Third report reaffirms iPhone X TrueDepth Face ID camera is bottleneck for Apple
The advanced new facial recognition system in Apple's iPhone X is the main holdup in production of the device -- a rumor now corroborated by three different publications ahead of the handset's November launch.
Citing people familiar with the iPhone X supply chain, The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday that the TrueDepth camera on the iPhone X, which is responsible for Face ID logins, is comprised of two key components dubbed "Romeo" and "Juliet."
According to the report, "Romeo" parts are more difficult to manufacture than "Juliet," and Apple has been hit with an imbalance in supply. As a result, mass production of the iPhone X remains hampered by the TrueDepth camera.
It's the third time in as many days that the Face ID sensor has taken the fall for the delayed -- and expected to be limited -- debut of the iPhone X. Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities was the first to report on Monday that the TrueDepth camera is making it difficult for Apple to achieve mass production.
Then on Tuesday, Nikkei chimed in and said suppliers are "still struggling" to improve output of the TrueDepth camera before preorders for the device begin. Apple will begin accepting orders for the iPhone X on Oct. 27 in more than 55 countries and territories, before launching a week later on Nov. 3.
Apple's Face ID technology introduced in the iPhone X is made up of four components including an infrared camera, a flood illuminator, a dot projector, and the front camera. The combination of sensors generates a 3D map of the face that it compares to the mathematical models of the stored face, utilizing the new A11 Bionic neural engine.
Apple says Face ID will be more secure and reliable than Touch ID, the fingerprint-based technology it is superseding.
Citing people familiar with the iPhone X supply chain, The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday that the TrueDepth camera on the iPhone X, which is responsible for Face ID logins, is comprised of two key components dubbed "Romeo" and "Juliet."
According to the report, "Romeo" parts are more difficult to manufacture than "Juliet," and Apple has been hit with an imbalance in supply. As a result, mass production of the iPhone X remains hampered by the TrueDepth camera.
It's the third time in as many days that the Face ID sensor has taken the fall for the delayed -- and expected to be limited -- debut of the iPhone X. Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities was the first to report on Monday that the TrueDepth camera is making it difficult for Apple to achieve mass production.
Then on Tuesday, Nikkei chimed in and said suppliers are "still struggling" to improve output of the TrueDepth camera before preorders for the device begin. Apple will begin accepting orders for the iPhone X on Oct. 27 in more than 55 countries and territories, before launching a week later on Nov. 3.
Apple's Face ID technology introduced in the iPhone X is made up of four components including an infrared camera, a flood illuminator, a dot projector, and the front camera. The combination of sensors generates a 3D map of the face that it compares to the mathematical models of the stored face, utilizing the new A11 Bionic neural engine.
Apple says Face ID will be more secure and reliable than Touch ID, the fingerprint-based technology it is superseding.
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If it is easy to make Apple isn't aiming high enough.
Remember 2013? The problematic fingerprint sensor?
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/08/12/rumor-fingerprint-sensor-production-could-limit-apple-to-4m-iphone-5s-units-this-quarter
https://9to5mac.com/2013/07/15/digitimes-claims-initial-iphone-5s-shipments-to-be-constrained-as-fingerprint-sensors-hit-low-yield-rates/
Same old same old.
Who pays for stories like this? I'm guessing the stock brokers, the companies that offer stock trading services.
Whether the stock price goes up or down does not matter to them.
They fund stories that encourages pessimists to sell, and stories that encourages optimists to buy.
They need both to make money.
A well crafted story will do both at once.
Stories don't have to make sense, they need to provide buyers and sellers an excuse to act on their gut feelings.
The only other time an iPhone wasn't released at the same time was the white iPhone 4 and there the issue was an inability to manufacture it to spec.
I believe it's garbage every time they say that. This year given the delayed release I give it more credence. Not enough to be sure about it but I think there's a good chance very small numbers (by iPhone standards) will be seen at launch and the months after
I don't even want face ID. I would have been more than happy with an OLED wrap around screen with touch ID on the 8
https://images.apple.com/business/docs/FaceID_Security_Guide.pdf
One thing of note if you have children you're buying an X for (or siblings that have a strong resemblance to you). Apple suggests that you rely on passcode instead and it's not for child privacy protection.
