Apple would expectedly send C&D letters to anyone violating copyright, NDA, etc. Here, my guess is that they are arguing that they are also being misrepresented by a product that is purporting to be an Apple product.
Basically, Apple is saying that the item in the photo, while not necessarily an Apple product, is sufficiently similar to an Apple product to be damaging to the brand.
So, they aren't saying that it's going to be a shipping product, rather that it's a prototype or hacked Apple product and don't want people to be misled. I wonder if I tore my iBook apart, painted it silver and tried to pass the photos off as an iBook Limited Edition if a similar letter would arrive.</strong><hr></blockquote>
umm apple has only sent cease and desit letters for products that turn out to be real history has shown this. they have never sent one for any other reason.
The only thing thats bothering me is the response time apple had and apple still hasn't gotten it off certain websites usually they are much much quicker. thats the only thing that bothers me
HEY!?!?!? Where is this Cease & Desist letter, if you posted it why take it down. ::Grr:: I dunno, I for one still haven't gotten one and by posting the photos I've got over 10,000 hits. (and $72 in donations via my donation link ) My point is... if ya got one Eugene, can I see it so that I know what to expect? Thx mate!
Eugene, thanks, I saw the letter this morning but I had to run to work, naturally, now that I'm trying to kill some time, it's gone. Why'dya take it down? Did you get more Apple Legal grief?
Maybe you could PM me about it, I won't post the letter in any public space, I'd just like to get an idea of the language used. IIRC, it's rather ambiguous on the matter of 'whom' Apple does not allow to publish product shots. With the logo obscured the way it is, and you not under any form of NDA, Apple Legal really hasn't any recourse. They can be as 'concerned' as they like but it's just mumbo-jumbo.
Please e-mail me the letter, or (anyone) point me to a link of someone who is posting a letter so I can verify the language. About 5 minutes after, I'll tell you (for certain) whether this thing is real or not.
MacBidouille says today that the powermacs will be presented the 5th of August.
toi tu dois le savoir non ? t'es de France.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Google translation yields:
There is a strong probability that the new machines pro are marketing (or presented) on August 5! - They will have, as one can expect a bus report GDR it. This Bus GDR will not be a 133*2, but a 166*2! The report exchanges will thus be done to "333
umm apple has only sent cease and desit letters for products that turn out to be real history has shown this. they have never sent one for any other reason.</strong><hr></blockquote>
How do you know? What was the last photo of a prototype case that was posted to the web? The red mobo on eBay was yanked. Are you sure that's going to ship?
I've seen a number of prototype cases in person over the years but never seen a photo of one posted. If I had snapped pics of them and posted them, I'm pretty sure that Apple legal would have sent a nice letter along... and some of those systems didn't ship in the form that I saw them.
I thought this thread had been deleted <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
<strong>I thought this thread had been deleted <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
It was...its topic number is different now. Also, one post appears to be missing, judging from my recollection of which post was at the top of the page before....
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It's a non-admission.
Apple would expectedly send C&D letters to anyone violating copyright, NDA, etc. Here, my guess is that they are arguing that they are also being misrepresented by a product that is purporting to be an Apple product.
Basically, Apple is saying that the item in the photo, while not necessarily an Apple product, is sufficiently similar to an Apple product to be damaging to the brand.
So, they aren't saying that it's going to be a shipping product, rather that it's a prototype or hacked Apple product and don't want people to be misled. I wonder if I tore my iBook apart, painted it silver and tried to pass the photos off as an iBook Limited Edition if a similar letter would arrive.</strong><hr></blockquote>
umm apple has only sent cease and desit letters for products that turn out to be real history has shown this. they have never sent one for any other reason.
The only thing thats bothering me is the response time apple had and apple still hasn't gotten it off certain websites usually they are much much quicker. thats the only thing that bothers me
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[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
HEY!?!?!? Where is this Cease & Desist letter, if you posted it why take it down. ::Grr:: I dunno, I for one still haven't gotten one and by posting the photos I've got over 10,000 hits. (and $72 in donations via my donation link ) My point is... if ya got one Eugene, can I see it so that I know what to expect? Thx mate!
Maybe you could PM me about it, I won't post the letter in any public space, I'd just like to get an idea of the language used. IIRC, it's rather ambiguous on the matter of 'whom' Apple does not allow to publish product shots. With the logo obscured the way it is, and you not under any form of NDA, Apple Legal really hasn't any recourse. They can be as 'concerned' as they like but it's just mumbo-jumbo.
Please e-mail me the letter, or (anyone) point me to a link of someone who is posting a letter so I can verify the language. About 5 minutes after, I'll tell you (for certain) whether this thing is real or not.
It seems to be exactly the same wording that was sent to spymac and the French site...
<a href="http://www.macbidouille.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2002-07-21#3087" target="_blank">The C&D from Macbidouille</a>
Peace,
Marc
[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: Marcus ]</p>
Announcement : August (mid to end of August)
I will play with in October ? November ?
[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: Appleworm ]</p>
When the future XMac and XBook will be available ?
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MacBidouille says today that the powermacs will be presented the 5th of August.
toi tu dois le savoir non ? t'es de France.
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MacBidouille says today that the powermacs will be presented the 5th of August.
toi tu dois le savoir non ? t'es de France.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well it says also that these powermacs will have 166*2 DDR bus
:eek: ,
but the information is not confirmed.
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MacBidouille says today that the powermacs will be presented the 5th of August.
toi tu dois le savoir non ? t'es de France.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Never trust a French website unless you speak French. Something always seems to get lost in the translation.
<strong>toi tu dois le savoir non ? t'es de France.</strong><hr></blockquote>
turtois what?
I'd like to thank every one who send me the pics!
Bless You, you guys are Great!
PS. Please do not send me anymore of them.
<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: sirheikki ]</p>
<strong>Could someone please send me the pics? </strong><hr></blockquote>
Check your email
[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: Marcus ]</p>
<strong>ThanksI can now tell you both what that is and where it is, if you really wanna know that is.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wanna know....
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MacBidouille says today that the powermacs will be presented the 5th of August.
toi tu dois le savoir non ? t'es de France.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Google translation yields:
There is a strong probability that the new machines pro are marketing (or presented) on August 5! - They will have, as one can expect a bus report GDR it. This Bus GDR will not be a 133*2, but a 166*2! The report exchanges will thus be done to "333
[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: BJNY ]</p>
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umm apple has only sent cease and desit letters for products that turn out to be real history has shown this. they have never sent one for any other reason.</strong><hr></blockquote>
How do you know? What was the last photo of a prototype case that was posted to the web? The red mobo on eBay was yanked. Are you sure that's going to ship?
I've seen a number of prototype cases in person over the years but never seen a photo of one posted. If I had snapped pics of them and posted them, I'm pretty sure that Apple legal would have sent a nice letter along... and some of those systems didn't ship in the form that I saw them.
[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
<strong>I thought this thread had been deleted <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
It was...its topic number is different now. Also, one post appears to be missing, judging from my recollection of which post was at the top of the page before....
thxs mods