That post was in reference to the aptly-named penhead BTW.
Keep in mind that de Plume was wrong about MWSF. He said to expect G4's based on the 7460 and if I remember correctly something way off about the iMac.
<strong>No, this is not Apple disinformation. If it were, Apple would have to prematurely end the new Crystal clear savings. Has Apple ever done that before?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, as a matter of fact, yes, they have ended promos early in the past. I can recall late last summer when apple was running a promo where you would get a free CD-RW drive when you bought a Titanium Powerbook, they ended it about two weeks early, and, shortly thereafter came new PowerBooks with built-in CD-RW drives.
And the fact is, they really wouldn't have to end the promo. If you read all the paperwork for the Crystal Clear rebate it rather specifically ties the promotion to the current specifications, 800, 933 and dual 1gz. So, Apple could easily introduce new machines, the promotion simply wouldn't apply to the new apples, and it would help clear the inventory of the old models.
But anywho? What was the last thing Think Secret was wrong about? I mean like totally dead wrong?
[quote]Originally posted by Spart:
<strong>Keep in mind that de Plume was wrong about MWSF. He said to expect G4's based on the 7460 and if I remember correctly something way off about the iMac.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Um, actually, this is exactly what Think Secret had to say about PowerMacs at MWSF
<strong>We're hearing various reports on this front even this close to Expo, and we simply do not have enough confidence to confirm there will be a 1GHz G4 announcement. We are confident Power Macs with a G5 processor will not be announced, despite ridiculous reports from other places.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Gee, sounds pretty good to me. And he was actually quite spot-on about the flat panel imacs, though he stated that the G3 imac would get a speed bump and new colors, along with new colors for the iBook. While he was off on that note, it is important to note that they did get the Flat panel iMac specs right, and they were expecting *something* to happen to the ibook, when no one else saw a revision coming.
Overall, ThinkSecret is a pretty damn conservative rumor site. What does strike me is the change of tone in that new article. It really doesn't read the same as what's usually on the site. It feels more emotional, more urgent.
I don't doubt that we'll see a 17" iMac, it makes perfect sense, and if they introduce that, along with slightly enhanced specs, maybe an iMac Special Edition of sorts, and then slash the price on the current models by $200 or so, I think we'll be good. Of course, they don't call the iBook 14" a "special edition" so maybe not.
Anywho, I really don't think a 17" iMac and a Jaguar demo are going to be enough to keep the crowd going, so I really expect we'll see somethign new going on in the digital device arena.
I mean, really though, who knows until next wednesday anyway.
<strong>That post was in reference to the aptly-named penhead BTW.
Keep in mind that de Plume was wrong about MWSF. He said to expect G4's based on the 7460 and if I remember correctly something way off about the iMac.</strong><hr></blockquote>
yeah, in Mid/Early Dec dePlume said we would have 1.4Ghz G4 PowerMacs at MacWorld SF, with 266MHz DDR SDRAM, and Firewire 2.
Well Cnet is saying basically the same thing and they have been RIGHT ON for over a year now, seriously. They are the only ones that nailed the iPod at least a week before it was unveiled.
The old one's are selling so terribly that channels are clogged up and Apple cannot announce new Powermacs until the old are sold. Hah! That is so funny, Apple is shooting themselves in the foot by offering such antiquated hardware. The tit's run dry! Apple must produce competitive Powermacs or suffer the consequences....they are going to go belly up if they don't get out a new mobo and faster CPUs soon, as in, before Sept.
You know what, I guess I need to start thinking logically here.
What better place to show off a new iMac with a bigger screen then MacWorld Expo?
"Look everyone. Look at the awesome larger screen".
Yeah, Macworld would be a lousy place to intro new PowerMacs. You know, there is only like a hundred thousand people who will be there.
Why show a new Powermac with faster clockspeeds, faster frontside bus, DDR ram, Firewire 2, new cases to match new LCD displays?
That would be pretty stupid of Apple.
And not to mention the new Apple Store opening up the next day. Apple will get to put up huge banners touting the new big iMac display. What a technological feat! Apple jacked up the screen display by 2" and costs only 2 grand now!
Whew! I thought I was smoking some serious crack or something. Apple has a great plan here.
MacWorld, the world debut of the 17" iMac.
