Fake innovation centers from a fake president. Designed to swing votes in the swing state.
He's very real and no matter how hard certain people who can't handle facts and reality insist, he's also the legitimate President, regardless if some people like it or not.
No president who colludes with an enemy to get himself elected can be called legitimate -- especially one who most Americans voted against.
The Mueller report and common sense disproved this. Trump won the election fair and square. The presidency is determined by the electoral college. Don't like that fine, get the law changed before the election. Campaigning would be very different and would only be done in CA, NY, TX, FL and a few other states.
You can continue singing the Bill Barr / FauxNews lies if you want. But most Americans prefer the the truth -- and an honest president. That's probably why most American voted for Hillary. They recognized how vile and corrupt Trump is.
@GeorgeBMac , your comment on this is welcome: IMHO What's more telling is that Hillary Clinton was so disliked and untrusted that a candidate with Trump's iffy credentials and spotty business record could seriously compete. And he VERY seriously competed. What did that say about the Democratic candidate? Certainly not that voters considered Ms. Clinton honest and incorruptible.
Please, PLEASE let a viable 3rd party or independent candidate emerge for an upcoming Presidential run sooner rather than later and if worthy win. Oh and bring along some fresh faces in Congress with no backdoor commitments. Break the duopoly where in practice there's only a very little line between the two parties. They can both be purchased and manipulated, what they say is very often half-truth or outright falsehood, and much of what they say and do is for selfish reasons. Less about love of country and more about how to take advantage of it.
A 77-year old lifelong politician (50 years now as a candidate for some office) carrying questions about his current mental fitness for the job is the best the Democrats have to offer? A person who if successful will be the oldest President we've ever elected by almost a decade? Seriously, could you beg harder for the current President to be reelected? We can do better IMO.
But, your last sentence falls right into the smear tactics Republicans have been so effective at: You condemn Biden based on his age rather than any fundamental flaw. In truth, he is in far better health than Trump. But, the smear campaign will pick up those who are either gullible or simply want it to be true.
This election will be a near-perfect example of why a two-party system controlled by big money and lifelong politicians has failed us. Two deeply flawed candidates (IMO) are the only choices, and people like you have no problem with that as long as "your side's deeply flawed candidate" wins. You'll accept anything as long as he/she has "Dem." at the end? IMO That's why a person as polarizing as Trump actually has a chance of winning in spite of everything. Instead of "anyone but Trump" it was anyone but another chicken-in-every-pot professional politician. Anything but accept any responsibilty huh?
I think this discussion with you has reached its end. You simply aren't going to argue honestly, or consider anything other than "Democrats must win". Clinton lost because she was as deeply flawed as Trump even if you won't admit it. Don't blame it on "the commie's did it", accept your part in it for being so accepting of the candidates. Biden may lose for a similar reason. The better of two horrible candidates for President is not what we should be choosing from, and our Congress should not be a collection of professional legislators serving for decades.
Have a nice day sir.
Thanks for proving my point: Republicans win by smearing the competition -- whether it be Mexicans, China or Democrats -- and the cult buys it every time.
The GOP has fallen a very long way since it had anything constructive or positive to offer the American people. The last was Reagan.
Amazing to me how much China owns the democratic party and how blind you are to their evil ways. You lost fair and square. No need to be a crybaby about it and blaming everyone but yourself.
China owns the Democratic Party? That's beyond hilarious. Not even FauxNews would try that nonsense.
But Putin seems to pretty much own Donald. Donnie needs him to help him cheat in the next election too.
The "report" is the from the Global Times, a CCP tabloid. This is a propaganda piece that CNN (an arm of the DNC) reported as news. The democratic party is so owned by china, frankly it is scary. Bill Clinton gives a $500k speech in Russia (with Putin's permission, of course) and Hillary sells them our uranium. But, yeah, sure, Putin own Trump. Same old same old with you guys. Xi will play Biden like a fiddle, if Biden even know where he is.
Did you mean any of that nonsense seriously? I really hope not.
But, if so, I'm sure there will be lots more Russian Born Conspiracy Theories for you to regurgitate with Trump desperately trying to discredit Biden knowing that he faces an overwhelming loss in November -- and possible jail time afterwards.
What, no comment when I shot you down on over-reporting of corona virus deaths with facts? You really have nothing of value to say, you are like the velveeta cheese of commentary, there's just nothing there.
