Tesla unveils new Semi with a 500 mile range, Roadster that can hit 250 miles per hour

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  • Reply 41 of 140
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,260member

    lukei said:
    flydog said:
    How is this article relevant to Apple products?
    Because Elon Musk will Be Apple CEO after they buy his businesses?
    Nah ... Tim will be CEO and Elon head of R&D in the vehicle and space divisions ;)
  • Reply 42 of 140
    mobirdmobird Posts: 144member
    I will always attempt to support with future purchases the automobiles that I grew up tinkering with and driving. I'll leave it to others to adopt the EV's, they just are not my cup of tea.
    toddzrx
  • Reply 43 of 140
    Obvious timed distraction from their huge manufacturing problems with the Model 3.
    tmay
  • Reply 44 of 140
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,152member
    d_2 said:
    I truly weep for the generations to come that will have no idea what driving an automobile with a real, gasoline engine feels like... and somehow this is progress :/
    Uh, this IS progress, on multiple levels, regardless of your twisted view of gas cars somehow being more advanced. Its like weeping for the generations that have no idea of what ejecting a VHS tape feels like, or an optical drive, or using a flip phone, etc.
    edited November 2017 williamlondonmuthuk_vanalingampscooter63lostkiwiavon b7
  • Reply 45 of 140
    @zero to 60 miles per hour in five seconds when empty, and in 20 seconds when loaded with 80,000 pounds of goods. Now that's impressive in anyone's book. There's a semi that can stay in the left lane and not have cars flashing lights and darting around on the right side.
  • Reply 46 of 140
    MacPro said:

    lukei said:
    flydog said:
    How is this article relevant to Apple products?
    Because Elon Musk will Be Apple CEO after they buy his businesses?
    Nah ... Tim will be CEO and Elon head of R&D in the vehicle and space divisions ;)
    LOL. Pretty sure Musk would never accept having to report to another person.
  • Reply 47 of 140
    lukei said:
    flydog said:
    How is this article relevant to Apple products?
    Because Elon Musk will Be Apple CEO after they buy his businesses?

    Ew.  Don't even joke about something like that.
  • Reply 48 of 140
    If you look at cars today, and think, what would Apple do if they wanted to move it forward, the way they did for the smartphones back in 2007, I can't think they could do anything better than what Tesla does. It pushes autonomy as far as is practical, their aesthetic design is top notch, and they take a step forward while also trying to stay practical. And for some industries, you cannot do this at profit, at least at first. At least they are trying, and building things, even if profits are to follow. It's something we can see, and soon, be able to afford also, with Tesla 3. So yes, I think that is why we see this on an Apple forum, and also because Apple tried to enter this field. So if Apple would buy Tesla, I can see Musk as the CEO visionary, and Cook as the COO he's always been.
    edited November 2017 propod
  • Reply 49 of 140
    Assuming I did the math right, 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds translates to 14.11 m/s^2 or 1.44 Gs.  Yikes.
    YoSamCapsFan
  • Reply 50 of 140
    I don’t need to go 250 mph, but the 650 mile range is a dealmaker.  I often drive 550 miles one-way to visit relatives, and my vehicle must be able to do that without substantial recharge delays.  Either great range or turbo-recharging or both is essential for me.  Surely Im not alone. Good work Tesla!
    cgWerks
  • Reply 51 of 140
    SoliSoli Posts: 8,863member
    mattinoz said:
    Soli said:
    JFC_PA said:
    Interesting tech though I’m more excited about his roofing tiles. 

    T. Boone Pickens had targeted semi’s for natural gas as part of his emission reduction plans when he was leaning big into wind farms but electric coupled to renewable generation for semi’s would be even better. 
    If EV semis get common enough and solar panels get cheap enough, we could see solar panels on the top of trailers. I think that's more than most homes have. I doubt that by today's standards that would result in a net gain whilst driving at 55mph*, but it would surely allow you to drive longer and even charge whilst parked if you end up sleeping during the day.


    * Trucking companies typically make the max by adding governors, which could be easily replicated with SW if that's the ideal speed, which it might not be since the remarkably low drag coefficient could allow that to be raised a bit.
    Companies are now selling large sheet solar panels designed to replace roofs on industrail buildings entirely. Same could be used to replace flat sheet metal roof of a trailer to generate extra free distance. Although That means you'd need a battery pack in the trailer to store power when not connected to the prime.
    Not necessarily. Right now, all semi-tractors require three cables to be connected every time to attach a trailer. These are the primary and backup compressed air brake hose assembly and a power cable for the trailer's lights. It wouldn't be difficult to add a 4th cable that can feed power back into the Tesla's power banks.