"The probability of a false match is different for twins and siblings that look like you as well as among children under the age of 13, because their distinct facial features may not have fully developed."
After all, component production capability would have been signed off BEFORE production agreements were made 9+ months ago. I say 9+ months because if a component supplier could not show production capability by that time Apple would have to shift to Plan B. Nine months would be cutting it very close when shifting to a Plan B on this magnitude.
Mmmm...
I wonder who will be the first to use the TrueDepth FaceID camera to take a Moon Shot?
Stop attacking Tim Cook at every occasion (for what it is worth). Tim Cook is the best man you can find and hire to run that company. He was the chief operating officer of Steve Jobs. Thanks to his engineering talent and immense knowledge on industrial processes the visions of Steve Jobs have become a reality. If Steve Jobs’ visions have become tangible products and made Apple what it is today this is also thanks to Tim Cook’s success as his chief operating officer. He is so loyal to Steve Jobs that he even suggested to donate his liver to his friend. He’s so loyal to Steve Jobs’ visions that he didn’t give up on iPad and committed to the improvement of that product to make it finally shine and rise again. Steve Jobs has passed away, you cannot bring him back. But you can support the members of his team in their endeavor to make Apple a company of their dreams common with Steve Jobs. This is Tim Cook’s commitment to that team mentality that keeps Apple today as a unified and a powerful entity. Without Tim Cook Apple might already be shredded to three or more companies by shareholders like you. As I understand you’re from a culture in which spiritual and moral values are highly appreciated, so I invite you to see the deeper realities behind the stock charts.
https://daringfireball.net/2017/09/iphone_x_supply_is_going_to_be_tight
This "list" of bullshit is only relevant to those intellectually dishonest people gleefully and obsessively scouring tech blogs and forums for negative news stories - like you, of course.
1. Audio issues affecting a very tiny number of iPhone 8s in very specific apps, which Apple has already acknowledged and will be patched. Every single iPhone release EVER has had these sorts of minor SW/HW issues at launch affecting a percentage of people. This doesn't even make the list compared to previous iPhone launches.
2. Most reviews say LTE works great, and if there are issues these will be addressed ASAP. Not a shred of evidence that this is a universal problem for most. Some issues are to be expected considering how relatively new eSIM is and the watch form factor, etc. Only someone like you would spin this into a "disaster".
3. "Supply problems" for a phone that doesn't launch for more than a month. Why don't we talk when the phone is actually launched and we have numbers?
4. Every version of iOS ever released has bugs on release, and iOS11 would have had bugs had they spent another 20 years working on it. What a bullshit "point".
5. Assume you meant "vulnerability". Moronic point, since what you're referring affects older versions of OSX, and there isn't a single case of it being exploited in the wild. High Sierra is more secure than any version before it, and this will no doubt be addressed. More stupidity and sensationalism from you.
6. Completely subjective. The tens and tens of millions of who buy phone might disagree and have zero issues with it. But I can see how desperate you are to pad your "list".
7. Atmos- Will be added in a software update, and realistically only a TINY percentage of ATV owners actually care about this. Youtube 4K- Not a shred of evidence that this isn't in Google's court. More FUD for your shitty list.
8. More garbage from you. Anyone and their dog could have predicted "shorter lines" for the 8, a phone similar in design to the ones of the last 4 years, considering a much more "exciting" iPhone launch is right around the corner. As for sales, you must have data that Apple doesn't even have, considering the phone literally just launched. You're literally oozing bullshit.
"Not saying this is true..." Right, but you went through the trouble of assembling this weak-ass list anyway, right? You've already used some of these to bash Cook in serious fashion, so don't pretend you don't believe your own bullshit. You claim not to be sure if "any" of that list is true, but still condemn Cook for the "bad look", regardless of truth or fact. You're such a clown, and this entire forum knows it. You make these "lists" on a daily basis and spam every thread with them.
NOTCH will be a status symbol!