Apple criticized for users' unwanted sexual behavior in 'random chat apps'

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in General Discussion edited November 2019
The Washington Post has investigated complaints of inappropriate behavior surfacing in App Store reviews on what it says are six social apps, including some aimed at minors.

Chat for Stranges is one of six random chat apps investigated
Chat for Stranges is one of six random chat apps investigated


According to the Washington Post, the user reviews in Apple's App Store include over 1,500 complaints of unsolicited sexual approaches received on social networking or "random chat apps." The publication says that at least one such app was intended to be used by children as young as 12.

"Using a machine learning algorithm to identify App Store reviews containing reports of unwanted sexual content, racism and bullying," says the publication, "The Post sifted through more than 130,000 reviews of six random chat apps, all but one of which were ranked in the top 100 for social networking by Apple earlier this month."

"The Post manually inspected the more than 1,500 reviews that made mention of uncomfortable sexual situations," it continued. "'A man who is sick in the head and disgusting decided to show some things that shouldn't have been shown,' read one review of the app Monkey in September."

During its investigation, the Post spoke with users including one young woman who said she "wished she could slap herself" for having used such apps because of the reactions she had from male users, even when she told them she was just 15.

"They'd still push for sexual things," she said. "Even if I said my real age, like 12 or 13, they'd say that's okay. It made me feel uncomfortable."

Apple has a more stringent app review process than most other digital marketplaces do, but what it checks is the app itself. What users then choose to send via the app cannot be predicted or controlled by Apple.

However, the Post suggests Apple could replicate the publication's work and regularly check for users' reviews on the App Store.

"About 2 percent of all iOS reviews of Monkey, ranked 10th most popular in Apple's social networking category earlier this month, contained reports of unwanted sexual experiences, according to The Post's investigation," said the publication. "Despite that, the app was approved for users 12 and older."

Following the investigation, Apple has raised the minimum age limit on Monkey to 17.

"We created the App Store to be a safe and trusted place for our customers to get apps and we take all reports of inappropriate or illegal contact extremely seriously," Apple spokesman Fred Sainz told the Post.

"If the purpose of these apps is not inappropriate," he continued, "we want to give developers a chance to ensure they are properly complying with the rules, but we don't hesitate to remove them from the App Store if they don't."

Monkey is another of six random chat apps investigated
Monkey is another of six random chat apps investigated


The former App Store director of review at Apple, Phillip Shoemaker, said that what were called "chat roulette" apps were banned during his time, and that he believes the same should be true of random chat ones.

"In my mind," he said, "these have to go. "Ideally what you want is a bot to go through the reviews. If they did, we'd be seeing a lot more apps getting pulled off the store."

Four of the six apps mentioned in the Post's article -- Monkey, ChatLive, Chat for Strangers and Holla -- declined to comment on the piece.

Yubo CEO Marc-Antoine Durand told the publication that it has recently improved user protections, and that it will now monitor App Store reviews. In the last six months, Yubo has reportedly removed 20,000 people suspected of being under its age limit.

"Our number one priority is to provide a safe environment for our millions of users to interact and connect," said Robert Rendine, a spokesman for Skout, "and we are continuously working to advance those efforts."

While the Post advocates Apple monitoring App Store reviews, it also says that the problem is a moving target. Apps made by small companies can grow large audiences, some of whom, in reported cases, are then subjected to sexual and racial abuse.

"What we're encountering with the small app companies is we have no way of finding out who built it, what records they retain, for what period of time, what country we're located in, where the servers are," said Indiana's Captain Chuck Cohen, of the state's Police's Office of Intelligence & Investigative Technologies.
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  • Reply 1 of 22
    I am so happy parents are being involved with what their children are using on their mobiles. Oh wait!
    kurai_kagemac_dogspice-boydewmecornchipJaiOh81Metriacanthosaurusleavingthebiggviclauyycchia
  • Reply 2 of 22
    MplsPMplsP Posts: 3,925member
    This is why Apple should ban reviews!

    It may be appropriate for Apple to look at banning this category of apps if the abusive behaviors predominate but ultimately this is deviant social behavior coming out in the apps. I’m not sure how you can hold Apple responsible for customers’ behavior. Just because some people may use iMessage to arrange a drug deal doesn’t mean we should get rid of iMessage.
    muthuk_vanalingammike1JaiOh81Metriacanthosaurusllamarcfabadmonkchia
  • Reply 3 of 22
    Apple should hire Chris Hansen.