    That said, I wouldn't discount the idea altogether since trailers sitting in the open could power up. Of course, the battery packs couldn't possible sit as low to the ground as with the tractor, but neither is the cargo they hold. This probably would require so sort of ladder on the front of the trailer so that it can swept of dirt because they do get dirty, but then you have another problem of whether a driver will want sweep the top of every trailer and if it's safe to do 13 feet up with no side rails, which may mean a company doesn't want a driver to risk it.


    PS: I don't think it was mentioned, but I assume that Tesla Semi has an onboard air compressor for the trailer's air brakes. The only other option is to only use Tesla trailers, which I'm not even sure would be legal.


    edited November 2017 lostkiwi
  • Reply 52 of 140
    I’m simply astonished by the Tesla hate in here.  

    Why do so many people feel they can only cheer for only one company?

    The simplicity of thinking strongly reminds me of everyone who hated on Tim Cook (and said Apple was doomed) after Steve passed away.
    SoliSendMcjakmuthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 53 of 140
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 2,355member
    The truck idea is long overdue, but is clearly only one part of a bigger idea. I can see a case for these being assembled into fleets with their own specially designed stations along interstates, and then...wait for it...are made driverless and completely autonomous. I can also see them being made with containerized cargo systems, so it gets to the station, and the "pods" are moved to convention smaller road delivery vehicles for local traffic.

    The savings in personnel/driver costs are huge. The AFL-CIO and Teamsters are gonna have a fit.

    The roadster is a consumer product; the truck is an industrial product with way more potential. 
    edited November 2017 Soli
  • Reply 54 of 140
    SoliSoli Posts: 8,863member

    bikertwin said:
    Soli said:
    timmillea said:
    The future profit is in eliminating the need to travel or transport. Testorone-driven marketing of this kind looks very last century in retrospect.
    Let us know what you can produce a teleporter that will be in every location so that nothing ever needs to be transported. Until then, we're still going to have about 80% of all cargo moved by trucks,
    While we’ll always need to move things like food to distant markets, the future is density instead of sprawl in our cities.

    So, per capita, we’ll need to move stuff around less, as people are much closer together. With self-driving cars, there’s no need for performance, as you don’t want your car slinging you around the cabin while you’re doing work or socializing. And cities are pushing for fewer (or no) cars in their densest centers; instead, walking, biking, & transit are the future there.

    So we’re in a transition period, where people still buy & own cars individually, so you need performance to market them. But that will change.
    You just described why you need semi tractors and other larger cargo vehicles moving forward, not just an individual farmer with his 1920's Ford truck.
  • Reply 55 of 140
    tmaytmay Posts: 3,762member
    I don’t need to go 250 mph, but the 650 mile range is a dealmaker.  I often drive 550 miles one-way to visit relatives, and my vehicle must be able to do that without substantial recharge delays.  Either great range or turbo-recharging or both is essential for me.  Surely Im not alone. Good work Tesla!
    A 200 KWhr battery is an easy, and brute force, solution to the problem of range with a $200K car, but it's not a path to an EV future for a car for the masses. It's just a distraction from the currently stalled Model 3 production, as is the truck. It's certainly not an environmentally friendly solution to have a 200 KWhr battery in a passenger car.

    propod
  • Reply 56 of 140
    lmaclmac Posts: 188member
    Because Elon Musk is the new Steve Jobs
    flydog said:
    How is this article relevant to Apple products?
  • Reply 57 of 140
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 4,886member
    lmac said:
    Because Elon Musk is the new Steve Jobs
    flydog said:
    How is this article relevant to Apple products?
    Bahahahaha....good one! Seriously! That was a good one!
    edited November 2017 tmaysuddenly newton
  • Reply 58 of 140
    SendMcjakSendMcjak Posts: 66unconfirmed, member
    kkqd1337 said:
    I have no faith in whatever Elon Musk says. Believe it when I see it. Same goes for the Tesla 3
    ... says rando dude on the internet about the self-made billionaire who has created three multi-billion dollar companies.
    edited November 2017 Soliwilliamlondonboxcatcherraoulduke42lostkiwi
  • Reply 59 of 140
    Given that their original Roadster was based on a Lotus platform, and that their new Roadster bears more than a passing resemblance to the current Lotus Evora, is this another case of Tesla farming out the largest parts of manufacturing to Lotus?
  • Reply 60 of 140
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,260member
    I don’t need to go 250 mph, but the 650 mile range is a dealmaker.  I often drive 550 miles one-way to visit relatives, and my vehicle must be able to do that without substantial recharge delays.  Either great range or turbo-recharging or both is essential for me.  Surely Im not alone. Good work Tesla!
    Maybe one day when all vehicles are controlled by some AI once they enter a highway then maybe that sort of speed would be fine.  Mind you, you'd have to be careful not to let the dog stick its head out of the window!  ;)
    teaearlegreyhot
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