Ikea Tradfri smart bulb system will get Apple HomeKit upgrade in the summer

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In late summer or early autumn Ikea will roll out a firmware update to its Tradfri network gateway, to make its line of smart bulbs compatible with Apple's HomeKit.




The addition was announced by Ikea on Tuesday. While the proclamation is from Ikea headquarters in the Netherlands, the firmware update will likely be international as there is no difference between the European hardware, and the U.S. version.

The Tradfri system from Ikea spans nearly every kind of residential light bulb connector, with desk lamp compatible E12, Edison connector E27, and fixture-compatible GU10 bulbs available in the system. A network gateway plugs into an Ethernet connector on a router or hub, allowing for the iOS app to control connected bulbs.

By itself, a stand-alone bulb and a dimmer remote that can control up to 10 bulbs retails for $19.99. A motion sensor kit with a single bulb retails for $25.

To use the Tradfri system either now with the Ikea app or after HomeKit compatiblity is added, the gateway is required, and sells for $30. Individual bulbs are available for as low as $11.99.




The Tradfri app requires iOS 8, and occupies 41.5 MB of device storage space.

The firmware update will also add Alexa and Google Assistant compatibility.

Introduced in 2014, HomeKit allows users to connect to a variety of compatible so-called "internet of things" devices through the iOS Home app in conjunction with each other, as opposed to a series of disconnected interfaces.
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  • Reply 1 of 21
    EsquireCatsEsquireCats Posts: 502member
    There is a real opportunity for ikea to be the goto solution for not just homekit, but all home automation lighting. Their offerings are cheap, their product selection is wide and their distribution network is significant. No current provider is offering that magic three as yet.
    badmonkpropodrazorpit
  • Reply 2 of 21
    surely homekit was always planned if this is a firmware upgrade as afaik, homekit required the use of certain certified, compatible chips. Also time-wise they must surely have been seeking apple homekit certification some time ago given the time it appears to take other companies to achieve this (many months if not years).
  • Reply 3 of 21
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,115member
    I had zero interest in these products, but now I'm paying attention. 
    razorpit
  • Reply 4 of 21
    Does anyone have experience with any of these bulbs yet? Are they any good? Also, what are those colored pucks to the right of the first 3 bulbs in the photo?
  • Reply 5 of 21
    polymniapolymnia Posts: 902member
    Does anyone have experience with any of these bulbs yet? Are they any good? Also, what are those colored pucks to the right of the first 3 bulbs in the photo?
    Quality is important to me as well. So far the Hue bulbs have performed best of the ones I've used. Unfortunately, they are quite expensive. And I'm going to be putting them in a lot of IKEA lMos, kinda funny. I imagine the quality of Hue bulbs is due to the smarts happening in-bulb. But maybe if IKEA controls the fixture, bulb & gateway they are able to approach that level of integration and quality?
  • Reply 6 of 21
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,339administrator
    Does anyone have experience with any of these bulbs yet? Are they any good? Also, what are those colored pucks to the right of the first 3 bulbs in the photo?
    Dimmer switches.

    I've only played with a few at my local Ikea -- not long enough to tell if they're any good or not. We'll be examining them after the HomeKit patch launches.
    edited May 2017
  • Reply 7 of 21
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,339administrator

    adm1 said:
    surely homekit was always planned if this is a firmware upgrade as afaik, homekit required the use of certain certified, compatible chips. Also time-wise they must surely have been seeking apple homekit certification some time ago given the time it appears to take other companies to achieve this (many months if not years).
    It may have been. The bulbs as they stand communicate with a pre-upgraded Philips Hue bridge, but not properly with an upgraded one.
  • Reply 8 of 21
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,215member
    Saving me a couple of dollars on a bulb isn't going to sway me from Hue.  However I do like those LED Panels and 
    that's an area where Philips does not have a product.  It's basically Nanoleaf Aurora and this for now (excluding importing from China through Aliexpress) 


  • Reply 9 of 21
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 7,085member
    Does anyone have experience with any of these bulbs yet? Are they any good? Also, what are those colored pucks to the right of the first 3 bulbs in the photo?
    Dimmer switches.

    I've only played with a few at my local Ikea -- not long enough to tell if they're any good or not. We'll be examining them after the HomeKit patch launches.
    I don't think those puck shapes next to the first three bulbs are dimmer switches. The other, flatter pucks on the right-most bulbs look like dimmers since they have buttons and icons. But not those first three. 
    edited May 2017
  • Reply 10 of 21
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,339administrator
    Does anyone have experience with any of these bulbs yet? Are they any good? Also, what are those colored pucks to the right of the first 3 bulbs in the photo?
    Dimmer switches.