First it's Putin got Trump elected and now it is russian conspiracy theories. Make up your mind. Does Biden even remember he's running for President? How is he going to tackle the "Luhan" virus? Your hero is 80 and not of sound mind, not to mention he's a rapist.
The Mueller report went over like a lead balloon, even the democrats were disappointed, and his testimony was a joke. If it were true, why didn't Obama, who was president at the time stop it? Trump wasn't in charge at the time.
How was Obama supposed to act on the contents of a report that came out 3 years after he left office?
And if he had acted then the Republicans would have been crying crocodile tears over election interference.
And, why was this not included in the impeachment hearings? Trump got impeached for Biden's crimes. Biden admitted to getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating his son, who has made million in Ukraine and China
He absolutely did not. He added his voice to an international chorus asking for a corrupt prosecutor to be removed, but he has never said it was anything to do with his son.
I'm not talking about the report, I'm referring to russian interference. It has been widely reported that Obama knew about russian interference (buying ads on facebook) but decided to do nothing about it because Hillary had a "95%" chance of winning.
Hunter Biden got a $50k/mo board of director job for a ukrainian energy company for which he had no experience in, all while his father was VP. Doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
@GeorgeBMac ; Huh, that would raise a normal persons eyebrows...
"The coronavirus outbreak, which began in the Chinese city of Wuhan in December last year, has spread to more than 180 countries and sickened close to 2 million people, including more than 80,000 in China (that they admit to). Yet according to the Chinese government, not a single serving member of the country's military has been infected." The link is a Chinese News site.
Personally I'd guess the Chinese are simply lying but if they aren't it would certainly appear suspicious, perhaps a vaccine that's being kept secret.
Nice conspiracy theory there! I give a 7 out of 10!
@GeorgeBMac ; Huh, that would raise a normal persons eyebrows...
"The coronavirus outbreak, which began in the Chinese city of Wuhan in December last year, has spread to more than 180 countries and sickened close to 2 million people, including more than 80,000 in China (that they admit to). Yet according to the Chinese government, not a single serving member of the country's military has been infected." The link is a Chinese News site.
Personally I'd guess the Chinese are simply lying but if they aren't it would certainly appear suspicious, perhaps a vaccine that's being kept secret.
Nice conspiracy theory there! I give a 7 out of 10!
Sounds like you agree with me that the Chinese are simply lying in all likelihood. Am I right?
Fake innovation centers from a fake president. Designed to swing votes in the swing state.
He's very real and no matter how hard certain people who can't handle facts and reality insist, he's also the legitimate President, regardless if some people like it or not.
No president who colludes with an enemy to get himself elected can be called legitimate -- especially one who most Americans voted against.
The Mueller report and common sense disproved this. Trump won the election fair and square. The presidency is determined by the electoral college. Don't like that fine, get the law changed before the election. Campaigning would be very different and would only be done in CA, NY, TX, FL and a few other states.
You can continue singing the Bill Barr / FauxNews lies if you want. But most Americans prefer the the truth -- and an honest president. That's probably why most American voted for Hillary. They recognized how vile and corrupt Trump is.
@GeorgeBMac , your comment on this is welcome: IMHO What's more telling is that Hillary Clinton was so disliked and untrusted that a candidate with Trump's iffy credentials and spotty business record could seriously compete. And he VERY seriously competed. What did that say about the Democratic candidate? Certainly not that voters considered Ms. Clinton honest and incorruptible.
Please, PLEASE let a viable 3rd party or independent candidate emerge for an upcoming Presidential run sooner rather than later and if worthy win. Oh and bring along some fresh faces in Congress with no backdoor commitments. Break the duopoly where in practice there's only a very little line between the two parties. They can both be purchased and manipulated, what they say is very often half-truth or outright falsehood, and much of what they say and do is for selfish reasons. Less about love of country and more about how to take advantage of it.
A 77-year old lifelong politician (50 years now as a candidate for some office) carrying questions about his current mental fitness for the job is the best the Democrats have to offer? A person who if successful will be the oldest President we've ever elected by almost a decade? Seriously, could you beg harder for the current President to be reelected? We can do better IMO.
But, your last sentence falls right into the smear tactics Republicans have been so effective at: You condemn Biden based on his age rather than any fundamental flaw. In truth, he is in far better health than Trump. But, the smear campaign will pick up those who are either gullible or simply want it to be true.
