OWC announces Thunderbolt 3 Dock with ports galore, returns functionality to new MacBook Pro

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  • Reply 61 of 103
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 7,311member
    To summarize this thread:

    Not good enough!  Nothing will assuage the thirst for blood of disaffected “power” users. DIE Apple... DIE!


    nolamacguypscooter63randominternetpersonDeelron
  • Reply 62 of 103

    I was there when apple dropped SuperDrive, FireWire, Ethernet and more from the mbp. The sun came up the next day. And I was completely content adjusting to 'moving forward' after a short adjustment. That's what Apple does. They move things forward because nobody else will. 
    It's a laptop that's way too big and expensive for the email / web browser market, but way too limited for professionals.  Of course the sun comes up tomorrow, and this laptop still sucks.
    i'm a software developer and it is perfectly suited to my profession. meanwhile, you've never even seen the damn thing. the eitltlement is strong in this one....i suggest you start a company in your garage. 
    edited November 2016 randominternetpersonDeelronsteveh
  • Reply 63 of 103
    "Thunderbolt 3 Dock connects to a host Mac via an included 0.5-meter Thunderbolt cable" So much for using it with a 12" MacBook or new MacBook Pro, neither of which even have a Thunderbolt port...
  • Reply 64 of 103
    hypwitit said:
    Oh, look, your ultra light $2500 new MacBook Pro only needs 2 pounds and $400 worth of accessories to make it useful. Thanks, Apple, you're amazing!
    your post is idiotic, because not everyone needs the accessories. i sure as hell don't. my work is code and lives on git servers and my local device. why the f would i want to carry around a bunch of dumb legacy ports and slots i've never used and will never use? just to make you random haters happy?
    Deelronsteveh
  • Reply 65 of 103
    And for the less 'pro' people out there there is this one with not quite as many ports but with hdmi for only $65
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019R9ILTG/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
    But it connects via USBC not Thunderbolt
  • Reply 66 of 103
    Soli said:
    What, no MicroSD slot?
    What, no 10GigE?
    What, no VGA?
    What, no ADC?
    What, no Serial?
    What, no Parallel?
    What, no eSATA?
    What, no USB Type-B, Type-B SS, Mini-A, Mini-B, Micro-A, Micro-B, or Micro-B SS?
    What, no BNC connector for Token Ring?
    What, no SCSI?
    What, no ADB?
    What, no PS/2?
    What, no LocalTalk?
    Ouch, I forgot the eternal PCMCIA...
    NuBus, no NuBus?
    neo-techSolistevehanome
  • Reply 67 of 103
    xoop said:
    The reason OWC's dock 'spontaneously' unmounts drives is  that it is poorly shielded. Try putting an iPhone next to the dock then call it. Boom, drives are gone.

    Also, this dock won't power the MacBook? That's a drag.
    Contacted them, it does, in-fact, charge up to the 15" MacBook Pro. They even say in the material, 1 cable to charge your laptop and connect devices.
    edited November 2016 kirkgraysteveh
  • Reply 68 of 103
    inteliboy said:
    No HDMI??

    All these hubs have the same ports -- yet no HDMI. They probably all use the same made-in-china cheap internals wrapped and branded slightly differently.
    HDMI is really not keeping up. It's to large for one thing. Thats why DP (Mini) is taking over.. HDMI is fine for TV's but for small, thin devices, you really need a Mini Display port or USB C display ports. It just makes sense.. Besides, you COULD get a DP to HDMI cable or adaptor or USB-C to HDMI.. and that would work fine.
    brucemc
  • Reply 69 of 103
    On the MacBreak Weekly podcast Andy Ihnatko and Leo Laporte both said the new MacBook Pro butterfly keyboard was a "showstopper" and is basically unusable for any serious typists, while Alex Lindsay, head of PixelCorps, said the lack of standard ports removes this latest model from consideration and it is no longer a serious computer for professionals.

    i'm getting the impression some people don't like what Apple is doing with their Macs. 
    edited November 2016 baconstang
  • Reply 70 of 103
    Soli said:

    I have Apple's TB-to-Ethernet one for my 2013 MBP so I could restore from Time Machine faster than using WiFi when I first got it. I think that's the only time I ever used it. No one else was selling TB stuff then and I wanted to test the Ethernet performance. It's 2016 and wireless communication is king. Today, with 802.11ac MIMO I don't think I'll use a wired connection to set up my new MBP using Time Machine. I will likely end up buying the $19.99 adapter I posted because I like to plan for the unknown, but I doubt I'll need to use it.

