IDC: Apple Watch Series 4 accounted for less than 20 percent of Apple Watch sales in Q3

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  • Reply 41 of 44
    Wow, if my business relied on market metrics from IDC. I'd just save the money and roll dice instead. Even a cursory review of their reporting shows glaring, if not entirely comical errors.

    Like putting devices like the Mi Band 3 in the same category as the Apple Watch or indeed any smart watch:
    - The device still lacks basic features that were mature in the Gen 0 Apple Watch.
    - They are in vastly different price brackets
    - Shipped units of a low-RRP, cheap to manufacture plastic band has no bearings on market share whatsoever, nor the smartwatch market.
    - The item is frequently a gift with purchase

    IDC might as well put Razor scooters in the same category as luxury vehicles. To satiate market demand for people to move around on wheels.  :D

    These glaring faults don't even scratch the surface of how IDC actually have no realistic ability to estimate both watch sales figures, units or model share.
    And if you were a paying customer you'd know that they do split the market out by price band and provide market share by revenue. Reading a free press release is not the same as buying their reports/services.
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  • Reply 42 of 44
    fred1fred1 Posts: 1,168member
    nicholfd said:
    fred1 said:
    fred1 said:
    Am I the only one that decided to go for a Xiaomi watch because I wanted more than 18 hours of use per charge at less than a third of the price? Granted, it’s not an Apple product, but I get around a week per 2-hour charge and the sleep tracking is excellent.
    Irrelevant, because the AW is an accessory device, and the device it’s an accessory to requires nightly charging. Thus it takes no additional effort and has no additional opportunity cost to charge both at bed time. You can get two days if you need to track sleep one night, otherwise you can charge while in the shower in the morning after nightly sleep tracking. 
    It’s not irrelevant if you want to use it 24 hours a day to, say, track sleep, which I realize isn’t important for everyone. But just how does it last “two days”’when the tech specs on the Apple web site state 18 hours between charges. This doesn’t give it enough time to last through the night after a day’s use. Also, I don’t know how long your showers last, but according to Apple, a full charge takes 2 hours. 
    I wear my AW4 w/LTE all day & all night (for sleep tracking).  When I get up in the morning, clean-up, shower, etc., I put it on the charger for < 1 hour, and it is fully charged when I'm ready to leave for work.
    That’s good to know. Thank you. I’ve only been able to base my knowledge of Apple Watches on the specs I see on the Apple web site and this time-between-charges thing has been a big deterrent. I’m glad to know that it’s not as bad as Apple makes it sound! 🤔
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  • Reply 43 of 44
    carnegiecarnegie Posts: 1,085member
    fred1 said:
    nicholfd said:
    fred1 said:
    fred1 said:
    Am I the only one that decided to go for a Xiaomi watch because I wanted more than 18 hours of use per charge at less than a third of the price? Granted, it’s not an Apple product, but I get around a week per 2-hour charge and the sleep tracking is excellent.
    Irrelevant, because the AW is an accessory device, and the device it’s an accessory to requires nightly charging. Thus it takes no additional effort and has no additional opportunity cost to charge both at bed time. You can get two days if you need to track sleep one night, otherwise you can charge while in the shower in the morning after nightly sleep tracking. 
    It’s not irrelevant if you want to use it 24 hours a day to, say, track sleep, which I realize isn’t important for everyone. But just how does it last “two days”’when the tech specs on the Apple web site state 18 hours between charges. This doesn’t give it enough time to last through the night after a day’s use. Also, I don’t know how long your showers last, but according to Apple, a full charge takes 2 hours. 
    I wear my AW4 w/LTE all day & all night (for sleep tracking).  When I get up in the morning, clean-up, shower, etc., I put it on the charger for < 1 hour, and it is fully charged when I'm ready to leave for work.
    That’s good to know. Thank you. I’ve only been able to base my knowledge of Apple Watches on the specs I see on the Apple web site and this time-between-charges thing has been a big deterrent. I’m glad to know that it’s not as bad as Apple makes it sound! ߤ䦬t;/div>
    You should keep in mind that different people can get very different battery life results based in part on how they use their Apple Watches. I’ve been getting great battery life out of my Series 4. It typically doesn’t get below 50% for me, unless I don’t bother to charge it at all for more than a day. I could, with my normal use, probably easily get through 2 days without charging it.

    But battery life might not be nearly as good if, e.g., I had the screen set to stay on longer after each use or used it more to stream music or had it in workout mode (with the heart rate monitor active) more.
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  • Reply 44 of 44
    fred1fred1 Posts: 1,168member
    carnegie said:
    fred1 said:
    nicholfd said:
    fred1 said:
    fred1 said:
    Am I the only one that decided to go for a Xiaomi watch because I wanted more than 18 hours of use per charge at less than a third of the price? Granted, it’s not an Apple product, but I get around a week per 2-hour charge and the sleep tracking is excellent.
    Irrelevant, because the AW is an accessory device, and the device it’s an accessory to requires nightly charging. Thus it takes no additional effort and has no additional opportunity cost to charge both at bed time. You can get two days if you need to track sleep one night, otherwise you can charge while in the shower in the morning after nightly sleep tracking. 
    It’s not irrelevant if you want to use it 24 hours a day to, say, track sleep, which I realize isn’t important for everyone. But just how does it last “two days”’when the tech specs on the Apple web site state 18 hours between charges. This doesn’t give it enough time to last through the night after a day’s use. Also, I don’t know how long your showers last, but according to Apple, a full charge takes 2 hours. 
    I wear my AW4 w/LTE all day & all night (for sleep tracking).  When I get up in the morning, clean-up, shower, etc., I put it on the charger for < 1 hour, and it is fully charged when I'm ready to leave for work.
    That’s good to know. Thank you. I’ve only been able to base my knowledge of Apple Watches on the specs I see on the Apple web site and this time-between-charges thing has been a big deterrent. I’m glad to know that it’s not as bad as Apple makes it sound! ߤ䦬t;/div>
    You should keep in mind that different people can get very different battery life results based in part on how they use their Apple Watches. I’ve been getting great battery life out of my Series 4. It typically doesn’t get below 50% for me, unless I don’t bother to charge it at all for more than a day. I could, with my normal use, probably easily get through 2 days without charging it.

    But battery life might not be nearly as good if, e.g., I had the screen set to stay on longer after each use or used it more to stream music or had it in workout mode (with the heart rate monitor active) more.
    Understood, thanks. I’m still very surprised to hear that it goes beyond the 18 hours that Apple states. Now my one big reason for not buying one is gone! 😳 (though there’s still the matter of cost)
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