This election will be a near-perfect example of why a two-party system controlled by big money and lifelong politicians has failed us. Two deeply flawed candidates (IMO) are the only choices, and people like you have no problem with that as long as "your side's deeply flawed candidate" wins. You'll accept anything as long as he/she has "Dem." at the end? IMO That's why a person as polarizing as Trump actually has a chance of winning in spite of everything. Instead of "anyone but Trump" it was anyone but another chicken-in-every-pot professional politician. Anything but accept any responsibilty huh?
I think this discussion with you has reached its end. You simply aren't going to argue honestly, or consider anything other than "Democrats must win". Clinton lost because she was as deeply flawed as Trump even if you won't admit it. Don't blame it on "the commie's did it", accept your part in it for being so accepting of the candidates. Biden may lose for a similar reason. The better of two horrible candidates for President is not what we should be choosing from, and our Congress should not be a collection of professional legislators serving for decades.
Have a nice day sir.
Thanks for proving my point: Republicans win by smearing the competition -- whether it be Mexicans, China or Democrats -- and the cult buys it every time.
The GOP has fallen a very long way since it had anything constructive or positive to offer the American people. The last was Reagan.
Amazing to me how much China owns the democratic party and how blind you are to their evil ways. You lost fair and square. No need to be a crybaby about it and blaming everyone but yourself.
China owns the Democratic Party? That's beyond hilarious. Not even FauxNews would try that nonsense.
But Putin seems to pretty much own Donald. Donnie needs him to help him cheat in the next election too.
The "report" is the from the Global Times, a CCP tabloid. This is a propaganda piece that CNN (an arm of the DNC) reported as news. The democratic party is so owned by china, frankly it is scary. Bill Clinton gives a $500k speech in Russia (with Putin's permission, of course) and Hillary sells them our uranium. But, yeah, sure, Putin own Trump. Same old same old with you guys. Xi will play Biden like a fiddle, if Biden even know where he is.
Did you mean any of that nonsense seriously? I really hope not.
But, if so, I'm sure there will be lots more Russian Born Conspiracy Theories for you to regurgitate with Trump desperately trying to discredit Biden knowing that he faces an overwhelming loss in November -- and possible jail time afterwards.
What, no comment when I shot you down on over-reporting of corona virus deaths with facts? You really have nothing of value to say, you are like the velveeta cheese of commentary, there's just nothing there.
First it's Putin got Trump elected and now it is russian conspiracy theories. Make up your mind. Does Biden even remember he's running for President? How is he going to tackle the "Luhan" virus? Your hero is 80 and not of sound mind, not to mention he's a rapist.
Make up my mind? Why? It's both: Putin helped Trump get elected in 2016 and is still rolling out conspiracy theories picked up by Trump and his propaganda outlets.
The Mueller report went over like a lead balloon, even the democrats were disappointed, and his testimony was a joke. If it were true, why didn't Obama, who was president at the time stop it? Trump wasn't in charge at the time.
How was Obama supposed to act on the contents of a report that came out 3 years after he left office?
And if he had acted then the Republicans would have been crying crocodile tears over election interference.
And, why was this not included in the impeachment hearings? Trump got impeached for Biden's crimes. Biden admitted to getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating his son, who has made million in Ukraine and China
He absolutely did not. He added his voice to an international chorus asking for a corrupt prosecutor to be removed, but he has never said it was anything to do with his son.
I'm not talking about the report, I'm referring to russian interference. It has been widely reported that Obama knew about russian interference (buying ads on facebook) but decided to do nothing about it because Hillary had a "95%" chance of winning.
Hunter Biden got a $50k/mo board of director job for a ukrainian energy company for which he had no experience in, all while his father was VP. Doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
Yes, Obama knew that Russia was running a disinformation campaign (that by the way, went far beyond FaceBook ads). And, so did Trump and McConnell. Moscow Mitch threatened to label it a political dirty if Obama revealed how Russia was manipulating the country. So, Obama backed off. So yes, he deserves criticism for that -- but not nearly as much as Moscow Mitch who blocked the information or Trump who encouraged and cooperated with the attack on our election.
As for Hunter Biden... LOL.... Why is it that you don't object to Jared Kushner & Ivanka Trump who have no experience or skills raking in far more of our tax dollars? It doesn't take a genius to figure those out either. You Trumpers knew about Hunter Biden for years -- but for some reason didn't get your panties in a bunch till his daddy announced he would challenge Trump in an election -- then you snowflakes got all upset about it LOL....
The Mueller report went over like a lead balloon, even the democrats were disappointed, and his testimony was a joke. If it were true, why didn't Obama, who was president at the time stop it? Trump wasn't in charge at the time.
