Latest Apple headquarters drone video depicts carbon fiber auditorium roof, solar installations

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While a company move-in date has not yet been established, the latest drone flight footage from the construction site shows a near-complete solar installation on several structures including the main headquarters, and depicts the largest carbon fiber roof in the world on the auditorium.




The underground auditorium was previously not enclosed all the way around, but is now nearly completely clad. The largest carbon fiber roof in the world has been uncovered, and is shown in the video.

Apple's main research and development building appears functionally complete from the exterior, with a full set of HVAC equipment installed for the first time. Significant progress on the Tantau Avenue research suite is shown as well.

The 20,000 car main parking structure appears to be complete with a full solar installation adorning the roof.

The main "spaceship" headquarters is completely covered in glass panels, and the solar assemblies on the roof also appears complete. Additionally, adjacent landscaping is being fleshed out

While a great deal of work remains on the entire campus, a large amount of work has been done on landscaping, and the area in the center of the "spaceship" since the last video in October, and this most recent one. the Structures in interior of donut underway, much work remains





In 2011, Steve Jobs announced the project to the world, saying over 12,000 employees would work in the 2.8-million-square-foot spaceship-styled structure. Edible landscaping, walking paths, and other "green" measures are being implemented during construction, to minimize the overall impact the facility makes on the environment.

Apple's related Phase 2 project adds additional workspace adjacent to the main headquarters, and includes a renewable energy-powered small data center.

A new micro-grid installed on the campus is reportedly capable of handling about 75 percent of the facility's power requirements during work hours, supplemented by Bloom Energy-provided fuel cells. Bloom Energy provided similar cells to Apple previously for use at the North Carolina data center.

The City of Cupertino recently announced delays for the Campus 2 project, indicating that main construction won't be done until the beginning of 2017, and that landscaping won't be finished until the second quarter of next year.
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  • Reply 1 of 33
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 4,641member
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    It kinda irks me how on other sites people whine and complain about how this is a waste of money and its taking resources away from Apple. This is why they aren't releasing anything, its way over budget, etc. This is complete and utter BS! This should be making Apple BETTER in the long haul. Its not taking any focus away from any team. Its not like the hardware team is sitting there designing something for the new campus, Apple has specific contractors and engineers for this. OS X isn't suffering because of this being built.

    What it should do in the end is combine all of the software teams into one section of the building instead of spreading them out over a 2hr drive away sometimes. Put the hardware teams into another section where they can better collaborate on projects, and then since the software team is also in the same building, they can also include them for their important input instead of doing whatever it is they're doing now whether its FaceTime conferences or making team leads drive 1-2hrs to Cupertino and then drive 1-2hrs back, wasting half the day just driving.

    I guess some people just don't get it. They want want want and don't care how it gets into their hands. They just want it and want it now. And it better be something they want when it comes out. Everyone knows how to run Apple better than Apple as always (even when Steve was there).
    edited November 2016 pbruttomike1JinTechpatchythepiratecornchipjony0
  • Reply 2 of 33
    is it legal to fly a drone like that over the building? what if it fails and crashes into the solar panels, etc? the guy leaves his name and contact info so seems like maybe its legal. just surprised.
  • Reply 3 of 33
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    Too bad we can't see the inside. I'm sure the majority of the interior is already done.
    edited November 2016
  • Reply 4 of 33
    schlack said:
    is it legal to fly a drone like that over the building? what if it fails and crashes into the solar panels, etc? the guy leaves his name and contact info so seems like maybe its legal. just surprised.
    Actually, I think it is not legal and all of the evidence is right there in these videos. Doesn't current law require a quadrocopter remain clearly in line of sight? There are many instances of this person's many videos where the remote copter dips inside various Apple structures.
    edited November 2016
  • Reply 5 of 33
    schlack said:
    is it legal to fly a drone like that over the building? what if it fails and crashes into the solar panels, etc? the guy leaves his name and contact info so seems like maybe its legal. just surprised.
    Actually, I think it is not legal and all of the evidence is right there in these videos. Doesn't current law require a quadrocopter remain clearly in line of sight? There are many instances of this person's many videos where the remote copter dips inside various Apple structures.
    There is nothing illegal about that drone flight. There is no law that saws a drone has to remain in line of sight. Apple Campus is close to the restrictions of flying near San Jose airport. 
  • Reply 6 of 33
    schlack said:
    is it legal to fly a drone like that over the building? what if it fails and crashes into the solar panels, etc? the guy leaves his name and contact info so seems like maybe its legal. just surprised.
    No. Apple doesn't own airspace. 
  • Reply 7 of 33
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,282member
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    Too bad we can't see the inside. I'm sure the majority of the interior is already done.
    Here's a thought ... has Apple designed the building to be easily upgraded as future technologies become available, or will they have to build a brand new building as it's existing technology becomes obsolete? ;-)
  • Reply 8 of 33
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,094member
    mac_128 said:
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    Too bad we can't see the inside. I'm sure the majority of the interior is already done.
    Here's a thought ... has Apple designed the building to be easily upgraded as future technologies become available, or will they have to build a brand new building as it's existing technology becomes obsolete? ;-)
    I think the chairs will be glued to floor ...
    Rayz2016mac_128
  • Reply 9 of 33
    512ke512ke Posts: 776member
    This is a huge construction project using American workers! Will Apple get some love from the new administration because of it? Yes *If Apple builds a giant coal power plant right in the middle of the 0
    Rayz2016welshdogai46
  • Reply 10 of 33
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,471member
    mac_128 said:
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    Too bad we can't see the inside. I'm sure the majority of the interior is already done.
    Here's a thought ... has Apple designed the building to be easily upgraded as future technologies become available, or will they have to build a brand new building as it's existing technology becomes obsolete? ;-)
    Reaching hard for something negative to say, are we? 