    I haven't yet tried the USB-C version of the ethernet adapter because I obviously haven't yet received my new MacBook Pro, but if it's anything like the Thunderbolt model, I'll still be using it.

    There's no question current incarnations of wireless are fast, but in my setup of all-Apple products the wire is still consistently 1/3- to 1/2-again as fast as wireless. A file transfer that took 24 minutes over wireless was only 16 minutes wired. You may want to do your own comparison and see if it's worth a few seconds to plug in the wire.

    Then again, you may not be transferring 20-40Gb at a time like I am, making the difference less important to your workflow.
    pscooter63
  • Reply 71 of 103
    "Thunderbolt 3 Dock connects to a host Mac via an included 0.5-meter Thunderbolt cable" So much for using it with a 12" MacBook or new MacBook Pro, neither of which even have a Thunderbolt port...

    I don't know about the 12" MacBook, but the MacBook Pro has FOUR Thunderbolt ports. That's the beauty of the new design -- every one of those ports is a combo TB3/USB 31. Gen2.
    neo-techkirkgray
  • Reply 72 of 103
    anome said:
    I'd like to see what the power output they can manage is, though. A lot of USB-C docks only support 60W, so won't actually charge the 15" MBP.

    I'm guessing, given the timing and the wait time, that they do support the 15", but it would be nice to have something that said so explicitly.

    I mean, it could be there and I missed it, but I didn't see any details beyond the "delivers charging power" claim above.

    I think the power supply is 100 watts.
    anome
  • Reply 73 of 103
    It can what now?

    "The dock is also supports daisy-chaining multiple Lightning devices together, useful in professional image editing workflows where fast data retrieval is vital."

    I'm surprised it has mini displayport rather than HDMI - more versatile this way though!
  • Reply 74 of 103
    Soli said:
    What, no MicroSD slot?
    What, no 10GigE?
    What, no VGA?
    What, no ADC?
    What, no Serial?
    What, no Parallel?
    What, no eSATA?
    What, no USB Type-B, Type-B SS, Mini-A, Mini-B, Micro-A, Micro-B, or Micro-B SS?
    What, no BNC connector for Token Ring?
    What, no SCSI?
    What, no ADB?
    What, no PS/2?
    What, no LocalTalk?
    Ouch, I forgot the eternal PCMCIA...
    NuBus, no NuBus?
    Don't forget CardBus while you're at it.... dang... you didn't. my bad.

    Rs 432 anyone?
    edited November 2016 Soli
  • Reply 75 of 103
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    On the MacBreak Weekly podcast Andy Ihnatko and Leo Laporte both said the new MacBook Pro butterfly keyboard was a "showstopper" and is basically unusable for any serious typists, while Alex Lindsay, head of PixelCorps, said the lack of standard ports removes this latest model from consideration and it is no longer a serious computer for professionals.

    i'm getting the impression some people don't like what Apple is doing with their Macs. 
    if only Apple had any serious typists in their offices -- they could have caught this glaring oversight before releasing it! oh wait, they're absolutely chock full of them. hmm. so i guess that means...some people have different opinions on some things??
    edited November 2016 randominternetpersonsteveh
  • Reply 76 of 103
    AppleBumAppleBum Posts: 37unconfirmed, member
    paxman said:
    dacloo said:
    $279
    And for the less 'pro' people out there there is this one with not quite as many ports but with hdmi for only $65
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019R9ILTG/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
    And if you don't need Power Delivery through the dock (true especially with the 15" MBP), then you can save $17. https://www.amazon.com/HooToo-Shuttle-Type-C-MacBook-Chromebook/dp/B019R9KAUE/
  • Reply 77 of 103
    ManuCH said:
    This one is much cheaper and even has Gigabit Ethernet, as well as HDMI. Granted, it's not a "desk design" and is less "pro", but I got one and I'm very satisfied. https://www.amazon.com/Juiced-Systems-USB-C-Multiport-Gigabit/dp/B01JD9GN6I

    I'll wait until it has more than 1 review, but it does look like a compelling alternative.  I wonder why I didn't see that one during my hours of searching/browsing USB-c stuff the other day.
  • Reply 78 of 103
    Remember when the iPods first came out and there were web sites devoted to reviewing iPod related accessories?  As (my last week nemesis) Soli said, we need something similar for USB-c accessories.  I don't want to buy a $60 no-name do-it-all dock/dongle thing just to find that it some of the ports don't really work.  Sure there are Amazon reviews but I'm starting to trust them less and less.
    kirkgray
  • Reply 79 of 103
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,449member
    This is one massive plug-in dongle!