That will be the front page news on all the world newspapers. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
[quote] Tells you in what regards Apple places the Powermac. <hr></blockquote>
huh? give me a break. you have no idea why this may or may not happen and why or why not the powermac line is in the state its in. but since you think you know please send in an application to apple.com so they can use your "skills" in getting the next powermac out the door and that you alone can tell them in what regard they should place the powermac.
I'm still trying to figure out how the discounts are going to help clear out the extra inventory. They only apply if you buy a tower and a nice expensive LCD monitor. What about all of us who just want the tower and already have a very nice monitor? I don't see a huge market for monitors priced at $1k, $2.5k and $3.5k.
[quote] Now wonder why this pathetic turd is not going to be shown <hr></blockquote>
<sarcasm>
and if it is delayed by 3 WHOLE weeks then shame on apple for not wanting to sell out their current inventory and earn as much for their shareholders and they can.
[quote] If a 17"iMac wins over a new Powermac, something is certainly wrong.<hr></blockquote>
yes. there is. turns out apple can't predict the future sales patterns in an uneasy economy just like the gateways and dells.
A shareholder might say there is something right about apple trying to blow out as much inventory as possible before having to take a major loss by delivering them to the dump.
I hope for new machines as much as the next guy but didn't we here for over a year that they were trying to move away from macworld annoucnements HAVING to be about big new products. I did. that mean we have no one to blame but ourselves for a letdown that may or may not happen in a week.
even if dePlume doesnt know what he is talking about, MacMinute, who is almost always right, just posted there own version of the "no Powermac/ 17" iMac" story. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> That is always a bad sign.
Of course they could all be running of the same source, which is what I think is happening. Now I have no idea what to believe. Please give us new Powermacs apple!
cobra, i think that makes sense for you and me. but there are a lot of people that do not come to these boards before buying a mac.
and what if they are not only trying blow out powermacs but they are also try to blowout OLD STYLE lcds. maybe the new ones will be white and they are trying to kill 2 birds with one stone.
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Keep in mind that de Plume was wrong about MWSF. He said to expect G4's based on the 7460 and if I remember correctly something way off about the iMac.
<strong>No, this is not Apple disinformation. If it were, Apple would have to prematurely end the new Crystal clear savings. Has Apple ever done that before?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, as a matter of fact, yes, they have ended promos early in the past. I can recall late last summer when apple was running a promo where you would get a free CD-RW drive when you bought a Titanium Powerbook, they ended it about two weeks early, and, shortly thereafter came new PowerBooks with built-in CD-RW drives.
And the fact is, they really wouldn't have to end the promo. If you read all the paperwork for the Crystal Clear rebate it rather specifically ties the promotion to the current specifications, 800, 933 and dual 1gz. So, Apple could easily introduce new machines, the promotion simply wouldn't apply to the new apples, and it would help clear the inventory of the old models.
But anywho? What was the last thing Think Secret was wrong about? I mean like totally dead wrong?
[quote]Originally posted by Spart:
<strong>Keep in mind that de Plume was wrong about MWSF. He said to expect G4's based on the 7460 and if I remember correctly something way off about the iMac.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Um, actually, this is exactly what Think Secret had to say about PowerMacs at MWSF
[quote]Originally at:
<a href="http://www.thinksecret.com/features/mwsf02.html"; target="_blank">think secret</a>
<strong>We're hearing various reports on this front even this close to Expo, and we simply do not have enough confidence to confirm there will be a 1GHz G4 announcement. We are confident Power Macs with a G5 processor will not be announced, despite ridiculous reports from other places.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Gee, sounds pretty good to me. And he was actually quite spot-on about the flat panel imacs, though he stated that the G3 imac would get a speed bump and new colors, along with new colors for the iBook. While he was off on that note, it is important to note that they did get the Flat panel iMac specs right, and they were expecting *something* to happen to the ibook, when no one else saw a revision coming.
Overall, ThinkSecret is a pretty damn conservative rumor site. What does strike me is the change of tone in that new article. It really doesn't read the same as what's usually on the site. It feels more emotional, more urgent.
I don't doubt that we'll see a 17" iMac, it makes perfect sense, and if they introduce that, along with slightly enhanced specs, maybe an iMac Special Edition of sorts, and then slash the price on the current models by $200 or so, I think we'll be good. Of course, they don't call the iBook 14" a "special edition" so maybe not.
