'Hey Siri' may come to iMac Pro with rumored inclusion of A10 Fusion co-processor

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  • Reply 81 of 92
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,922administrator
    Peperino said:
    iMac Pro $5000.00

    No Touchscreen
    Almost same outside 10 years old design. (look at Surface studio)
    Can you upgrade any of the components (internal HD, etc)?
    Maybe they ship the keyboard with a strip in order to justify the expensive price.

    $5000.00 really?

    No thanks
    Over the summer, for the same parts (not consumer-grade, masquerading as xeon, etc), the price was equivalent for the performance to other workstations.

    We'll see how it looks after the machine releases.
    SpamSandwichwatto_cobra
  • Reply 82 of 92
    Peperino said:
    iMac Pro $5000.00

    No Touchscreen
    Almost same outside 10 years old design. (look at Surface studio)
    Can you upgrade any of the components (internal HD, etc)?
    Maybe they ship the keyboard with a strip in order to justify the expensive price.

    $5000.00 really?

    No thanks
    Over the summer, for the same parts (not consumer-grade, masquerading as xeon, etc), the price was equivalent for the performance to other workstations.

    We'll see how it looks after the machine releases.
    I’m extremely interested to see what is Apple’s response with the Mac Pro. I expect something modular and highly customizable.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 83 of 92
    SoliSoli Posts: 10,038member
    Peperino said:
    iMac Pro $5000.00

    No Touchscreen
    Almost same outside 10 years old design. (look at Surface studio)
    Can you upgrade any of the components (internal HD, etc)?
    Maybe they ship the keyboard with a strip in order to justify the expensive price.

    $5000.00 really?

    No thanks
    So it doesn't what the performance is or how competitive it is on price, if the exterior of its casing doesn't look different it's crap? Why put some geek status symbol over utility?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 84 of 92
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    jcs2305 said:
    appex said:
    All-in-one (AIO) computers like iMac are a huge aggression to planet Earth. Computers may last for seven years or less, whereas displays may last for more than 20 years.
    go troll this bullshit somewhere else. Macs are extremely long-lived and highly recyclable, making them a more ecological choice than any crappy plastic Dell desktop. 

    nobody uses a display for TWENTY YEARS. there is something wrong with your brain. 
    Damn!  I better get rid of mine!   Such a shame.   It's works great and I love the picture quality on it.  None of that posterized looking stuff like you get on the flat screens. 
    So you are actually using a 20 year old monitor? Is that what I am understanding?  By your comment it seems like you are talking about a TV, and not a computer monitor?
    No, in its day (actually more than 20 years ago) it was a very high end monitor.   It works as well today as the day I bought it.  And, I have no reason to discard it just get something newer -- particularly since I have yet to see a flat screen with the same 'depth' when showing photos (I've never liked the posterized effect of flat screens -- in the same way that I still prefer vinyl to digital music).  

    But admittedly, it doesn't get used much these days.  It's attached to the machine I use as a server.  I use laptops for day-to-day type stuff.
  • Reply 85 of 92
    How many people here are remotely interested in Siri on the desktop?
    See, I like the idea of “Siri in the home” and the HomePod is a step toward that, but it means one of two things. Either I have to spend tens of thousands of dollars to replace all my appliances with “smart” versions of them from various companies who wouldn’t know smart if it entered their industry put them out of business and then hope they have integration with Wi-Fi (why should I need that in a washing machine) and also hope they can connect to Siri or something… or I have to wait until Siri gets smart enough to parse more complicated queries. I should just be able to say to myself (meaning the room, meaning Siri’s already listening–and also that she’s stored locally on one of my machines so that the processing doesn’t have to cross the Internet barrier), “Remind me to switch out the laundry in 45 minutes,” and the speakers THROUGHOUT MY HOUSE should be able to *ping* Your laundry’s done after that timeframe. No matter where I am in the house, it just comes through one of the speakers. In a “smart home” speakers could also be used as the doorbell, and then any device with a screen as a peephole to the door.

