Do lawyers go to special law schools to represent these cases ?
Shakespeare has a line that correctly describes this
situation. If you know it, please step forward and move to the front of the queue.
If you don't you may be the problem.
So can you not use an Apple product without passwords? I use a passcode and finger print scanner on my OnePlus phone, but it's not a requirement. Seems as though it should be optional. But 22 seconds is 22 seconds and isn't that much time if you are authenticating other devices.
Only in America.
CheeseFreeze said: Now, Apple’s 2-way-authentication is notoriously bad (it often gives me the authentication code on the same machine that requested it - defeating the purpose, and yes it’s slow), but what options do they really have?
I would agree with the lawsuit. The two factor authentication process is time consuming and inconvenient for the users. Apple should work on another way to strengthen security. What happened to simple and intuitive philosophy of Apple’s?
I would agree with the lawsuit. The two factor authentication process is time consuming and inconvenient for the users.
patsu said:Not really. Such a reversal will need an equally strong security to prevent bad guys from turning off your 2FA at will.That means you'll need your 2FA to turn off your 2FA, which won't help the plaintiff anyway when he's already in trouble. :-)
patsu said:There is already a fallback when your trusted devices are unavailable. It's your trusted phone numbers:https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204915You'll receive the code via text or an automated call.
patsu said:Other companies like Microsoft use this awfully silly long code as your last backup code. Everyone has to write or print it for safekeeping. I never remember where I keep that piece of paper. So it's completely useless in this regard.
I don't use iCloud Keychain because I prefer 1Password, but I believe it requires 2FA.
sumergo said:Don't you have to voluntarily opt-in to Two factor?
hammeroftruth said:These are the same idiots who don’t back up their devices and think it’s Apple’s fault when they stop working and their data is lost.
hammeroftruth said:2 factor is important now that other countries are working to hack your data to get your info for future manipulation of our elections and our country’s interests, both foreign and domestic.
roundaboutnow said:Strange that this hasn't been thought through though. I would think some sort of check could be put in place to determine which iCloud ...
roundaboutnow said:PS: What has thrown me off is where to enter the authentication code. I forget how exactly this happened to me, but I think it was when I was re-purposing an old iPhone to be an iPod. Maybe while connecting it to my iCloud account? I think we're supposed to enter the code after the password in the password entry box, right? Anyway, it wasn't clear to me at the time, and I entered the code in the password field all by itself (without the password). Thinking I mis-typed, I ended up making too many attempts and had to reset my password. This was a bigger deal than I thought because of how many Apple devices and services I have that are connected to the account. I had to re-enter my new password in a bunch of places! I think it would be better if there was a third dedicated entry box for authentication code, after the User ID and Password entry boxes.
I don’t think this warrants a lawsuit, but let me tell you a story.1. I sent my iPhone 6s in for a battery replacement.2. One day, I woke up and thought “I’m going to wipe my IPad clean” - Background: I actually do this several times a year, usually after a significant OS upgrade. It also cleans of any games, junk, etc. that I don’t really need. I do this with the knowledge that I don’t use backup, but my contacts, calendar, shortcuts, passwords will sync back. I think you can see my problem. My 6s has been gone 10 days at this point, and it took a full 2 weeks to get my phone back (bad Apple).Anyways, my wiped iPad boots up but I run into 2FA to set up the iPad. I know everything I need to know (password to AppleID) but what I don’t have is my 6s. (Apple sends the code to the 6s and there’s no alternative).I also don’t know my email password because it’s saved in Keychain.At this point, I also don’t know what happened to my phone. It should be fixed (it was just a freakin battery) and as of the previous day I’d already reached the highest level of support. (There was no update on Apple’s site that they even received it). The nice support lady, wanted to call me with an update... no phone. So, we agreed on email... now no email.Fortunately, I remembered that I removed the SIM card. So, I went to my T-mobile store and used a display phone to authenticate. Got my IPad up and running and found my iPhone was found/done and being shipped back.Moral of the story is 2FA is great, but I really want it tied to something other than Idevice, like a YubiKey.So, the lawsuit isn’t entirely frivolous. I also didn’t enable 2FA for my AppleID... I do want 2FA to log into my devices, but that’s not currently an option. I don’t care as much about my AppleID password it’s really really complex... as in come back in a few 100 million years (cracking it with today’s tech).