    Perovskite solar cell-ready? Oh no, they soldered these conventional ones to the roof!  

    Let's see what you can come up with.
    ai46
  • Reply 11 of 33
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 4,641member
    schlack said:
    is it legal to fly a drone like that over the building? what if it fails and crashes into the solar panels, etc? the guy leaves his name and contact info so seems like maybe its legal. just surprised.
    This has come up a few times. I'm not sure what city ordinances there are in Cupertino, but if there isn't anything preventing them from flying over AC 2 and filming then I can't see how anyone is going to stop someone, especially as long as its not impacting construction. 
  • Reply 12 of 33
    macxpress said:
    schlack said:
    is it legal to fly a drone like that over the building? what if it fails and crashes into the solar panels, etc? the guy leaves his name and contact info so seems like maybe its legal. just surprised.
    This has come up a few times. I'm not sure what city ordinances there are in Cupertino, but if there isn't anything preventing them from flying over AC 2 and filming then I can't see how anyone is going to stop someone, especially as long as its not impacting construction. 
    The only thing that would possibly be illegal is if whoever shot the video didn't have the proper paperwork to fly drones for commercial use. Technically, you can get in trouble for posting drone videos on YouTube since that is considered commercial use by the FAA. 
    randominternetperson
  • Reply 13 of 33
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 1,884member
    macxpress said:
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    It kinda irks me how on other sites people whine and complain about how this is a waste of money and its taking resources away from Apple. This is why they aren't releasing anything, its way over budget, etc. This is complete and utter BS! This should be making Apple BETTER in the long haul. Its not taking any focus away from any team. Its not like the hardware team is sitting there designing something for the new campus, Apple has specific contractors and engineers for this. OS X isn't suffering because of this being built.

    What it should do in the end is combine all of the software teams into one section of the building instead of spreading them out over a 2hr drive away sometimes. Put the hardware teams into another section where they can better collaborate on projects, and then since the software team is also in the same building, they can also include them for their important input instead of doing whatever it is they're doing now whether its FaceTime conferences or making team leads drive 1-2hrs to Cupertino and then drive 1-2hrs back, wasting half the day just driving.

    I guess some people just don't get it. They want want want and don't care how it gets into their hands. They just want it and want it now. And it better be something they want when it comes out. Everyone knows how to run Apple better than Apple as always (even when Steve was there).
    I have nothing against the new campus -- Apple can easily afford it and I believe it will be worthwhile. 

    But I think you're going way too far in dismissing all criticism of Apple's inability to get things done. Here's a nice analysis piece on the difficult issue facing Apple right now:
     
    http://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/11/27/13706776/apple-functional-divisional

    While I don't want Apple to become GE, I also think that it is vitally important for Apple to figure out how to do more things at once. They're better at that now today than they were in 2007, but they need to improve even more. It's not an easy problem to solve, but pretending there's no problem guarantees no solution will be found. 
  • Reply 14 of 33
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 4,468member
    blastdoor said:
    macxpress said:
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    It kinda irks me how on other sites people whine and complain about how this is a waste of money and its taking resources away from Apple. This is why they aren't releasing anything, its way over budget, etc. This is complete and utter BS! This should be making Apple BETTER in the long haul. Its not taking any focus away from any team. Its not like the hardware team is sitting there designing something for the new campus, Apple has specific contractors and engineers for this. OS X isn't suffering because of this being built.