Anywho, I really don't think a 17" iMac and a Jaguar demo are going to be enough to keep the crowd going, so I really expect we'll see somethign new going on in the digital device arena.
I mean, really though, who knows until next wednesday anyway.
ciao,
michael
[ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: scadboy ]</p>
<strong>That post was in reference to the aptly-named penhead BTW.
Keep in mind that de Plume was wrong about MWSF. He said to expect G4's based on the 7460 and if I remember correctly something way off about the iMac.</strong><hr></blockquote>
yeah, in Mid/Early Dec dePlume said we would have 1.4Ghz G4 PowerMacs at MacWorld SF, with 266MHz DDR SDRAM, and Firewire 2.
[ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: scadboy ]</p>
The old one's are selling so terribly that channels are clogged up and Apple cannot announce new Powermacs until the old are sold. Hah! That is so funny, Apple is shooting themselves in the foot by offering such antiquated hardware. The tit's run dry! Apple must produce competitive Powermacs or suffer the consequences....they are going to go belly up if they don't get out a new mobo and faster CPUs soon, as in, before Sept.
Well, from what I have been reading, there are HUGE inventories of 15'" iMacs as well.
If they are not selling, how is a 17" model going to sell?
Maybe its just me I guess.
Oh, and here:
<a href="http://www.macminute.com/lib/020709imac.shtml"; target="_blank">http://www.macminute.com/lib/020709imac.shtml</A>;
[ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: Cobra ]</p>
What better place to show off a new iMac with a bigger screen then MacWorld Expo?
"Look everyone. Look at the awesome larger screen".
Yeah, Macworld would be a lousy place to intro new PowerMacs. You know, there is only like a hundred thousand people who will be there.
Why show a new Powermac with faster clockspeeds, faster frontside bus, DDR ram, Firewire 2, new cases to match new LCD displays?
That would be pretty stupid of Apple.
And not to mention the new Apple Store opening up the next day. Apple will get to put up huge banners touting the new big iMac display. What a technological feat! Apple jacked up the screen display by 2" and costs only 2 grand now!
Whew! I thought I was smoking some serious crack or something. Apple has a great plan here.
MacWorld, the world debut of the 17" iMac.
That will be the front page news on all the world newspapers. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
[ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: Cobra ]</p>
Tells you in what regards Apple places the Powermac.
Well, don't expect clockspeeds of better than 1.2 GHZ now. I had truly expected better.
Don't see Firewire 2 or a faster FSB either now. I give in on the DDR ram as it is out on the X Serve.
No wonder why this pathetic turd is not going to be shown.
Is another 3-4 weeks really going to matter?
<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
[ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: Cobra ]
[ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: Cobra ]</p>
huh? give me a break. you have no idea why this may or may not happen and why or why not the powermac line is in the state its in. but since you think you know please send in an application to apple.com so they can use your "skills" in getting the next powermac out the door and that you alone can tell them in what regard they should place the powermac.
double <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
I know, this might not be true but seems to be the most credible tidbit to date.
If a 17"iMac wins over a new Powermac, something is certainly wrong.
<sarcasm>
and if it is delayed by 3 WHOLE weeks then shame on apple for not wanting to sell out their current inventory and earn as much for their shareholders and they can.
</sarcasm>
Either they were to expensive to begin with or people are looking for more performance.
One of the two.
You got a point.
What if you don't need the freakin screen?
No discount for you!
It doesn't help the inventory situation alot, IMO.
yes. there is. turns out apple can't predict the future sales patterns in an uneasy economy just like the gateways and dells.
A shareholder might say there is something right about apple trying to blow out as much inventory as possible before having to take a major loss by delivering them to the dump.
I hope for new machines as much as the next guy but didn't we here for over a year that they were trying to move away from macworld annoucnements HAVING to be about big new products. I did. that mean we have no one to blame but ourselves for a letdown that may or may not happen in a week.
I repeat what Jeff brought up.
You HAVE to buy a overpriced display ranging from $1000.00 to $3500.00 to enjoy the big savings.
Whats wrong with that picture?
Of course they could all be running of the same source, which is what I think is happening. Now I have no idea what to believe. Please give us new Powermacs apple!
[ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: crazylb1 ]</p>
and what if they are not only trying blow out powermacs but they are also try to blowout OLD STYLE lcds. maybe the new ones will be white and they are trying to kill 2 birds with one stone.
i'd say thats at least possible...