Rumor: Apple's new 9.7" iPad will carry premium $599 starting price for 32GB

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  • Reply 61 of 71
    bb-15bb-15 Posts: 283member
    bb-15 said:
    Agreed. The rumor of the $100 entry level price increase for the 9.7 inch iPad Pro is disappointing. I can’t see how this is a good idea for Apple. iPad sales have been dropping sharply. Tim Cook said that he was going to turn this trend around. Since the most popular iPad model is the 9.7 inch size, how can increasing the entry price by $100 help? The result will be fewer sales simply because of the cost. Some customers will go for tablet products from other companies and others will need to postpone the purchase of a new 9.7 inch iPad until they can come up with the increased amount of money.
    But this is part of the iPad Pro line. It's not increasing the price of the Air. Maybe Apple realizes the larger iPhone is eating into iPad sales so they're moving iPad to iPad Pro line and letting iPhone take the place of other iPads.
    The new 9.7 inch iPad Pro is increasing the price of what was formally known as the iPad Air. The iPad Air is being replaced by this new 9.7 inch iPad Pro. In other words, the iPad Air 3 = the new 9.7 inch iPad Pro. Meaning the entry price for a new 9.7 inch iPad will now be $100 more. Making the 9.7 inch iPad more expensive is a problem for some customers just because of this increased price.
  • Reply 62 of 71
    elehcdnelehcdn Posts: 388member

    toddzrx said:
    No, no they are not.  The hardware has little to do with it; it's the software that makes the difference, and iOS is not a desktop/laptop system.
    It doesn't have to be desktop / laptop system to be a desktop / laptop replacement for the mainstream segment of the market.
    The iPad Pro series is designed to be sold into corporate markets. Apple has done a lot of work integrating IT management and security into the iOS devices and the Pro tablets are designed to be laptop replacements for executives and managers on the go.
  • Reply 63 of 71
    bb-15bb-15 Posts: 283member
    elehcdn said:

    It doesn't have to be desktop / laptop system to be a desktop / laptop replacement for the mainstream segment of the market.
    The iPad Pro series is designed to be sold into corporate markets. Apple has done a lot of work integrating IT management and security into the iOS devices and the Pro tablets are designed to be laptop replacements for executives and managers on the go.
    I don't see much difference between more capable users in the mainstream market and executives in the corporate market. The iPad (since model 2) has been a laptop replacement in certain situations for the higher skilled mainstream or executive markets. In my company years ago the iPad 2 became the standard for managers while traveling or to take meeting notes. * What does the new 9.7 inch iPad Pro add? The pencil which is an improvement on all the past stylus for the iPad. Second a keyboard connector which is the more useful option for many users since attached Bluetooth iPad keyboards have long been a popular 3rd party accessory but Bluetooth could be unreliable. - So, this new 9.7 inch iPad Pro is going to be attractive to a lot of buyers (corporate and mainstream). The other option for the 9.7 inch iPad buyer is the 1 1/2 year old iPad Air 2 which is clearly dated and imo will not be upgraded by Apple with a new Air model. - The result, you want the latest 9.7 inch iPad? You pay $599 to start. You want more than 32 GB? You pay $750 for the 128 GB model (no 64 GB option AFAIK).
  • Reply 64 of 71
    rogifan_newrogifan_new Posts: 4,297member
    bb-15 said:
    But this is part of the iPad Pro line. It's not increasing the price of the Air. Maybe Apple realizes the larger iPhone is eating into iPad sales so they're moving iPad to iPad Pro line and letting iPhone take the place of other iPads.
    The new 9.7 inch iPad Pro is increasing the price of what was formally known as the iPad Air. The iPad Air is being replaced by this new 9.7 inch iPad Pro. In other words, the iPad Air 3 = the new 9.7 inch iPad Pro. Meaning the entry price for a new 9.7 inch iPad will now be $100 more. Making the 9.7 inch iPad more expensive is a problem for some customers just because of this increased price.
    When did Apple say the Air was being replaced by this?
  • Reply 65 of 71
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    bb-15 said:
    The new 9.7 inch iPad Pro is increasing the price of what was formally known as the iPad Air. The iPad Air is being replaced by this new 9.7 inch iPad Pro. In other words, the iPad Air 3 = the new 9.7 inch iPad Pro. Meaning the entry price for a new 9.7 inch iPad will now be $100 more. Making the 9.7 inch iPad more expensive is a problem for some customers just because of this increased price.
    When did Apple say the Air was being replaced by this?
    There's declining sales of the iPad, and do you believe that making 2 models of the same size is the solution to increase sales? 
    bb-15
  • Reply 66 of 71
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    When did Apple say the Air was being replaced by this?
    There's declining sales of the iPad, and do you believe that making 2 models of the same size is the solution to increase sales? 

