Samsung is first to market with a foldable phone. It’s a work in progress so expect some bumps in the road. Samsung gets a pass on this. You know it’s true. But if this were Apple it would be “DON’T THEY TEST THIS STUFF BEFORE THEY RELEASE IT?"
If anything I bought at $2,000 broke within a week I would be royally pissed.-That said I like the form factor from the video's I've seen and am glad that Samsung is developing these. I'll just wait for 5-7 years for Samsung to work out the problems and then source the display's to Apple to create a better version in the iPhone XV. Then in a few years after that I may be able to afford it. The future is only 10 years away.
Of course the Huawei folding phone is even more expensive. Maybe their phones don't break but I will surprised if any of these last 1 full year.
My first thought when I read the headline was "Are people really buying this POS?!"..
Then I realized it was just reviewers, who didn't have to pay for them... thank god! Seriously... who is the sheep if anyone buys this crap, especially at $2K?
Samsung already is a cesspool occupant as far as I'm concerned, yet even I am surprised that they put out such garbage - and expensive garbage - expecting it to be anywhere near ready for the masses.
I cracked up when Marques Brownlee mistaken part of the screen as a screen protector and ruined the display after attempting to peel it off! LOL!
Pure shit. Watch Samsung quietly remove it from market in a few weeks. But hey, they were first!!! /s
Samsung is evidently good enough that Apple uses their OLED displays in the X series which they spent years developing. I hope they become a supplier of folding displays to Apple but it will take at least 5 years.
I have to laugh at people saying at least a Samsung is trying. I’m sorry but you try in the labs not in public. By the time a device gets released to the public it should not have a glaring flaws like this.
That's not the android way. Google released the Pixel 2XL with a bad (substandard) screen and a bunch of other problems. It's just that the Android fanbois (like Bohn from theVerge) minimize the problems.
Yeah, if I hold my breath waiting for any major media outlet to use the term “fold-gate” and calling out Samsung for shipping an unmitigated POS, I’ll die.
But even ignoring the broken functionality (really quite predictable with that hinge, I would have said — Apple itself was not immune to hinge issues until they invested years in perfecting their MBP hinge design) — take a good look at the non-functional screen Marques Brownlee posted in the Twitter picture you can see in this article.
CHECK. OUT. THAT. OBVIOUS. SEAM.
That is not due to manufacturing issues, that is the screen in its natural off or dark state. This is why Sammy showed this thing off in such low light — imagine trying to enjoy a movie with a semi-visible (and likely to become more visible over time) seam in it.
Since no major media outlet will say it, I’ll be among the first: this is a terrible product even by Samsung standards, and should not have left the lab without much more time and testing put into the idea. Who green lit this thing for public release?
Foldable screens are great! for people who don't understand physics Hinge is an obvious weak point I'd like to see a foldable phone last 2-3 years without any issues at the hinge
Samsung is first to market with a foldable phone. It’s a work in progress so expect some bumps in the road. Samsung gets a pass on this. You know it’s true. But if this were Apple it would be “DON’T THEY TEST THIS STUFF BEFORE THEY RELEASE IT?"
This is something I really don’t understand. I could expect that they don’t last as long as they say. 200,000 folds is a lot of folds after all. But maybe they would start breaking after 100,000, even 50,000. But this amazes me. Unless this first batch is faulty, it makes no sense.
On top of that, these aren't your typical "first batch" devices as they were shipped to a select group of reviewers so they could write glowing articles about the device.
I have to wonder if this will even go on sale next week.
Samsung is first to market with a foldable phone. It’s a work in progress so expect some bumps in the road. Samsung gets a pass on this. You know it’s true. But if this were Apple it would be “DON’T THEY TEST THIS STUFF BEFORE THEY RELEASE IT?"
My first thought when I read the headline was "Are people really buying this POS?!"..
Then I realized it was just reviewers, who didn't have to pay for them... thank god! Seriously... who is the sheep if anyone buys this crap, especially at $2K?
Samsung already is a cesspool occupant as far as I'm concerned, yet even I am surprised that they put out such garbage - and expensive garbage - expecting it to be anywhere near ready for the masses.
I cracked up when Marques Brownlee mistaken part of the screen as a screen protector and ruined the display after attempting to peel it off! LOL!