    ArloTimetravelerJaiOh81
  • Reply 4 of 22
    Funny how the WP decided to review Apple and point out some negatives, again. Does the WP not find Amazon forums and reviews worthy of investigation? Does Amazon believe they have a squeaky clean reputation there?
    StrangeDayslostkiwicornchiprcfa
  • Reply 5 of 22
    mike1mike1 Posts: 3,284member
    Funny how the WP decided to review Apple and point out some negatives, again. Does the WP not find Amazon forums and reviews worthy of investigation? Does Amazon believe they have a squeaky clean reputation there?
    You know who owns the WP, right???
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  • Reply 6 of 22
    mike1 said:
    Funny how the WP decided to review Apple and point out some negatives, again. Does the WP not find Amazon forums and reviews worthy of investigation? Does Amazon believe they have a squeaky clean reputation there?
    You know who owns the WP, right???
    That’s my point 
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  • Reply 7 of 22
    mknelsonmknelson Posts: 1,125member
    Funny how the WP decided to review Apple and point out some negatives, again. Does the WP not find Amazon forums and reviews worthy of investigation? Does Amazon believe they have a squeaky clean reputation there?
    I think you missed the point of the article. The problem wasn't with the content of the reviews.

    The reviewers were pointing out problems that occurred in the apps themselves.

    If you really want to get freaked out check out Periscope or similar apps. There will be legit news content and events, paranoid content, exhibitionists, cam girls advertising their wares, and kids streaming. Watch one of the kid videos for the comments. There will be emoji suggestions to raise shirts, drop shorts, show your kitty, etc. Check the followers on those videos. Then come back in a year and find variations of the same follower accounts engaged in the exact same behaviours.
    minicoffeedysamoria
  • Reply 8 of 22
    A chat app to talk to random strangers... What could go wrong? 

    This is a no win situation.  Do you want Apple become big brother?  Maybe you want the government reviewing everything written or said...

    What happened to personally responsibility of parents (to review apps to be installed) and children?  The reviews are an effective warning system.



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  • Reply 9 of 22
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member
    The iPhone for all its greatness in design and technology has altered society in some terrible ways. People are addicted to their phones and cannot put them down or stop wondering if they are missing something ie, a tweet, email, like on a social media app, etc... When I enter or leave a subway station people are looking at their phones from sidewalk to train platform, up and down stairs, entering and leaving the trains. Nobody is really paying attention to the real world any longer. Before you all start hating on me, if it wasn't Apple it would have eventually been another company to cause this seismic shift in how we work as a society, interact or not with each other how we spend our free moments. Everything which is invented has a positive and negative effect, the promise of utopia comes with a bit of hell. 
    minicoffeercfa
  • Reply 10 of 22
    DAalsethDAalseth Posts: 2,783member
    Apple has a more stringent app review process than most other digital marketplaces do, but what it checks is the app itself. What users then choose to send via the app cannot be predicted or controlled by Apple.
    Right there. CANNOT BE PREDICTED OR CONTROLLED BY APPLE. If people insist that no app that could possibly be abused by some AH should ever be in the AppStore, then there will be no apps in the AppStore. Sick morons will always find a way.
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  • Reply 11 of 22
    spice-boy said:
    The iPhone for all its greatness in design and technology has altered society in some terrible ways. People are addicted to their phones and cannot put them down or stop wondering if they are missing something ie, a tweet, email, like on a social media app, etc... When I enter or leave a subway station people are looking at their phones from sidewalk to train platform, up and down stairs, entering and leaving the trains. Nobody is really paying attention to the real world any longer. Before you all start hating on me, if it wasn't Apple it would have eventually been another company to cause this seismic shift in how we work as a society, interact or not with each other how we spend our free moments. Everything which is invented has a positive and negative effect, the promise of utopia comes with a bit of hell. 

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  • Reply 12 of 22
    ...apple should ban all videos on all their devices before someone not "predicted or controlled by apple" figures out how to make and share porn...
    cornchip
  • Reply 13 of 22
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,362member
    So exactly how is Apple responsible for the illegitimate or unsavory use of apps that seemingly have a legitimate purpose?