    As for Siri on the desktop for non-domestic uses, I think there’s potential there. But again, she’ll have to get smarter. “Did any of the files I was working on yesterday say ‘usury’?” (time-based and text search-based query) “Show my comedies in descending order of length.” (go to iTunes, look at genre metadata, file sorting by time) OH, and the big one would be to get Siri to do more advanced commands. “Copy all files that say ‘Federal Reserve’ into a new folder on my Desktop called ‘Federal Reserve’.” I think people would love Siri on the desktop if–and only if–it could do things we wouldn’t even dream of doing right now. If it’s just “another way to do what you already do”, that’s less enticing.
    I’m extremely interested to see what is Apple’s response with the Mac Pro. I expect something modular and highly customizable.
    I expect the same, but through stackable “boxes” with proprietary connectors that only accept very specific hardware. “Interested, but not hopeful”; that’s my motto.
    edited November 2017
  • Reply 86 of 92
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,922administrator
    I’m extremely interested to see what is Apple’s response with the Mac Pro. I expect something modular and highly customizable.
    I expect the same, but through stackable “boxes” with proprietary connectors that only accept very specific hardware. “Interested, but not hopeful”; that’s my motto.
    Yeah. I'm very concerned what "modular" means, according to Apple in regards to the Mac Pro.
    watto_cobratallest skil
  • Reply 87 of 92
    appex said:
    All-in-one (AIO) computers like iMac are a huge aggression to planet Earth. Computers may last for seven years or less, whereas displays may last for more than 20 years.
    go troll this bullshit somewhere else. Macs are extremely long-lived and highly recyclable, making them a more ecological choice than any crappy plastic Dell desktop. 

    nobody uses a display for TWENTY YEARS. there is something wrong with your brain. 
    Damn!  I better get rid of mine!   Such a shame.   It's works great and I love the picture quality on it.  None of that posterized looking stuff like you get on the flat screens. 
    you’re not using a 20 year old monitor. next. 
    You're right.  It's more like 22-23 years old.
    ....  It's connected to the machine I use as a server.   For everyday stuff I use a laptop & iPhone.
    So not your actual machine. A 22 year old CRT just won’t look very good, especially for work where pixels matter. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 88 of 92
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 2,477member
    I’m extremely interested to see what is Apple’s response with the Mac Pro. I expect something modular and highly customizable.
    I expect the same, but through stackable “boxes” with proprietary connectors that only accept very specific hardware. “Interested, but not hopeful”; that’s my motto.
    Yeah. I'm very concerned what "modular" means, according to Apple in regards to the Mac Pro.
    I keep thinking the NextNewMacPro will be an openCompute blade. Then that would suggest the iMacPro might be a test for a lights out management system. Grow BridgeOS to handle driver support for pluggable GPU and other modules. Just not sure how useful siri would be though with 100's of blades in the same data centre aisle.
  • Reply 89 of 92
    appex said:
    All-in-one (AIO) computers like iMac are a huge aggression to planet Earth. Computers may last for seven years or less, whereas displays may last for more than 20 years.
    go troll this bullshit somewhere else. Macs are extremely long-lived and highly recyclable, making them a more ecological choice than any crappy plastic Dell desktop. 

    nobody uses a display for TWENTY YEARS. there is something wrong with your brain. 
    Damn!  I better get rid of mine!   Such a shame.   It's works great and I love the picture quality on it.  None of that posterized looking stuff like you get on the flat screens. 
    you’re not using a 20 year old monitor. next. 
    You're right.  It's more like 22-23 years old.
    ....  It's connected to the machine I use as a server.   For everyday stuff I use a laptop & iPhone.
    So not your actual machine. A 22 year old CRT just won’t look very good, especially for work where pixels matter. 
    Not my "actual" machine?   I have multiple machines.   They are all real.
    And, the picture quality is excellent -- better than most flat screens I have seen.  And the resolution is excellent -- better than most laptop screens (It was, after all, a high end monitor)