    What it should do in the end is combine all of the software teams into one section of the building instead of spreading them out over a 2hr drive away sometimes. Put the hardware teams into another section where they can better collaborate on projects, and then since the software team is also in the same building, they can also include them for their important input instead of doing whatever it is they're doing now whether its FaceTime conferences or making team leads drive 1-2hrs to Cupertino and then drive 1-2hrs back, wasting half the day just driving.

    I guess some people just don't get it. They want want want and don't care how it gets into their hands. They just want it and want it now. And it better be something they want when it comes out. Everyone knows how to run Apple better than Apple as always (even when Steve was there).
    I have nothing against the new campus -- Apple can easily afford it and I believe it will be worthwhile. 

    But I think you're going way too far in dismissing all criticism of Apple's inability to get things done. Here's a nice analysis piece on the difficult issue facing Apple right now:
     
    http://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/11/27/13706776/apple-functional-divisional

    While I don't want Apple to become GE, I also think that it is vitally important for Apple to figure out how to do more things at once. They're better at that now today than they were in 2007, but they need to improve even more. It's not an easy problem to solve, but pretending there's no problem guarantees no solution will be found. 
    Apple doesn't do one thing at once. They release one thing at once. 
  • Reply 15 of 33
    blastdoor said:
    macxpress said:
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    It kinda irks me how on other sites people whine and complain about how this is a waste of money and its taking resources away from Apple. This is why they aren't releasing anything, its way over budget, etc. This is complete and utter BS! This should be making Apple BETTER in the long haul. Its not taking any focus away from any team. Its not like the hardware team is sitting there designing something for the new campus, Apple has specific contractors and engineers for this. OS X isn't suffering because of this being built.

    What it should do in the end is combine all of the software teams into one section of the building instead of spreading them out over a 2hr drive away sometimes. Put the hardware teams into another section where they can better collaborate on projects, and then since the software team is also in the same building, they can also include them for their important input instead of doing whatever it is they're doing now whether its FaceTime conferences or making team leads drive 1-2hrs to Cupertino and then drive 1-2hrs back, wasting half the day just driving.

    I guess some people just don't get it. They want want want and don't care how it gets into their hands. They just want it and want it now. And it better be something they want when it comes out. Everyone knows how to run Apple better than Apple as always (even when Steve was there).
    I have nothing against the new campus -- Apple can easily afford it and I believe it will be worthwhile. 

    But I think you're going way too far in dismissing all criticism of Apple's inability to get things done. Here's a nice analysis piece on the difficult issue facing Apple right now:
     
    http://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/11/27/13706776/apple-functional-divisional

    While I don't want Apple to become GE, I also think that it is vitally important for Apple to figure out how to do more things at once. They're better at that now today than they were in 2007, but they need to improve even more. It's not an easy problem to solve, but pretending there's no problem guarantees no solution will be found. 
    Maybe GE isn't the right model for Apple, but 3M (at their peak) might be a better model to strive for. They have multiple divisions with individual leaders responsible for product development and making sure they hit their ROI numbers or the division would be shut down. Come to think of it, this is basically what Google recently did by splitting up the company into divisions under the Alphabet brand.

    Letting core assets of Apple languish and die off because they refuse to commit resources to serve their own customers (I refer to the pro market, specifically) is just unbelievably shortsighted.
    edited November 2016
  • Reply 16 of 33
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,588member
    flaneur said:
    mac_128 said:
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    Too bad we can't see the inside. I'm sure the majority of the interior is already done.
    Here's a thought ... has Apple designed the building to be easily upgraded as future technologies become available, or will they have to build a brand new building as it's existing technology becomes obsolete? ;-)
    Reaching hard for something negative to say, are we? 

    Perovskite solar cell-ready? Oh no, they soldered these conventional ones to the roof!  

    Let's see what you can come up with.
    Here's something - Much as the building (the whole complex) is hugely impressive, it is also kind of 'daunting' and a little 'intimidating'. The scale and circular construction creates a feeling of impenetrability. Nothing really bad about that but something this massive creates a kind of Death Star feeling. 