How was Obama supposed to act on the contents of a report that came out 3 years after he left office?
And if he had acted then the Republicans would have been crying crocodile tears over election interference.
And, why was this not included in the impeachment hearings? Trump got impeached for Biden's crimes. Biden admitted to getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating his son, who has made million in Ukraine and China
He absolutely did not. He added his voice to an international chorus asking for a corrupt prosecutor to be removed, but he has never said it was anything to do with his son.
I'm not talking about the report, I'm referring to russian interference. It has been widely reported that Obama knew about russian interference (buying ads on facebook) but decided to do nothing about it because Hillary had a "95%" chance of winning.
Hunter Biden got a $50k/mo board of director job for a ukrainian energy company for which he had no experience in, all while his father was VP. Doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
Yes, Obama knew that Russia was running a disinformation campaign (that by the way, went far beyond FaceBook ads). And, so did Trump and McConnell. Moscow Mitch threatened to label it a political dirty if Obama revealed how Russia was manipulating the country. So, Obama backed off. So yes, he deserves criticism for that -- but not nearly as much as Moscow Mitch who blocked the information or Trump who encouraged and cooperated with the attack on our election.
As for Hunter Biden... LOL.... Why is it that you don't object to Jared Kushner & Ivanka Trump who have no experience or skills raking in far more of our tax dollars? It doesn't take a genius to figure those out either. You Trumpers knew about Hunter Biden for years -- but for some reason didn't get your panties in a bunch till his daddy announced he would challenge Trump in an election -- then you snowflakes got all upset about it LOL....
Thanks. Sounds like you agree with me then.
Jared and Ivanka take no gov't salary, they are advisors to the President. The President has the right to choose his advisors. Just like Bill tapped Hillary to develop a health plan. Now, contrast that with Hunter Biden who got a board of directors job at a Ukrainian energy company, for which he had no experience, making $50k/mo all while his daddy was VP of the United States. See the difference? Kinda like how donations to the Clinton foundation dropped by 90% when she lost. Hmm, wonder why, could it be good old pay to play?
The Mueller report went over like a lead balloon, even the democrats were disappointed, and his testimony was a joke. If it were true, why didn't Obama, who was president at the time stop it? Trump wasn't in charge at the time.
How was Obama supposed to act on the contents of a report that came out 3 years after he left office?
And if he had acted then the Republicans would have been crying crocodile tears over election interference.
And, why was this not included in the impeachment hearings? Trump got impeached for Biden's crimes. Biden admitted to getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating his son, who has made million in Ukraine and China
He absolutely did not. He added his voice to an international chorus asking for a corrupt prosecutor to be removed, but he has never said it was anything to do with his son.
I'm not talking about the report, I'm referring to russian interference. It has been widely reported that Obama knew about russian interference (buying ads on facebook) but decided to do nothing about it because Hillary had a "95%" chance of winning.
Hunter Biden got a $50k/mo board of director job for a ukrainian energy company for which he had no experience in, all while his father was VP. Doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
Yes, Obama knew that Russia was running a disinformation campaign (that by the way, went far beyond FaceBook ads). And, so did Trump and McConnell. Moscow Mitch threatened to label it a political dirty if Obama revealed how Russia was manipulating the country. So, Obama backed off. So yes, he deserves criticism for that -- but not nearly as much as Moscow Mitch who blocked the information or Trump who encouraged and cooperated with the attack on our election.
As for Hunter Biden... LOL.... Why is it that you don't object to Jared Kushner & Ivanka Trump who have no experience or skills raking in far more of our tax dollars? It doesn't take a genius to figure those out either. You Trumpers knew about Hunter Biden for years -- but for some reason didn't get your panties in a bunch till his daddy announced he would challenge Trump in an election -- then you snowflakes got all upset about it LOL....
Thanks. Sounds like you agree with me then.
Jared and Ivanka take no gov't salary, they are advisors to the President. The President has the right to choose his advisors. Just like Bill tapped Hillary to develop a health plan. Now, contrast that with Hunter Biden who got a board of directors job at a Ukrainian energy company, for which he had no experience, making $50k/mo all while his daddy was VP of the United States. See the difference? Kinda like how donations to the Clinton foundation dropped by 90% when she lost. Hmm, wonder why, could it be good old pay to play?
Yeh, Jared and Ivanka are true patriots -- devoting their lives to the well being of the people of this country.... LOL...
