okay for spending the money because it looks like a regular, expensive iPhone, and not a "cheap" one.
If it's called the iPhone 5se as rumoured, it will be because it sets up expectations about the technology inside. In other words it won't include any tech that's generally associated with iPhone 6, 6s, or 7. So no ForceTouch, no pencil support, no fancy cameras. If we believe the purported video of this device on YouTube it will also have a headphone jack, so it will be for those customers that want to stay with the "old" technology. It's a "budget" iPhone, that like the iPhone 5c that came before it, won't actually be much cheaper at all to buy, but will be much much cheaper for Apple to manufacture. It will likely remain on the market for that purpose for multiple years.
My prediction for 2016 lineup:
- iPhone 5se
- iPhone 6s
- iPhone 6s+
- iPhone 7
- iPhone 7+
All other models discontinued.
(I left out the prices because they are irrelevant at this point. The reality is that Apple will price them at whatever price they wish to. As usual, the price will have almost no relation to how much it cost them to manufacture it, there will be roughly a hundred bucks difference between models and people will always pay whatever they are asked by Apple in any case.)
The consumers follow Apple's marketing. If the new phone has none of the main marketed features of the iPhone 6, then it doesn't make sense to call it 6 anything. It won't have ForceTouch, it won't have the new camera, it probably won't have the stronger aluminium of the 6s, it likely won't have slow motion or 4K video, etc. etc.
To the consumer, it will be the same size as an iPhone 5 series (this is probably it's most important feature), it will have pretty much the same internals and features, but it will look "new" (like an iPhone 6), and be a bit faster. It's a replacement in other words for everyone who currently has any variation of an iPhone 4 or iPhone 5. It's a "special edition" of the older types of phones aimed at people who are unwilling to move forward or who aren't so deeply invested in the "Apple cult," and just want a good phone.
The only real consumer facing feature the phone seems to have that's associated with the 6 series, is the way it looks. Personally, I'd go with "iPhone 6 mini" myself, but "iPhone 5se" is not out of the realm of possibility. It does make some kind of sense.
The iPhone 5c and now this iPhone 5se if it exists, are stop-gap products and not the greatest upgrades as you say. The problem it though I don't think Apple actually wants to make a decent upgrade for the 4" phone. Everything they have made lately and everything they have said kind of indicates that 4" phone users are second class citizens now. They will probably deny this on stage even as they debut the new 4" phone, but the debut itself will argue the opposite IMO.
There are a lot of conflicting rumors out there, which can be easily reconciled if there are two 4" phones. Your particular biases don't allow you to account for more than one, and that's fine. But it's not because it doesn't make sense. It just doesn't make sense with your narrow viewpoint, that nobody wants a 4" iPhone, and Apple will not change their pricing strategy.
The reality is, every major carrier and Apple have all but eliminated contract sales, which means for the first time customers know the real price of the phones they buy, all of which made more affordable by installment plans. The fact Apple could upgrade the iPod Touch and knock $50-$100 off could certainly suggest the iPhone is in for a similar reorganization of price points, now that they're about to have 6 different models on the market at once, not counting the 4" addition. Lowering the price $50 won't affect the bottom line much when Apple's getting a monthly payment, and locked the customer into an endless annual upgrade cycle. It also won't hurt if a $50 discount will bring in millions of new Android customers, who were otherwise priced out of Apple's ecosystem. An iPhone 6 with 3-year old tech would actually be a huge step up from the new $100-200 Androids they're willing to use now, while at the same time having little appeal existing iPhone customers.
Still if Apple doesn't care about a 4inch 5se is still an awful product name. Add to that there has been much tech advancement rumoured other than bumping the Aseries. All this to me implies a product that is at best press release material and not even front page of the website worthy let alone event worthy.
So if the rumours are true and there is an event worthy new iPhone coming march /april then what else would it be?
To me Apple wants something that will spread the sales out to stop the holiday season peak, but don't want be something that would stop holiday gift sales by being on the market to long. So that rules out the iPhone or Plus being moved early in the year yet it would have to have strong appeal with business buyers to move the curve.
While the slower version will be in iPhone 5se.
It may also finally come with Intel's Modem XMM7260, which should be slightly more power efficient then the one used in iPhone 5s Qualcomm 9615, not to mention cheaper.