Mac mini 2018 Review: Apple's mightiest mini yet

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  • Reply 141 of 151
    nhtnht Posts: 4,303member
    sirozha said:
    I believe that the quad-core i3 CPU in this Mac Mini has only four threads instead of eight threads; that is there’s only one thread per core. Please confirm that.

    If this is the case, the multi-threading performance of this i3 CPU should be inferior to the multithreading performance of the 2012 Mac Mini’s quad-core i7, which has eight threads (two threads per core).  
    This is wrong.  The strong single core performance of the i3 Mac mini means the 4 single threaded cores out performed the 4 hyper-threaded cores of the 2012 Core i7.  On single core performance the i7 mini is #2 on geek bench and the i3 outperformance many recent model Core i7 MBPs.

    The Core i3 mini (13773) is faster than the Core i5-7500 21.5" 2017 iMac (13700) and only a little behind the Late 2016 MBP with the i7-6820HQ (13829).

    The top Core i7 Mac Mini its #6 on the Mac Geekbench at 23762 ahead of the every Mac except for the 4 iMac Pro models and the 12 core Mac Pro.

    Folks claiming that the Mac mini is "overpriced" are on crack.  These little machines are fantastic for CPU oriented tasks.
    williamlondon
  • Reply 142 of 151
    nhtnht Posts: 4,303member
    With 2 TB3 controllers the new mini is a beast and wins the bang for the buck category for MacOS users.
    williamlondon
  • Reply 143 of 151
    nht said:
    With 2 TB3 controllers the new mini is a beast and wins the bang for the buck category for MacOS users.
    Earlier reports were ONE controller with two busses. Were they wrong? Do you have new information?
  • Reply 144 of 151
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 3,609administrator
    nht said:
    With 2 TB3 controllers the new mini is a beast and wins the bang for the buck category for MacOS users.
    Earlier reports were ONE controller with two busses. Were they wrong? Do you have new information?
    We do, yes. There are two TB3 controllers, and that makes the fourth piece of bad information Apple gave us on the demo floor at the event.
    vulpine
  • Reply 145 of 151
    nht said:
    With 2 TB3 controllers the new mini is a beast and wins the bang for the buck category for MacOS users.
    Earlier reports were ONE controller with two busses. Were they wrong? Do you have new information?
    We do, yes. There are two TB3 controllers, and that makes the fourth piece of bad information Apple gave us on the demo floor at the event.
    "Dear Apple: Thanks a lot. Sincerely, Appleinsider." LOL!

    I wonder if there's a way to determine which ports are tied to which buss? Then one could choose which ports to use to balance bandwidth requirements between devices that are demanding, like an eGPU, and those that can stand to share, like a RAID.
  • Reply 146 of 151
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 3,609administrator
    nht said:
    With 2 TB3 controllers the new mini is a beast and wins the bang for the buck category for MacOS users.
    Earlier reports were ONE controller with two busses. Were they wrong? Do you have new information?
    We do, yes. There are two TB3 controllers, and that makes the fourth piece of bad information Apple gave us on the demo floor at the event.
    "Dear Apple: Thanks a lot. Sincerely, Appleinsider." LOL!

    I wonder if there's a way to determine which ports are tied to which buss? Then one could choose which ports to use to balance bandwidth requirements between devices that are demanding, like an eGPU, and those that can stand to share, like a RAID.
    I can answer that question for you when mine arrives later today.
  • Reply 147 of 151
    nht said:
    With 2 TB3 controllers the new mini is a beast and wins the bang for the buck category for MacOS users.
    Earlier reports were ONE controller with two busses. Were they wrong? Do you have new information?
    We do, yes. There are two TB3 controllers, and that makes the fourth piece of bad information Apple gave us on the demo floor at the event.
    "Dear Apple: Thanks a lot. Sincerely, Appleinsider." LOL!

    I wonder if there's a way to determine which ports are tied to which buss? Then one could choose which ports to use to balance bandwidth requirements between devices that are demanding, like an eGPU, and those that can stand to share, like a RAID.
    I can answer that question for you when mine arrives later today.
    So Mike, what is the answer?
  • Reply 148 of 151
    Sure, the new Mini's better than the old one, but "worth the wait" is a bit too much. Apple could have done it years earlier, and could have equipped it much better. So, yeah, thanks, Apple, for this new Mini, but why didn't you give it to us earlier and better?

    Altogether, the shine's been fading on Apple in recent years. They used to stand for cutting-edge technology, products that could help ordinary people to do amazing things easily. Lately, they seem to be more interested in bells and whistles (Mojave's highly-touted dark mode, cool emojis - all a bit underwhelming).
  • Reply 149 of 151
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 3,609administrator
    larz2112 said:
    nht said:
    With 2 TB3 controllers the new mini is a beast and wins the bang for the buck category for MacOS users.
    Earlier reports were ONE controller with two busses. Were they wrong? Do you have new information?
    We do, yes. There are two TB3 controllers, and that makes the fourth piece of bad information Apple gave us on the demo floor at the event.
    "Dear Apple: Thanks a lot. Sincerely, Appleinsider." LOL!

    I wonder if there's a way to determine which ports are tied to which buss? Then one could choose which ports to use to balance bandwidth requirements between devices that are demanding, like an eGPU, and those that can stand to share, like a RAID.
    I can answer that question for you when mine arrives later today.
    So Mike, what is the answer?
    Sorry! Yeah, looking at the back of the machine, the left two ports are on one controller, and the right two are on the other.
    larz2112
  • Reply 150 of 151
    dewme said:
    It is now safe to say the Mini is  not going to be Apple's budget or entry level product that some folks were hoping for. It's one thing for us to say "the ecosystem could use a less expensive one, at a $499 or $599 price-point" but quite another to identify what we're willing to give up on the lowest end configuration to hit that price point. 
    That ship sailed quite some time ago. It remains interesting how techie boyz think that the higher ups at this company (or any other) just sit around and decide out of pure spite to raise the prices on their products. They didn't research anything, they didn't look at the market trends. They didn't see that the point of entry into the Apple ecosystem is not a Mac mini but the iPhone. They certainly don't want your first Mac to be an iMac rather than a Mac mini. Nope, they lit a $100 bill for their cigars and raised the price out of fiat.

    Techie boyz like to consider themselves as super geniuses at *everything* but their analyses and comments often amount to a great deal of spoon-clanging and bib-dribbling over what *they* prefer, and deliberately mistake that for the market in general. The original raison d'être (that means "reason for being") of the Mac mini was to get people to switch to their platform. That angle isn't compelling anymore. If you see people stacking these devices to create render farms or whatever, why would you cling to the previous model of marketing the Mac mini? And why would you stick to the same price point of over 4 years ago? 

    This is what you get when you have a company that exists on the high end. Make your financial choices that fit your finances, but stop pretending any company needs to conform to your personal situation.

    That's capitalism, dood. 
  • Reply 151 of 151
    gbdoc said:
    Sure, the new Mini's better than the old one, but "worth the wait" is a bit too much. Apple could have done it years earlier, and could have equipped it much better. So, yeah, thanks, Apple, for this new Mini, but why didn't you give it to us earlier and better?

    Altogether, the shine's been fading on Apple in recent years. They used to stand for cutting-edge technology, products that could help ordinary people to do amazing things easily. Lately, they seem to be more interested in bells and whistles (Mojave's highly-touted dark mode, cool emojis - all a bit underwhelming).
    "They used to stand for cutting-edge technology, products that could help ordinary people to do amazing things easily"

    Their products still help ordinary people to do amazing things easily. That hasn't changed.
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