Apple considering 'Full Active' LCDs from Japan Display for 2018 iPhones
Apple is reportedly considering "Full Active" LCDs by Japan Display for use in some of next year's iPhones, perhaps supporting views it will make a slow transition to OLED.
Xiaomi's Mi Mix 2, which uses a Full Active LCD.
The company has "expressed interest" in buying Full Active panels, according to sources for the Wall Street Journal. The technology is marketed as matching or beating aspects of OLED at a lower cost, which could be critical in keeping Apple profits high and/or end prices down.
Full Active panels are flexible, with bezels as small as 0.5 millimeters, about half that of OLED. Flexibility is typically considered one of the core advantages of OLED, along with extreme constrast and lower power consumption, since pixels can selectively illuminate.
Full Active LCDs are already being used in some smartphones, such as Xiaomi's Mi Mix 2, which sports an edge-to-edge screen like the OLED-based iPhone X and Samsung Galaxy Note 8.
The main obstacle to Apple's adoption of OLED is production capacity. The iPhone X is expected to depend entirely on Samsung-made OLED panels, since other suppliers can't yet manufacture on the scale Apple requires. More suppliers and capacity would push parts costs down, making it possible to use OLED on phones below the iPhone X's $999 pricetag.
Rumors have hinted that Apple could produce a 6-inch-plus LCD iPhone in 2018, which might ship alongside 5.85- and/or 6.46-inch OLED hardware. Cross-lineup use of OLED may have to wait until 2019, when LG should be ready to meet Apple demand.
Xiaomi's Mi Mix 2, which uses a Full Active LCD.
The company has "expressed interest" in buying Full Active panels, according to sources for the Wall Street Journal. The technology is marketed as matching or beating aspects of OLED at a lower cost, which could be critical in keeping Apple profits high and/or end prices down.
Full Active panels are flexible, with bezels as small as 0.5 millimeters, about half that of OLED. Flexibility is typically considered one of the core advantages of OLED, along with extreme constrast and lower power consumption, since pixels can selectively illuminate.
Full Active LCDs are already being used in some smartphones, such as Xiaomi's Mi Mix 2, which sports an edge-to-edge screen like the OLED-based iPhone X and Samsung Galaxy Note 8.
The main obstacle to Apple's adoption of OLED is production capacity. The iPhone X is expected to depend entirely on Samsung-made OLED panels, since other suppliers can't yet manufacture on the scale Apple requires. More suppliers and capacity would push parts costs down, making it possible to use OLED on phones below the iPhone X's $999 pricetag.
Rumors have hinted that Apple could produce a 6-inch-plus LCD iPhone in 2018, which might ship alongside 5.85- and/or 6.46-inch OLED hardware. Cross-lineup use of OLED may have to wait until 2019, when LG should be ready to meet Apple demand.
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since Apple has a bunch of their own OLED patents, I’m REALLY curious how these Samsung panels for Apple will work. It’s interesting that we haven’t already gotten samples that have been tested, on the sly, so that photos of the pixels could be taken. Are these Pentile displays, or something else?
also, the iPhone X doesn’t really have an edge to edge display.
Just perfect for Apple management! Just hope in 2018 they bring up the screen resolution in the smaller Apple phones and all the iPads to 1080p from 720i/p. Yes, I known Retina is still all the human eye can see but what if you are a superhuman with better vision? These are writing down the screen resolution to save in battery but their A12 in 2018 will only take 60% of the power that the A11 uses now! And how about adding double the RAM too to 4GB? Yes it will cost additional $30 more but you can charge additional $150 for that option and Apple can make even more $$$$! Sincec$1K is now the standard price for iPhones except for the budget iPhones (6S, 7 and SE) according to AT&T sales guy! LOL!
1080p would be overkill for 4.7", but 900p at least would be nice, have a similar PPI to the Plus. It would have to do the downscaling dance the Plus does, but the Plus already does with the same chip, and that would be another chip down.
If LG can't come up trumps with an OLED display it is good to have this as a Plan B waiting in the wings.
It’s edge to edge whether useless or not. I’m not one for curved edges. My friend has a Samsung, and he puts it down on the table, face down, which almost no one does, just so he can show the sides flickering and coloring if a notification comes in. Samsung had big plans for the curved edges, but it never amounted to much.
i’m not, by the way, offering criticism of the iPhone X edges, just saying that they’re not really edge to edge.
they’ve since lessened the curve of their later models from the rather extreme one of the first generation.
A smartphone screen has 4 sides and therefore has 4 bezel areas.
If a display removes 2 of 4 bezels, it still has the 2 top and bottom bezels. It is a bezeless screen only on 2 sides.
A screen with no bezels would include removing the top and bottom bezels.
* A common measurement is to calculate screen to body ratio. For instance the new Galaxy phones have a screen to body ratio in the 83% to 84% range. 84% does not = 100%.
No matter what anybody says, OLEDs can not support HDR. In fact, Sony told me that their top $9,500 OLED Tv couldn’t support HDR, and that I would need one of their top LCD models, or one of several of their front projectors with an HDR screen.
the same thing is true of phones.
Objectively, a screen without a bezel on the left and right edge is just that. It is talking about the bezel on two edges.
A screen without a bezel would refer to all 4 edges.