    Though dongles are somewhat costly and unsightly, it would be a mistake for Apple to design new computers around legacy peripherals. New peripherals will appear soon with the right connectors for use with MBP.

    For nearly $300, OWC could have included a Lightning port for iPhone charging. Also a WiFi booster.
    I agree this dock should have included a Lightning port, but not for charging. Not sure I follow your thinking as that would require a Male-to-male Lightning cable which doesn't currently exist. The only thing a Lightning port would be good for charging would be an Apple Pencil, which is not currently compatible with the Mac.

    The Lightning port would be there to correct Apples oversight of not allowing their iPhone 7 included Lightning EarPods to be used on a new MacBook. I mean, there's not even a dongle for Lightning headphones to USB-C, much less anything else. That's a hint Apple wasn't ready to add Lightning to OS X, or we would have heard about adapters by now -- Apple clearly isn't allowing it yet.

    And that's the reason it's probably not on the MBP or likely able to be included on the dock is because Apple isn't likely ready to implement Lightning in OS X, which would require support not only for the headphones, but all Lightning devices, adapters and cables. That's why I think we'll see it potentially first appear on the Retina MacBook update in the Spring. Some evidence points to the fact they didn't include a USB-C charger in the iPhone 7 box either -- basically Apple isn't ready to merge the two platforms together yet. And that's not surprising after seeing the significant engineering that went into its first all USB-C Mac. They likely want to introduce that and get all the bugs worked out before they add Lightning issues to the mix.

    i wouldn't be surprised to see Pencil support added to the Trackpad in near future as well, further justifying adding Lightning.
    edited November 2016
  • Reply 80 of 103
    SoliSoli Posts: 9,271member
    sirozha said:

    Soli said:
    tegeril said:
    paxman said:
    dacloo said:
    $279
    And for the less 'pro' people out there there is this one with not quite as many ports but with hdmi for only $65
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019R9ILTG/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
    That is a USB 3.1 Gen 1 product, not a Thunderbolt product. It's not really honest to compare them so directly.
    Why does that matter if you don't need TB speeds? Why do you make a big deal about TB but don't indicate if it's TB1, 2, or 3 supported by the accessory?

    If I have to do a PowerPoint/Keynote presentation 2–4x a year in a conference room that still requires a VGA connector why do I need a $300 adapter when a $14.99 adapter will suit my needs?


    If I have some odd device that I have to plug into my MBP or need to plug in via Ethernet on some rare occasion why do I need a $300 adapter when I can spend $19.99 on an adapter that has Ethernet and 3x USB-A 3.0 ports?

    I can even go cheaper for Ethernet for $12.99.

    I have Apple's TB-to-Ethernet one for my 2013 MBP so I could restore from Time Machine faster than using WiFi when I first got it. I think that's the only time I ever used it. No one else was selling TB stuff then and I wanted to test the Ethernet performance. It's 2016 and wireless communication is king. Today, with 802.11ac MIMO I don't think I'll use a wired connection to set up my new MBP using Time Machine. I will likely end up buying the $19.99 adapter I posted because I like to plan for the unknown, but I doubt I'll need to use it. Even my iPhone 7 was restored via WiFi from iCloud because it was fast enough that it's no longer a requirement to have the Mac as your Digital hub. I'm very happy that I don't have all these "we should include them on every device just in case someone might use them" ports. I can't tell you the last time I've attached a monitor to my MBP and yet my entire computing life I've had a notebook with a dedicated port just for display-out… until 2013. Now we're truly moving into the future with the USB-C port. This is a good thing.
    Get the new Apple Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt adapter and daisy-chain will your Thunderbolt to Gigabit adapter. Do not go with USB-C based Gigabit adapters. They do not provide a discrete I/O chip to offload I/O from the laptop's CPU. 
    That's an option, but I have it as a "just in case" option, even though I won't likely use it. I also have a USB-A-to-Ethernet adapter for work, which I've never used.

    The problem with that double dongle solution is Apple charges $49 for it. I'd rather just pay the $12.99 for Monoprice's USB-C-to-GigE adapter if I'm just going to hold onto it. I doubt I'll ever be connecting a Thunderbolt/mDP-port-anything-else in the future.

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