Seybold 2002 - Do Phil Schiller & Chris Borden HATE Each Other Or What?

in General Discussion edited January 2014
OK, so maybe it's just me, but I just watched the Seybold 2002 keynote with Phil Schiller, it sorta seems like Phil's not loved in Apple - but ya know, the guy's job can't be easy ... so if that's true I'm not going to take sides, it's gotta be tough when every time you walk on stage, everybody sighs with palpable dissappointment 'cause it ain't Uncle Steve.

Regardless ... I'm watching the Seybold demo, and on comes Chris Borden (I think I heard his name right) ... Chris does an excellent demo of both Quartz extreme and other technologies, he's eloquent, he's personable, he's understandable ...

And it seems like he and Phil HATE each other!

I mean, just start watching the Seybold 2002 video after about 42:40, everything starts off fine before this, but around this point ( about half way thru), the body language and voice tone between these two starts getting a little strained whenever they address each other - the clearest thing I can point to takes place just after 42:40, when Chris invites Phil over and takes his picture on a Nikon D1X using the OSX image capture application. Listen to words and tone Chris uses to descibe Phil's picture, and especially what he does to Phil's "Mug" (it sounded like "Bug", but I think "Mug" is what he meant, not that that makes it all that much better) ...

And then listen to Phil's response:

"Thanks for deleting me Chris"

Check it out for yourself, I mean, it's subtle, but not THAT subtle.

Just keep watching, the tone between these two doesn't seem to get any better.

To Phil's credit, he "Thanked" Chris with the line above, and acted as if nothing had happened - and who knows, maybe nothing did happen ... but I don't think so.

Watch it for yourself.

Something's up.



  • Reply 1 of 21
    lover's spat.....nothing more, nothing less.....g
  • Reply 2 of 21
    der kopfder kopf Posts: 2,275member
    Great find <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

    Although I have NEVER liked that Schiller guy (he's really a proselite who always tells you what exactly it is that you should think. Seeing Schiller... think different my ass).

    So, to recap, although I have never liked that Schiller guy, I think he's gonna personally boot someone come monday.
  • Reply 3 of 21
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    I love Phil Schiller!

    A whole keynote of him rocks my world.

    Whoever hates Phil Schiller just hates himself.
  • Reply 4 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by groverat:

    <strong>I love Phil Schiller!

    A whole keynote of him rocks my world.

    Whoever hates Phil Schiller just hates himself. </strong><hr></blockquote>

    Ok Groverat, take off the sequence glove, the pan-cake makeup, and the jerry curls ...

    You're taking this whole kitsch-as-irony thing way too far!

    Oh christ, he's moonwalking ...
  • Reply 5 of 21
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    I like Phil. More "european" than Steve ***duck***.

    I just have one issue with him. Once and a while please try to to STAND STILL DAMMIT

    He uses to much mental capabilities to think "go left, now go right, left again..."

  • Reply 6 of 21
    bodhibodhi Posts: 1,424member
    He talks with his hands WAY too much!
  • Reply 7 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by Bodhi:

    <strong>He talks with his hands WAY too much!</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Just like about %90 of the people in the switch videos. LOL
  • Reply 8 of 21
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    Go Phil! His leap from the roof was one of the defining moments of Macintosh.

    And of all the Executive and Senior VPs, Phil Schiller seems to be being groomed to take over as the public face of Apple when Jobs goes. Yup.

    Fear Phil, for he will rule! Bwahahaha!

    [Edit: Uh, sorry, too much peanut butter, I think.]

    [ 09-13-2002: Message edited by: Belle ]</p>
  • Reply 9 of 21
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    All roads and pastries lead to Phil Schiller!

    He will kick Ballmer's ass. Jobs the vegan isn't tough enough.
  • Reply 10 of 21
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    Yeah. When Monkeyboy has done his little dance Phil will floor him in no time and his friend Mr. T will throw tah son-of-a-bitch hellua far away before he can say "I´m sorry I meant: I. Love. That. Mac. O. S. X. YEAH"



    Its "The Revenge of the Buisness Lunch"
  • Reply 11 of 21
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    And Apple even make better pr photos.
  • Reply 12 of 21
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    It's a running joke. When Steve demoed iChat at MWNY, he didn't have Phil Schiller in his iChat buddy list and Phil was very sad. Phil seemed pretty jolly at the Jaguar launch party in Palo Alto, heh.

    [ 09-13-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
  • Reply 13 of 21
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    So Phil is the small fat boy everybody else is kicking around the school yard?
  • Reply 14 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by Belle:


    Fear Phil, for he will rule! Bwahahaha!


    ... ok, now this is just getting frightening, in a "when you where a kid and the clown at your birthday party stubbed his toe and started swearing" kinda way.
  • Reply 15 of 21
    der kopfder kopf Posts: 2,275member
    Jeez, look at him... it's like that Tim Allen guy from Home Improvement. Sure he might be liked by middle-aged women, but an icon of Apple Inc.? not a chance.

    Apparantly Steve wouldn't be y'all's preferred son-in-law, but at least he has a bit of self-confidence, even if he wears clothes that would make any man, as old as he is, look and feel ridiculous.

    What is wrong with you people?

  • Reply 16 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by der Kopf:

    <strong>Jeez, look at him... it's like that Tim Allen guy from Home Improvement.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Thanks. I knew he reminded me of someone but I couldn't remember who, It was the sort of thing that was going to nag.
  • Reply 17 of 21
    jeffyboyjeffyboy Posts: 1,055member
    [quote]It's "The Revenge of the Business Lunch"<hr></blockquote>

    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />


    [ 09-13-2002: Message edited by: jeffyboy ]</p>
  • Reply 18 of 21
    frykefryke Posts: 217member
    Some day, Jonathan Ive will take over Steve Jobs' position at Apple. And you can clearly see it in this photo:

  • Reply 19 of 21
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Jobs is a businessman, a master at making sales-pitches.

    Ive is not, at least not from what I can tell.
  • Reply 20 of 21
    Oh, come on, Eugene.

    We ALL know that Ive *is* the next man in line.

    edit: Yes, it's sarcasm. I don't really think Ive would handle the job well either. He's best at designing furniture and toilets and computery stuff.

    [ 09-13-2002: Message edited by: Brad ]</p>
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