Supply chain remains skeptical Apple can embed Touch ID fingerprint sensor into 'iPhone 8'...
A list of 10 features that the "iPhone 8" will have -- or lack -- has been published by noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who believes Apple will not embed a Touch ID sensor under the screen.

The list was provided to Street Insider by Ming-Chi Kuo, an analyst with KGI Securities. The vast majority of the claims about the "iPhone 8" have already been reported by AppleInsider, but the lack of an under-screen Touch ID sensor stands out as contrary to many recent rumors about the device.
According to the report, the scan-through ability of the under-display fingerprint solution has "technical challenges." Additionally, the "overlayered panel module" has "weakened scan-through performance" as a result.
Other interpretations of the report claim that the analyst believes that there won't be a Touch ID sensor at all. However, the source does not say that, and only claims that the "virtual home button" in the screen won't support the technology.

But recent rumors from other sources including Apple's chip partner TSMC still suggest that the Touch ID sensor will be embedded in the screen.
The remainder of the report reiterated previous information previously promulgated by KGI Securities, like the OLED full-screen design with "notch," 3D sensing for facial recognition, fast charging through USB-C power delivery through the Lightning cable similar to that in the 12.9-inch iPad Pro, as well as a full availability of the "iPhone 8" later than that of the "iPhone 7s" and "iPhone 7s Plus."
Kuo has a decent track record predicting Apple's future moves and hardware, but missed the iMac updates launched at the company's Worldwide Developers Conference in June.

The list was provided to Street Insider by Ming-Chi Kuo, an analyst with KGI Securities. The vast majority of the claims about the "iPhone 8" have already been reported by AppleInsider, but the lack of an under-screen Touch ID sensor stands out as contrary to many recent rumors about the device.
According to the report, the scan-through ability of the under-display fingerprint solution has "technical challenges." Additionally, the "overlayered panel module" has "weakened scan-through performance" as a result.
Other interpretations of the report claim that the analyst believes that there won't be a Touch ID sensor at all. However, the source does not say that, and only claims that the "virtual home button" in the screen won't support the technology.

But recent rumors from other sources including Apple's chip partner TSMC still suggest that the Touch ID sensor will be embedded in the screen.
The remainder of the report reiterated previous information previously promulgated by KGI Securities, like the OLED full-screen design with "notch," 3D sensing for facial recognition, fast charging through USB-C power delivery through the Lightning cable similar to that in the 12.9-inch iPad Pro, as well as a full availability of the "iPhone 8" later than that of the "iPhone 7s" and "iPhone 7s Plus."
Kuo has a decent track record predicting Apple's future moves and hardware, but missed the iMac updates launched at the company's Worldwide Developers Conference in June.
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"A week before the release of the iPhone X, Apple finally managed to get Touch ID under the screen to work with 10% accuracy, which is why it is in the phone has a fully working implementation less than a week later, even though I originally said it wouldn't be included."
If there's no Touch ID, then whatever it has will be at least just as good if not better. Apple has shown this time and time again.
"If it's not a faster horse I'm not buying it."
Apple may have opted for OLED for one and only one reason: the thinness that would provide an extra layer for the embedded TouchID. Kuo will never understand that because of his duty of marketing OLED. No embedded TouchID, then no reason for OLED.
Jus'kiddin'
touch a finger for a fraction of a second to hold phone up to face, and do what? Press a button somewhere on the phone? What about the ease in which we've seen that fooled? How much more sophisticated could Apple’s be?
somethings not right about the reporting here. I don’t mean your reporting, Mike. I mean the whole thing.
I would think Apple pay with no touch ID would be a step backwards, facial recognition could work but that still seems like a step back to me.
so I’m not so sure he’s right on this. It’s still too far away. Maybe at the end of next month we’ll know better.
Btw, what happened with that patent from years ago about putting microscopic sensors between pixels over the entire screen surface? At the time the idea was for cameras. I wonder if they tried to take it in a different direction.
First, Apple would not productize a feature unless they already proven it can work. so it not a matter of whether it works or not. It may be an issue of product yields. This is why Apple may have chosen to load a phone up with any many new feature that is can so they can charge $1000 limiting the number of customer buying the product so they can work out the product yield issue.
The fact we keep hearing Apple is has technical issue get the technology to work make no sense. It would be like Apple introducing the first touch ID and it did not work any better than what had been seen in the past. or having the watch which the heart rate monitor was no better than then the stupid apps that measured your heart rate by using the camera and flash on the phone and putting you finger over both.
Not to say Apple has not had miss steps, but the entire IOS products today are centered around the touch ID and the fact it works so well. As with the watch Apple most likely have been testing for years to make sure if they doing away with the physical button for touch ID it work and work as they expect. We know from patent filing Apple has been working on this idea for years. Remember Apple is not like Samsung, they do not rush ideas to market just to show they could do it and it does not work.
The problem now, the rumor has been around for a long time, no one know for sure if through the screen touch ID is actually real or not, if it does not show up, people well say apple had issue, if it does show up then they all say they must have figured it out. there is a third case, apple never planned to have it in the first case. Non of us will know for sure until we see what they present even than no one know was the plan really was. The problem with Apple keeping secrete, unlike the competitor who tell great stories about what they plan to do, but never deliver or deliver something which is not what they said it would be.