    Perhaps the analogy is CDs:  They were originally billed as superior to vinyl and had all the statistics and data points to prove it.   But, in the end, people realized that vinyl offered advantages that were not reflected in the stats and data points -- but could be discerned by the human ear.
  • Reply 90 of 92
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    jcs2305 said:
    appex said:
    All-in-one (AIO) computers like iMac are a huge aggression to planet Earth. Computers may last for seven years or less, whereas displays may last for more than 20 years.
    go troll this bullshit somewhere else. Macs are extremely long-lived and highly recyclable, making them a more ecological choice than any crappy plastic Dell desktop. 

    nobody uses a display for TWENTY YEARS. there is something wrong with your brain. 
    Damn!  I better get rid of mine!   Such a shame.   It's works great and I love the picture quality on it.  None of that posterized looking stuff like you get on the flat screens. 
    So you are actually using a 20 year old monitor? Is that what I am understanding?  By your comment it seems like you are talking about a TV, and not a computer monitor?
    No, in its day (actually more than 20 years ago) it was a very high end monitor.   It works as well today as the day I bought it.  And, I have no reason to discard it just get something newer -- particularly since I have yet to see a flat screen with the same 'depth' when showing photos (I've never liked the posterized effect of flat screens -- in the same way that I still prefer vinyl to digital music).  

    But admittedly, it doesn't get used much these days.  It's attached to the machine I use as a server.  I use laptops for day-to-day type stuff.
    While it may work well, it's unlikely that it works as well as teh day you bought it (unless it's been very lightly used for a decade).
    CRT's gun get out of what with time and things get progressively fuzzier. I bought a $2000 dollar monior equivalent to $3200 now) in 1995 so I'm familiar with those. The top res was 1600 x 1200, very impressive for 1995. The refresh rate at 800x600 was astronomical compared to all but the most recent LCDs.
  • Reply 91 of 92
    foggyhill said:
    jcs2305 said:
    appex said:
    All-in-one (AIO) computers like iMac are a huge aggression to planet Earth. Computers may last for seven years or less, whereas displays may last for more than 20 years.
    go troll this bullshit somewhere else. Macs are extremely long-lived and highly recyclable, making them a more ecological choice than any crappy plastic Dell desktop. 

    nobody uses a display for TWENTY YEARS. there is something wrong with your brain. 
    Damn!  I better get rid of mine!   Such a shame.   It's works great and I love the picture quality on it.  None of that posterized looking stuff like you get on the flat screens. 
    So you are actually using a 20 year old monitor? Is that what I am understanding?  By your comment it seems like you are talking about a TV, and not a computer monitor?
    No, in its day (actually more than 20 years ago) it was a very high end monitor.   It works as well today as the day I bought it.  And, I have no reason to discard it just get something newer -- particularly since I have yet to see a flat screen with the same 'depth' when showing photos (I've never liked the posterized effect of flat screens -- in the same way that I still prefer vinyl to digital music).  

    But admittedly, it doesn't get used much these days.  It's attached to the machine I use as a server.  I use laptops for day-to-day type stuff.
    While it may work well, it's unlikely that it works as well as teh day you bought it (unless it's been very lightly used for a decade).
    CRT's gun get out of what with time and things get progressively fuzzier. I bought a $2000 dollar monior equivalent to $3200 now) in 1995 so I'm familiar with those. The top res was 1600 x 1200, very impressive for 1995. The refresh rate at 800x600 was astronomical compared to all but the most recent LCDs.
    Perhaps it did get fuzzier.  But, I haven't noticed.   And I still like the way it displays pictures with deep rich natural looking color.  Certainly I have no reason to swap it for a flat panel of any sort -- it does what I need it to do and it does it well...

    But who knows?  Someday I might sell it as an antique curiosity.  I would bet that there are few kids in school today who have ever even seen one.
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