    Declining is still 50M+ units a year; many wish this kind of decline.

    Two models of same size would be an answer if they better target each segment instead of being jack of all trades.
    The Pro/Business/Creative segment has a different need than people who just needs a consumption device.

    Apple could get people who just want a consumption device if they get a much lighter (say 300g) device with a better speaker, a better screen but not necessarily a much better processor, GPU, memory or storage (size and speed of access).

    For professionals, such an update would be almost a yawn (unless they put media consumption as a their major need); these people want more from their Ipads than regular joe wants and they're ready to pay for it.

    Making one device short changes the little guy on price and pros on feature, Apple doesn't get a sale and everyone loses, especially Apple.
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 67 of 71
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    foggyhill said:
    There's declining sales of the iPad, and do you believe that making 2 models of the same size is the solution to increase sales? 

    Declining is still 50M+ units a year; many wish this kind of decline.

    Two models of same size would be an answer if they better target each segment instead of being jack of all trades.
    The Pro/Business/Creative segment has a different need than people who just needs a consumption device.

    Apple could get people who just want a consumption device if they get a much lighter (say 300g) device with a better speaker, a better screen but not necessarily a much better processor, GPU, memory or storage (size and speed of access).

    For professionals, such an update would be almost a yawn (unless they put media consumption as a their major need); these people want more from their Ipads than regular joe wants and they're ready to pay for it.

    Making one device short changes the little guy on price and pros on feature, Apple doesn't get a sale and everyone loses, especially Apple.
    They already made an iPad for professionals, it's called the iPad Pro. 
  • Reply 68 of 71
    bb-15bb-15 Posts: 283member
    bb-15 said:
    The new 9.7 inch iPad Pro is increasing the price of what was formally known as the iPad Air. The iPad Air is being replaced by this new 9.7 inch iPad Pro. In other words, the iPad Air 3 = the new 9.7 inch iPad Pro. Meaning the entry price for a new 9.7 inch iPad will now be $100 more. Making the 9.7 inch iPad more expensive is a problem for some customers just because of this increased price.
    When did Apple say the Air was being replaced by this?
    I'm pretty sure that Apple will keep the 1 1/2 year old Air 2 in the lineup. Again the choice will be between the more expensive 9.7 inch iPad Pro ($100 to $150 more) or getting an out of date machine (Air 2). I am certain there will be no new model for the iPad Air. It's pretty clear that the future for the 9.7 inch iPad will be the more expensive Pro.
  • Reply 69 of 71
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 2,270member
    foggyhill said:

    Declining is still 50M+ units a year; many wish this kind of decline.

    Two models of same size would be an answer if they better target each segment instead of being jack of all trades.
    The Pro/Business/Creative segment has a different need than people who just needs a consumption device.

    Apple could get people who just want a consumption device if they get a much lighter (say 300g) device with a better speaker, a better screen but not necessarily a much better processor, GPU, memory or storage (size and speed of access).

    For professionals, such an update would be almost a yawn (unless they put media consumption as a their major need); these people want more from their Ipads than regular joe wants and they're ready to pay for it.

    Making one device short changes the little guy on price and pros on feature, Apple doesn't get a sale and everyone loses, especially Apple.
    They already made an iPad for professionals, it's called the iPad Pro. 
    That's no reason not to have two sizes for the pro
  • Reply 70 of 71
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    foggyhill said:

    Declining is still 50M+ units a year; many wish this kind of decline.

    Two models of same size would be an answer if they better target each segment instead of being jack of all trades.
    The Pro/Business/Creative segment has a different need than people who just needs a consumption device.

    Apple could get people who just want a consumption device if they get a much lighter (say 300g) device with a better speaker, a better screen but not necessarily a much better processor, GPU, memory or storage (size and speed of access).

    For professionals, such an update would be almost a yawn (unless they put media consumption as a their major need); these people want more from their Ipads than regular joe wants and they're ready to pay for it.

    Making one device short changes the little guy on price and pros on feature, Apple doesn't get a sale and everyone loses, especially Apple.
    They already made an iPad for professionals, it's called the iPad Pro. 
    The large Ipad pro is too large for those moving around (it's not that mobile), like business professionals (which are important when you consider the IBM partnership)..

    Also, it's a bridge device; Apps made for the large Ipad pro could be extended to work well on the smaller device and thus by extension be used on the Air device, where more intensive apps are not done because the device doesn't quite cover professional uses.
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