If it’s comfy, then it would be worth it, nothing worse than sitting at a desk in an uncomfortable chair all day.
Quiet is a great feature, but I'm not sure that blending in visually is worthwhile if it comes at the expense of comfort or durability. How long before someone spots a different chair at Apple and we get a scandal about it, like how the design of Apple Park is suppose to be poor for getting work done.
While there's a case to be made that upholstery will likely wear out faster and look worse than the Aeron chairs, they may also be a point for making the office quieter if cushioning absorb sound.
I worked for Agilent in 2000 and they required employees to be fitted for a roughly $1,000 chair. One of the brands was Herman Miller. I thought it was over the top but it was an ergonomics requirement.
couldn't you instead ask the Apple Board to pay us Brits a great deal more tax?
You’re free to give your entire income in taxes if it bothers you so much. You’ve no right to say what someone else pays in tax. You lost your colonies over that; I would think you’d learn a lesson by now.
Testy, testy, TS. The phrase "You've no right . . ." is the last resort for someone with no better idea. A deep breath might be worthwhile - he's clearly a Brit and it was a sarcasm & a joke ;-)
Soli said: While there's a case to be made that upholstery will likely wear out faster and look worse than the Aeron chairs, they may also be a point for making the office quieter if cushioning absorb sound.
Aeron chairs are not noisy at all, although the cushioning of these Pacific chairs may help to absorb fart noises but there are lots of things in a typical office environment that are noisy. Just typing on a keyboard is noisier than a chair. People talking on the phone, having an impromptu meeting near your desk, people eating a snack, slurping a hot cup of tea, incoming notifications on computers, etc. I know I'm easily annoyed but with an open floor plan, other people are going to be making a lot more noise than any reasonably high quality chair.
Soli said: While there's a case to be made that upholstery will likely wear out faster and look worse than the Aeron chairs, they may also be a point for making the office quieter if cushioning absorb sound.
Aeron chairs are not noisy at all, although the cushioning of these Pacific chairs may help to absorb fart noises but there are lots of things in a typical office environment that are noisy. Just typing on a keyboard is noisier than a chair. People talking on the phone, having an impromptu meeting near your desk, people eating a snack, slurping a hot cup of tea, incoming notifications on computers, etc. I know I'm easily annoyed but with an open floor plan, other people are going to be making a lot more noise than any reasonably high quality chair.
It is somewhat amusing how some people moan and whine about the cost of an iPhone X being $1000, but there are companies that can get away with selling a $1200 office chair and yet I'll bet no one is pointing figures at that chair company for ripping off customers (I personally don't they they are ripping off customers). Buyers have a choice and they're not being forced to buy from that company. As long as those chairs are comfortable, I certainly can't fault Apple for buying them when employees have to sit in them for many hours a day. Employees should be comfortable and not end up with back problems or neck cramps. I've certainly had less expensive office chairs at about $300 and they were comfortable enough for me to sit in for hours on end without harming my body but that's not everyone. Oh, and I prefer my armrests to have thick memory foam which I find quite comfortable to rest my arms on.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is of Apple ordering these office chairs if it's about the cost alone. It's not as though they're $1200 wooden chairs. I'm sure there must be plenty of other corporations who have ordered similarly-priced office chairs and they likely have less money to spend than Apple. I suppose articles like this might appear in office supply trade magazines but why should the average citizen care what type of office furniture Apple is using or how much they spent on it. I just hope Apple's employees find them comfortable and it might help their overall production.
It is somewhat amusing how some people moan and whine about the cost of an iPhone X being $1000, but there are companies that can get away with selling a $1200 office chair and yet I'll bet no one is pointing figures at that chair company for ripping off customers (I personally don't they they are ripping off customers). Buyers have a choice and they're not being forced to buy from that company. As long as those chairs are comfortable, I certainly can't fault Apple for buying them when employees have to sit in them for many hours a day. Employees should be comfortable and not end up with back problems or neck cramps. I've certainly had less expensive office chairs at about $300 and they were comfortable enough for me to sit in for hours on end without harming my body but that's not everyone. Oh, and I prefer my armrests to have thick memory foam which I find quite comfortable to rest my arms on.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is of Apple ordering these office chairs if it's about the cost alone. It's not as though they're $1200 wooden chairs. I'm sure there must be plenty of other corporations who have ordered similarly-priced office chairs and they likely have less money to spend than Apple. I suppose articles like this might appear in office supply trade magazines but why should the average citizen care what type of office furniture Apple is using or how much they spent on it. I just hope Apple's employees find them comfortable and it might help their overall production.