Pure shit. Watch Samsung quietly remove it from market in a few weeks. But hey, they were first!!! /s
Samsung is evidently good enough that Apple uses their OLED displays in the X series which they spent years developing. I hope they become a supplier of folding displays to Apple but it will take at least 5 years.
As a component vendor, Samsung are fine. Why ? because as the client buying the components at scale, buying say millions of screens, or millions of DRAM chips, you can set the balance between quality and price, and hold their feet to the fire if they can't meet it. Samsung isn't going to say "like it or lump it" to a single, multi-billion dollar customer. In this kind of situation, you see the best work out of Samsung.
Many of Samsung's products are designed/optimised to look great at the point of sale - sometimes at the expense of how they work in practice (eg over-saturated screen colour, or features that only work in specific demo Apps for Samsung's version of Android)
If you buy a TV from them, or a smartphone from them, they can totally do that, and play the edge of what is allowable under consumer protection law (because most people won't exercise their rights). This is the situation in which you typically see the worst out of Samsung (unless you are an employee and then we get into working conditions and carcinogens in the workplace)
That's one of the differences between Apple and most other companies imo.
Apple will usually not release something until it's ready for primetime and the experience is great.
<cough> Butterfly keyboards <cough>
What percentage of actual users have an issue? Despite the pro clickbaiters, Apple says the number is minor. What data says otherwise?
Apple problems always get blown out of proportion (esp iPhone issues). People just don’t realize the sheer quantities Apple sells. Only a tiny percentage of users is enough to generate hundreds or thousands of complaints online.
Samsung is first to market with a foldable phone. It’s a work in progress so expect some bumps in the road. Samsung gets a pass on this. You know it’s true. But if this were Apple it would be “DON’T THEY TEST THIS STUFF BEFORE THEY RELEASE IT?"
Except no one has given a Samsung a pass.
Considering all the news outlets, not just tech-based news, isn't claiming that Samsung ha lost its way, that the company is destine to fail, claims about the company's lack of focus since their previous CEO, or a dramatic fall in their stock price says they're getting a much bigger pass than Apple ever gets.
Or maybe version 5, if you go by the problems with the Babylon stations.
They built the Babylon station as a place to establish peace in the galaxy, and it blew up.
So they built Babylon 2, and it blew up.
Then they built Babylon 3, which was blown up by terrorists.
Next, they built Babylon 4, which got sucked down a time warp, into the first Shadow war and then blew up.
But the fifth one stayed up!
Or just 4 versions if you follow the Monty Python Mantra:
When I started here, all there was was swamp. Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in these islands.
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But even ignoring the broken functionality (really quite predictable with that hinge, I would have said — Apple itself was not immune to hinge issues until they invested years in perfecting their MBP hinge design) — take a good look at the non-functional screen Marques Brownlee posted in the Twitter picture you can see in this article.
CHECK. OUT. THAT. OBVIOUS. SEAM.
That is not due to manufacturing issues, that is the screen in its natural off or dark state. This is why Sammy showed this thing off in such low light — imagine trying to enjoy a movie with a semi-visible (and likely to become more visible over time) seam in it.
Since no major media outlet will say it, I’ll be among the first: this is a terrible product even by Samsung standards, and should not have left the lab without much more time and testing put into the idea. Who green lit this thing for public release?
for people who don't understand physics
Hinge is an obvious weak point
I'd like to see a foldable phone last 2-3 years without any issues at the hinge
I have to wonder if this will even go on sale next week.
Many of Samsung's products are designed/optimised to look great at the point of sale - sometimes at the expense of how they work in practice (eg over-saturated screen colour, or features that only work in specific demo Apps for Samsung's version of Android)
If you buy a TV from them, or a smartphone from them, they can totally do that, and play the edge of what is allowable under consumer protection law (because most people won't exercise their rights). This is the situation in which you typically see the worst out of Samsung (unless you are an employee and then we get into working conditions and carcinogens in the workplace)
Apple problems always get blown out of proportion (esp iPhone issues). People just don’t realize the sheer quantities Apple sells. Only a tiny percentage of users is enough to generate hundreds or thousands of complaints online.
When I started here, all there was was swamp. Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em.
It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one.
That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one.
That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up!
And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in these islands.