    Is this Apple's next HQ?




    edited November 2016
  • Reply 17 of 33
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 1,884member
    blastdoor said:
    macxpress said:
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    It kinda irks me how on other sites people whine and complain about how this is a waste of money and its taking resources away from Apple. This is why they aren't releasing anything, its way over budget, etc. This is complete and utter BS! This should be making Apple BETTER in the long haul. Its not taking any focus away from any team. Its not like the hardware team is sitting there designing something for the new campus, Apple has specific contractors and engineers for this. OS X isn't suffering because of this being built.

    What it should do in the end is combine all of the software teams into one section of the building instead of spreading them out over a 2hr drive away sometimes. Put the hardware teams into another section where they can better collaborate on projects, and then since the software team is also in the same building, they can also include them for their important input instead of doing whatever it is they're doing now whether its FaceTime conferences or making team leads drive 1-2hrs to Cupertino and then drive 1-2hrs back, wasting half the day just driving.

    I guess some people just don't get it. They want want want and don't care how it gets into their hands. They just want it and want it now. And it better be something they want when it comes out. Everyone knows how to run Apple better than Apple as always (even when Steve was there).
    I have nothing against the new campus -- Apple can easily afford it and I believe it will be worthwhile. 

    But I think you're going way too far in dismissing all criticism of Apple's inability to get things done. Here's a nice analysis piece on the difficult issue facing Apple right now:
     
    http://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/11/27/13706776/apple-functional-divisional

    While I don't want Apple to become GE, I also think that it is vitally important for Apple to figure out how to do more things at once. They're better at that now today than they were in 2007, but they need to improve even more. It's not an easy problem to solve, but pretending there's no problem guarantees no solution will be found. 
    Maybe GE isn't the right model for Apple, but 3M (at their peak) might be a better model to strive for. They have multiple divisions with individual leaders responsible for product development and making sure they hit their ROI numbers or the division would be shut down. Come to think of it, this is basically what Google recently did by splitting up the company into divisions under the Alphabet brand.

    Letting core assets of Apple languish and die off because they refuse to commit resources to serve their own customers (I refer to the pro market, specifically) is just unbelievably shortsighted.
    It's tricky, though, because of positive externalities generated by each product for the overall ecosystem. For example, maybe if you look at ROI for TimeCapsule you shut down that product, but if you look at how the existence of TimeCapsule ultimately boosts sales of Macs and iDevices, then maybe you don't. 

    I think there are two big problems facing Apple:

    1. Bottlenecks. If Jony Ive is trying to act like SJ and personally sign off on every product that goes out the door, then that's a huge bottleneck that limits the number of products Apple can sell. That might be what forced apple to cancel product lines that are good of the ecosystem, even if they are small (displays; TimeCapsule). 

    2. Lack of focus on customer needs. If Jony Ive is ignoring data on what Pro customers want in order to make Macs that meet his personal aesthetic preferences, then that contributes to Apple replacing the big honking Mac Pro tower that met the needs of a diverse group of pros with the little cylinder that meets the needs of a much narrower group of people but looks pretty. 

    Maybe Apple needs more of a matrix management structure, where there are orthogonal, overlapping lines of responsibility. 

    But whatever they come up with, they need to come up with something. Their current organization is having problems. 

    zoetmb
  • Reply 18 of 33
    mac_128 said:
    Nice to see this is coming along. Hopefully they can put the finishing touches on it soon and start getting some employees moving in. I can't wait to see it when its completely finished with all the landscaping and everything. Maybe in March or so Apple can do a keynote from their brand new auditorium and release something nice.

    Too bad we can't see the inside. I'm sure the majority of the interior is already done.
    Here's a thought ... has Apple designed the building to be easily upgraded as future technologies become available, or will they have to build a brand new building as it's existing technology becomes obsolete? ;-)

    The advantage of the circular design it that they could have Wi-Fi towers in the center, reaching the entire circumference, and easily upgrade that as new tech comes out, instead of having hotspots physically wired into the building.
    mac_128
  • Reply 19 of 33
    Was this video rushed out? Several typos and lack of attention to detail.

    Some examples from the captions:
    • Labeled "December" when it's still November.
    • "apple" - lowercase name?
    • "custom made" - this should be hyphenated
    • "Atruim" - should be "Atrium"

    I know it's against the rules to point out simple typos and grammatical errors in forum comments, but what about the content that this entire discussion is about? I think it's important that we highlight when people are lazy in this world, and this video is an example, even though I'm very grateful for someone taking the time to create it. I just wish they spent an extra 5 minutes making sure it was done to a higher standard. Or am I just being picky to expect better?

