Apple's 2018 iPhone X will have new metal frame allowing for faster wireless data transfer...

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Supply chain reports suggest that Apple will expand it's casing business for the 2018 iPhone to Catcher and Casetek, with a new casing required to improve data transmission quality.



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KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, in a note obtained by AppleInsider, claims that the metal frame of Apple's fall 2018 iPhone will be composed of more than the four parts that the iPhone X has. The move, to improve transmission and reception, will necessitate additional suppliers to fill demand.

Kuo believes that Catcher will obtain stainless steel metal frame and casing assembly orders. However, should Casetek pass certification late in 2017 or early 2018, the company may win aluminum frame and casing assembly orders. As a side-effect, Kuo believes that Catcher may capture new design orders for any 2018 iMac Line, and benefit in assessment of a predicted 2018 augmented reality-based product.

Casetek supplies the mechanical keys for the iPhone now. The current iPhone X boasts a stainless steel metal frame.

At present Foxconn and Jabil supplies the internal supporting structure. It is not clear if the reported suppliers for 2018 will amplify offerings from the pair, or supplant it.
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  • Reply 1 of 28
    sergiozsergioz Posts: 246member
    New iPhone huh? 
    Interesting...
    How many antennas will it support? 
  • Reply 2 of 28
    robjnrobjn Posts: 224member
    In order to not be misled again (remember the “function area”) it is important to try to deduce what data is factual and what Kuo has added based on his own assumptions.

    In this case it is probably factual that the frame will be made of more pieces - because that is unexpected and something a supplier would likely know.

    What Kuo says about the purpose of this new design being to improve radio signal reception is probably his own invention. He knows antenna lines are there for the cell antenna and so his assumption is that more parts are for a similar reason. Suppliers of a metal frame don’t know anything about the purpose or design intent in relation to radios. They simply don’t need to know that. Kuo invented it or chose to repeat someone else’s assumed explanation.

    There might be several other explanations for a frame design that uses more parts. So we should keep an open mind and not charge in the direction Kuo points.

    The headline for for this article should at least end with a question mark.
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  • Reply 3 of 28
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,709member
    Ha. Silly Kuo, Apple waits to the last minute to change designs. I mean that's what the rumors led us to believe this year. And rumors aren't wrong. 

    /s 
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  • Reply 4 of 28
    Liquidmetal?
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  • Reply 5 of 28
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 31,803member
    What I don’t understand is why Apple can’t use a metal case, as they have been, with a cutout in the back for the oval charge coil. They could fill the oval with glass, or ceramic. It would be much less breakable.
    edited November 2017 edredbaconstangwatto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 28
    robjnrobjn Posts: 224member
    Apple Watch Series 3 LTE proves that Apple have the technology to make antenna lines disappear entirely. So it would not be unreasonable to expect an iPhone with a single piece frame (externally).

    Kuo typically gets his information a bit confused. The new glass backed iPhone X has a steel plate inside that is spot welded to the frame to form the casing - could the suppliers be referring to internal structural steel parts?


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  • Reply 7 of 28
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 1,767member
    It not clear if this is for the iPhone 9 (last of the LCD phones?) or iPhone XI.
  • Reply 8 of 28
    robjnrobjn Posts: 224member
    melgross said:
    What I don’t understand is why Apple can’t use a metal case, as they have been, with a cutout in the back for the oval charge coil. They could fill the oval with glass, or ceramic. It would be much less breakable.
    They could!

    With the current design much the glass is supported by a steel sheet. This sheet has a cutout to create a ‘wireless charging’ window.

    Apparently, Apple prefers the look of an ‘all glass’ back rather than a metal case with a glass window. Such a window would interfere with the iconic Apple Logo styling.
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  • Reply 9 of 28
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 2,448member
    It starts.

    If this year's model is "eye fone ecks" next year's is "eye fone zee"?

    repressthiswatto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 28
    sergioz said:
    New iPhone huh? 
    Interesting...
    How many antennas will it support? 
    One! FM !
    repressthisbaconstangwatto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 28
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 12,860member
    For all be knows the extra parts could for a folder.  
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 12 of 28

    ...it's casing business....

    its: a possessive pronoun
    it's: a contraction for "it is"

    Seen it wrong several times here lately.
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  • Reply 13 of 28
    Use body of a caller as antena. See what happens.
  • Reply 14 of 28
    tmaytmay Posts: 3,850member
    robjn said:
    In order to not be misled again (remember the “function area”) it is important to try to deduce what data is factual and what Kuo has added based on his own assumptions.

    In this case it is probably factual that the frame will be made of more pieces - because that is unexpected and something a supplier would likely know.

    What Kuo says about the purpose of this new design being to improve radio signal reception is probably his own invention. He knows antenna lines are there for the cell antenna and so his assumption is that more parts are for a similar reason. Suppliers of a metal frame don’t know anything about the purpose or design intent in relation to radios. They simply don’t need to know that. Kuo invented it or chose to repeat someone else’s assumed explanation.

    There might be several other explanations for a frame design that uses more parts. So we should keep an open mind and not charge in the direction Kuo points.

    The headline for for this article should at least end with a question mark.
    Ten points to Gryffindor for the proper use of "design intent"!

    I as well take this with a grain of salt for improved radio signal. Maybe it would improve off axis connection for wifi or BT, but otherwise, not seeing it as necessary for the glass backed models. (Not an RF guy, but I've been around them for a couple of decades).
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 28
    eightzero said:
    It starts.

    If this year's model is "eye fone ecks" next year's is "eye fone zee"?

    Eye Fone Why
    baconstangwatto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 28
    eightzero said:
    It starts.

    If this year's model is "eye fone ecks" next year's is "eye fone zee"?

    Eye Fone Why
    iPhone INXS for you 80’s music fans. 
  • Reply 17 of 28
    robjnrobjn Posts: 224member
    k2kw said:
    It not clear if this is for the iPhone 9 (last of the LCD phones?) or iPhone XI.
    Kuo is typically unclear. He refers to stainless steel components but also talks about the possibility of one of the suppliers making aluminium parts. This might suggest that next years line-up (like this years) will include both stainless steel phones and aluminium ones.
  • Reply 18 of 28
    robjnrobjn Posts: 224member

    Liquidmetal?
    Kuo appears to be talking to suppliers that are geared up to machine steel and aluminum parts. This suggests phones with steel and aluminum frames will be in the lineup next year.

    Bulk Metallic Glass alloys (aka LiquidMetal/ other brand names) are shaped with an injection molding process. This process is probably outside of the expertise of typical machine shops.
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  • Reply 19 of 28
    tipootipoo Posts: 1,057member
    Hoping for quad antenna LTE, makes a big difference in recovering from a dropped connection. 
  • Reply 20 of 28
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,709member
    melgross said:
    What I don’t understand is why Apple can’t use a metal case, as they have been, with a cutout in the back for the oval charge coil. They could fill the oval with glass, or ceramic. It would be much less breakable.
    A cutout? How would Apple attach the glass/ceramic to the metal case and have if flush with no seams? 
    watto_cobra
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