I can see a difference. People feel locked into a device because they're invested in the OS, or even adapters or accessories, as may be the case with Lightning. However, your ass is a universal interface that can go in the best or worst chair that you so desire, can afford, or is afforded to you. The ultimate in butt-plug-and-play, if you will. 😝
The designers of the chair, Barber and Ed Osgerby, met with Ive several years ago over drinks, Fast Companysaid on Tuesday. The pair explained to him that the Pacific was designed to be "quiet," with curves that let it blend into any environment.
Ive reportedly raised an eyebrow, telling the Osgerbys "That's interesting."
Testy, testy, TS. The phrase "You've no right . . ." is the last resort for someone with no better idea.
The thread would be locked if I posted my objectively better idea. Try the FUCK again, but this time how about you reply to what I posted? By what right do YOU get to say what tax ANOTHER person pays?
I do software-design work for a client that manufactures high-end furniture like this. I can tell you for sure, from years of experience in that industry that whatever Jony paid for these chairs, it would have been nowhere near the $1,200 retail price, especially at the quality Apple ordered.
Might have been nice if employees got to select from a number of approved choices what they would spend their time sitting on rather than a one-size-fits-all, take it or leave it situation. Hope Jony isn’t becoming the big talking head on the screen in the famous “1984” commercial, overseeing his minions sitting in uniform rows on uniform chairs.
Testy, testy, TS. The phrase "You've no right . . ." is the last resort for someone with no better idea.
The thread would be locked if I posted my objectively better idea. Try the FUCK again, but this time how about you reply to what I posted? By what right do YOU get to say what tax ANOTHER person pays?
sarcasm & a joke
Doubtful.
Calm down, man, there's no need to go ballistic over someone else's opinions on taxation.
If it’s comfy, then it would be worth it, nothing worse than sitting at a desk in an uncomfortable chair all day.
Quiet is a great feature, but I'm not sure that blending in visually is worthwhile if it comes at the expense of comfort or durability. How long before someone spots a different chair at Apple and we get a scandal about it, like how the design of Apple Park is suppose to be poor for getting work done.
While there's a case to be made that upholstery will likely wear out faster and look worse than the Aeron chairs, they may also be a point for making the office quieter if cushioning absorb sound.
Well, there are lots of different quality of upholstery, highest quality ones are nearly as hard wearing as industrial carpeting (you can check it out) and those things are not going to wear out from you just sitting in it.
The chairs that wear out are not made with top end material, there is no reason a chair made with the toughest synthetic threads should ever wear out inside 25 years.
I've got an upholstered chair that originally sold discounted for around $800 (but its not its usual price) (but, I've seen it at $1300 too ), but bought in a bankruptcy lot for $100 and people were fighting over it at that price (spotted it early and recognized its quality so got dibs on it).
It had 10 years of office space use when I bought it and now has had 15 more and its still in tip top shape.
The main problem with high end upholstery is not durability, but keeping it clean, especially in my home office settings were I'm a bit more messy than at work :-).
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While there's a case to be made that upholstery will likely wear out faster and look worse than the Aeron chairs, they may also be a point for making the office quieter if cushioning absorb sound.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is of Apple ordering these office chairs if it's about the cost alone. It's not as though they're $1200 wooden chairs. I'm sure there must be plenty of other corporations who have ordered similarly-priced office chairs and they likely have less money to spend than Apple. I suppose articles like this might appear in office supply trade magazines but why should the average citizen care what type of office furniture Apple is using or how much they spent on it. I just hope Apple's employees find them comfortable and it might help their overall production.
Correction. BarberOsgerby is
Ed Barber and Jay Osgerby.
Not “the Osgerbys”
Details here: https://www.vitra.com/en-au/living/product/details/pacific-chair
Doubtful.
The chairs that wear out are not made with top end material, there is no reason a chair made with the toughest synthetic threads should ever wear out inside 25 years.
I've got an upholstered chair that originally sold discounted for around $800 (but its not its usual price) (but, I've seen it at $1300 too ), but bought in a bankruptcy lot for $100 and people were fighting over it at that price (spotted it early and recognized its quality so got dibs on it).
It had 10 years of office space use when I bought it and now has had 15 more and its still in tip top shape.
The main problem with high end upholstery is not durability, but keeping it clean, especially in my home office settings were I'm a bit more messy than at work :-).