    Soli
  • Reply 20 of 33
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,360member
    macxpress said:
    It kinda irks me how on other sites people whine and complain about how this is a waste of money and its taking resources away from Apple. This is why they aren't releasing anything, its way over budget, etc. This is complete and utter BS! This should be making Apple BETTER in the long haul. Its not taking any focus away from any team. Its not like the hardware team is sitting there designing something for the new campus, Apple has specific contractors and engineers for this. OS X isn't suffering because of this being built.

    What it should do in the end is combine all of the software teams into one section of the building instead of spreading them out over a 2hr drive away sometimes. Put the hardware teams into another section where they can better collaborate on projects, and then since the software team is also in the same building, they can also include them for their important input instead of doing whatever it is they're doing now whether its FaceTime conferences or making team leads drive 1-2hrs to Cupertino and then drive 1-2hrs back, wasting half the day just driving.

    While I agree that the building construction has little or nothing to do with day-to-day development, one does have to wonder who at Apple is supervising the construction and making decisions when issues come up.  Is it Cook?  Ive?   who?   And you know there's going to be all kinds of problems once the building is complete:  HVAC, leaks, noise, etc.  There always is even in traditional and easy office construction.  This always takes away from productivity.  

    Furthermore, Apple development over the last few years, with the possible exception of the Apple Watch, has been highly iterative.  I often wonder what all those employees aside from those who fill the distribution channels are actually doing.   I've seen all kinds of numbers about how many people Apple employs, but one from early 2016 claims 120,000 (I presume that's worldwide and includes retail).  

    Not that I ever truly believed Apple was really building a car, but that project seems pretty much dead.   The Apple Watch certainly hasn't taken over the world.  The iPhone obviously does very well, but when was the last time Apple added something to it that made a substantive difference?   The OLED strip on the new MBPs is original and interesting, but everything else about the machine is iterative and it's way overpriced as well as being completely non-upgradable and pretty much non-repairable.  And now Apple seems out of the monitor business and out of the router business and maybe out of the Mac mini and Pro tower business.   Aside from minor upgrades, they seem to have abandoned the pro applications.  Every time they touch the consumer applications, they seem to make them worse.   They seem to constantly make small changes that are incredibly annoying, like a recent change to Safari so it no longer displays the size of images as it used to.    In iOS, a recent upgrade to iTunes now orders Songs by artist instead of alphabetical by song title.   What the fuck is the point of that?  What idiot made that decision and who let them?  Why do they constantly break things that were working?

    I don't believe Watch sales are great, otherwise Apple would break them out.   Pad sales seem slow.   So really - what the hell is everyone working on, especially since they can't seem to advance the art until Intel gets their act together.  While the word is that once the new building is complete, Apple is keeping the other campus (although supposedly getting rid of all the leased space around Cupertino), that probably means a substantial increase in head count.

    So if a year from move-in, this results in a constantly flowing line of great new products, then everything will be fine.  But if it means just more iteration of the existing product line, I think Apple will really have blown it and the very expensive new building would have been a waste (except as a giant tax deduction).  I sincerely hope that will all that headcount,  space and R&D facilities that Apple has a bunch of very big things up its sleeve that we haven't even thought of yet.   I've always thought that 15 years from now, Apple would be an AI and Robotics company, but people usually think I'm nuts when I say that.   But something must be going on, otherwise they're building an empty monument to a company that while still is very successful financially, has lost its mojo.   And Apple cannot survive as a one product (iPhone) company.

    Apple's other big Achilles heal is its arrogance.   While I agree with the Jobs mantra that customers don't necessarily know what they want, Apple doesn't seem to listen to its customers at all.   Apple may know better when it comes to UX and UI (although I think that's been inferior to the past in recent years), but customers understand their own workflow far better than Apple does.   And this business of prioritizing form over function has to end and it won't until Ive decides to leave.   Ive is like the anorexic girl who never thinks she's thin enough.    I've been with Apple products since Apple's beginning, but I'm seriously thinking of buying a Windows laptop as my next machine.  As much as I hate Windows, I simply can't see paying what it will cost me for a new topped out MBP when there are alternatives at half the price with pretty much the same components inside.   
    zimmermann
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