    Anyone can go into Dick's Sporting Goods, Walmart, or Amazon and purchase a pair of binoculars. These binoculars may be used for birdwatching, hunting, sightseeing, and hundreds of other legitimate use. They can also be used by creeps to look into their neighbor's windows. If someone discovers that they have been the victim of a peeping creep (no need to bring names into this) and writes a scathing review on the store's customer review page saying "my lowlife neighbor used these binoculars to spy on me or my daughter" - is the store the binoculars were purchased in, or the manufacturer of the binoculars, in any way responsible for the illegal activity that was conducted by the creepy neighbor using the binoculars? Should the store quit selling binoculars because they can be used for illegitimate purposes? Should the local newspaper publish a scathing op-ed blaming the sporting goods store for not taking action based on the "victim's" review? 

    In my opinion, and I suspect in a court of law, the answer to all of these questions is NO. 

    If someone repurposes a product of any kind or any form factor that has a bonafide and legitimate use for illegitimate purposes the victims of these crimes must report the offense to legal authorities. Attempting to deal with misuse, abuse, and illegal activities within the context of a customer focused product review forum is just plain asinine. Expecting the product owner or retail outlet selling the product to proactively monitor, intervene, and police the misdeeds of scumbags who are engaged in illegal and/or immoral activities through misuse of a product is far beyond what should be expected of them. Sure, if the owner of the forum happens to see what could be a legal issue surfaced in a comment or forum they could strongly suggest to the "reviewer/victim" that they immediately report the incident to legal authorities, but they should not be expected to officially act in any capacity beyond what you or I or any other participant or reader in the forum is expected to do. Making the store or product owner responsible would only increase their liability and expose them to legal actions. If I owned such a forum and was expected to police it for illegal use of my product or products that I sell, I'd close the forum down immediately because it's not worth the risk.
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  • Reply 14 of 22
    MplsP said:
    This is why Apple should ban reviews!

    It may be appropriate for Apple to look at banning this category of apps if the abusive behaviors predominate but ultimately this is deviant social behavior coming out in the apps. I’m not sure how you can hold Apple responsible for customers’ behavior. Just because some people may use iMessage to arrange a drug deal doesn’t mean we should get rid of iMessage.
    But but...muh cancel culture solves all problems!
  • Reply 15 of 22
    So don't use it. HOW IS THIS SO DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE. Just, don't use it. Exercise a microscopic molecule of personal responsibility and self control, and just don't use it if it is a problem for you.

    How is this Apple's problem? How is this 'ban worthy'? People are the worst.
    edited November 2019 cornchiprcfa
  • Reply 16 of 22
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    MplsP said:
    This is why Apple should ban reviews!
    Why are people on these forums so hell-bent on taking even more power away from consumers?
  • Reply 17 of 22
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    So don't use it. HOW IS THIS SO DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE. Just, don't use it. Exercise a microscopic molecule of personal responsibility and self control, and just don't use it if it is a problem for you.

    How is this Apple's problem? How is this 'ban worthy'? People are the worst.
    I assume you also think that harassed and/or vulnerable groups of people (children, women, minorities, etc) should also not use the subway, go to clubs or restaurants, stay off the sidewalks and streets, and just stop going outside, too?

    People have a right to not be harassed and abused. Just because it’s happening in an online environment doesn’t mean it’s okay to just let this crap go on.

    Yes, it’s a cultural problem, but the solution isn’t to tell victimized people to stop being in the world.
  • Reply 18 of 22
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member

    Funny how the WP decided to review Apple and point out some negatives, again. Does the WP not find Amazon forums and reviews worthy of investigation? Does Amazon believe they have a squeaky clean reputation there?
    You’re missing the entire point. It’s not the reviews. It’s the apps and their users. It’s a call for app makers to tighten the moderation of their app content, as well as tighten the app’s accessibility to underage users.
  • Reply 19 of 22
    dysamoria said:
    So don't use it. HOW IS THIS SO DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE. Just, don't use it. Exercise a microscopic molecule of personal responsibility and self control, and just don't use it if it is a problem for you.

    How is this Apple's problem? How is this 'ban worthy'? People are the worst.
    I assume you also think that harassed and/or vulnerable groups of people (children, women, minorities, etc) should also not use the subway, go to clubs or restaurants, stay off the sidewalks and streets, and just stop going outside, too?

    People have a right to not be harassed and abused. Just because it’s happening in an online environment doesn’t mean it’s okay to just let this crap go on.

    Yes, it’s a cultural problem, but the solution isn’t to tell victimized people to stop being in the world.
    Two quotes that almost perfectly frame the conundrum!


  • Reply 20 of 22
    I am tired of being abused by the Washington Posts utter lack of journalistic credibility on anything.. perhaps if they stopped foisting their lack of morals & honesty on everyone, and stop making up news where there is none, we'd all be better for it.
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