    I've only played with a few at my local Ikea -- not long enough to tell if they're any good or not. We'll be examining them after the HomeKit patch launches.
    I don't think those puck shapes next to the first three bulbs are dimmer switches. The other, flatter pucks on the right-most bulbs look like dimmers since they have buttons and icons. But not those first three. 
    It is a dimmer switch. Source: personal inspection, and:

    http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00349934/

    The other one is the system's "remote control." The dimmer switch controls the bulb that it is paired with. The remote control can do a bunch at once.
    edited May 2017
  • Reply 11 of 21
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 4,556member
    What I really want from IKEA is an app that will show me how to get out of the store without having to walk through every single department.

    But their meatballs are delicious, so swings and roundabouts.
    edited May 2017 glynhrazorpit
  • Reply 12 of 21
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,339administrator
    Rayz2016 said:
    What I really want from IKEA is an app that will show me how to get out of the store without walking through every single department.
    The app hosts store maps that include most of the shortcuts.
    propod
  • Reply 13 of 21
    Does anyone have experience with any of these bulbs yet? Are they any good? Also, what are those colored pucks to the right of the first 3 bulbs in the photo?
    Dimmer switches.

    I've only played with a few at my local Ikea -- not long enough to tell if they're any good or not. We'll be examining them after the HomeKit patch launches.
    Interesting, thanks.

    I'll be curious to know after the patch if they work with the upgraded Hue Bridge.  I have a few spots in the house where it would be nice to have an inexpensive HomeKit bulb that would work with what I already have.
  • Reply 14 of 21
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,339administrator
    Does anyone have experience with any of these bulbs yet? Are they any good? Also, what are those colored pucks to the right of the first 3 bulbs in the photo?
    Dimmer switches.

    I've only played with a few at my local Ikea -- not long enough to tell if they're any good or not. We'll be examining them after the HomeKit patch launches.
    Interesting, thanks.

    I'll be curious to know after the patch if they work with the upgraded Hue Bridge.  I have a few spots in the house where it would be nice to have an inexpensive HomeKit bulb that would work with what I already have.
    That's a good question. The reason that they don't work right now is the bulb mis-identifies itself to the Hue Bridge. If Ikea fixes that, then presumably it would.
  • Reply 15 of 21
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 3,976member
    Now, that's what I've been waiting for. Let Ikea take care of HomeKit compatible devices with affordable prices. Current Apple HomeKit devices are jokingly expensive. That's why I refuse to use them but those Alexa compatible ones.
    propod
  • Reply 16 of 21
    fallenjt said:
    Now, that's what I've been waiting for. Let Ikea take care of HomeKit compatible devices with affordable prices. Current Apple HomeKit devices are jokingly expensive. That's why I refuse to use them but those Alexa compatible ones.
    I may be wrong but I thought the ones that are not HomeKit compatible lack the security features that make the extra cost worthwhile. 
  • Reply 17 of 21
    command_fcommand_f Posts: 289member
    While the proclamation is from Ikea headquarters in the Netherlands,

    Ikea, that wonderful flat-pack company, is actually Swedish, not Dutch (note the .se address). I know it all looks the same at that distance but it matters to us on this side of the pond.

    Now, tell me again, which coast is California on?  ;)
    edited May 2017
  • Reply 18 of 21
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,339administrator
    command_f said:
    While the proclamation is from Ikea headquarters in the Netherlands,

    Ikea, that wonderful flat-pack company, is actually Swedish, not Dutch (note the .se address). I know it all looks the same at that distance but it matters to us on this side of the pond.

    Now, tell me again, which coast is California on?  ;)
    The headquarters is in Delft, Netherlands is it not? That's what the PR says, at least.
    edited May 2017
  • Reply 19 of 21
    command_fcommand_f Posts: 289member
    command_f said:
    While the proclamation is from Ikea headquarters in the Netherlands,

    Ikea, that wonderful flat-pack company, is actually Swedish, not Dutch (note the .se address). I know it all looks the same at that distance but it matters to us on this side of the pond.

    Now, tell me again, which coast is California on?  ;)
    The headquarters is in Delft, Netherlands is it not? That's what the PR says, at least.
    Well I'm d*mned! You're quite right, looks like a tax avoidance (i.e. legal) strategy. Their structure seems to be a tad complicated (wikipedia), I bet the move was popular in Sweden!
  • Reply 20 of 21
    polymniapolymnia Posts: 902member
    command_f said:
    command_f said:
    While the proclamation is from Ikea headquarters in the Netherlands,

    Ikea, that wonderful flat-pack company, is actually Swedish, not Dutch (note the .se address). I know it all looks the same at that distance but it matters to us on this side of the pond.

    Now, tell me again, which coast is California on?  ;)
    The headquarters is in Delft, Netherlands is it not? That's what the PR says, at least.
    Well I'm d*mned! You're quite right, looks like a tax avoidance (i.e. legal) strategy. Their structure seems to be a tad complicated (wikipedia), I bet the move was popular in Sweden!
    I assume your assertion of Ikea's headquarters location being a tax avoidance strategy is as thoroughly researched as your original criticism of our long-suffering editor.
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