But, like Trump, they rake in millions into their businesses from their influence and insider positions. If you think they are donating anything, you are a fool.
And, just as Trump has the right to hirer anybody he wants (particularly with Moscow Mitch insuring each is approved) so does every company. No, I do not see a difference.
And, if you want to trash talk foundations, then the crooked one you should be talking about is Trump's. He would likely be in jail -- and he might as soon as he loses in November.
The Mueller report went over like a lead balloon, even the democrats were disappointed, and his testimony was a joke. If it were true, why didn't Obama, who was president at the time stop it? Trump wasn't in charge at the time.
How was Obama supposed to act on the contents of a report that came out 3 years after he left office?
And if he had acted then the Republicans would have been crying crocodile tears over election interference.
And, why was this not included in the impeachment hearings? Trump got impeached for Biden's crimes. Biden admitted to getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating his son, who has made million in Ukraine and China
He absolutely did not. He added his voice to an international chorus asking for a corrupt prosecutor to be removed, but he has never said it was anything to do with his son.
I'm not talking about the report, I'm referring to russian interference. It has been widely reported that Obama knew about russian interference (buying ads on facebook) but decided to do nothing about it because Hillary had a "95%" chance of winning.
Hunter Biden got a $50k/mo board of director job for a ukrainian energy company for which he had no experience in, all while his father was VP. Doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
Yes, Obama knew that Russia was running a disinformation campaign (that by the way, went far beyond FaceBook ads). And, so did Trump and McConnell. Moscow Mitch threatened to label it a political dirty if Obama revealed how Russia was manipulating the country. So, Obama backed off. So yes, he deserves criticism for that -- but not nearly as much as Moscow Mitch who blocked the information or Trump who encouraged and cooperated with the attack on our election.
As for Hunter Biden... LOL.... Why is it that you don't object to Jared Kushner & Ivanka Trump who have no experience or skills raking in far more of our tax dollars? It doesn't take a genius to figure those out either. You Trumpers knew about Hunter Biden for years -- but for some reason didn't get your panties in a bunch till his daddy announced he would challenge Trump in an election -- then you snowflakes got all upset about it LOL....
Thanks. Sounds like you agree with me then.
Jared and Ivanka take no gov't salary, they are advisors to the President. The President has the right to choose his advisors. Just like Bill tapped Hillary to develop a health plan. Now, contrast that with Hunter Biden who got a board of directors job at a Ukrainian energy company, for which he had no experience, making $50k/mo all while his daddy was VP of the United States. See the difference? Kinda like how donations to the Clinton foundation dropped by 90% when she lost. Hmm, wonder why, could it be good old pay to play?
Yeh, Jared and Ivanka are true patriots -- devoting their lives to the well being of the people of this country.... LOL...
But, like Trump, they rake in millions into their businesses from their influence and insider positions. If you think they are donating anything, you are a fool.
And, just as Trump has the right to hirer anybody he wants (particularly with Moscow Mitch insuring each is approved) so does every company. No, I do not see a difference.
And, if you want to trash talk foundations, then the crooked one you should be talking about is Trump's. He would likely be in jail -- and he might as soon as he loses in November.
LOL. I see all you do is deflect, deflect, deflect. Of course, Trump won't be in jail (lol, "likely") and should have no problem beating senile Joe who can't complete a sentence without losing his train of thought and must always have his wife by his side to keep him on track. Not to mention he is a rapist.
Btw, do you live on this comment board? I have yet to see on AppleInsider article you don't comment on. You have 6500 comments and post at 2 am. Wow.
@GeorgeBMac ; Huh, that would raise a normal persons eyebrows...
"The coronavirus outbreak, which began in the Chinese city of Wuhan in December last year, has spread to more than 180 countries and sickened close to 2 million people, including more than 80,000 in China (that they admit to). Yet according to the Chinese government, not a single serving member of the country's military has been infected." The link is a Chinese News site.
Personally I'd guess the Chinese are simply lying but if they aren't it would certainly appear suspicious, perhaps a vaccine that's being kept secret.
Nice conspiracy theory there! I give a 7 out of 10!
Sounds like you agree with me that the Chinese are simply lying in all likelihood. Am I right?
Trump is the only compulsive liar that I know of. Others make occasional mistakes or misstatement that the right wing jumps all over. But at somewhere over 15,000 lies, nobody else is even in his ball park.
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First it's Putin got Trump elected and now it is russian conspiracy theories. Make up your mind. Does Biden even remember he's running for President? How is he going to tackle the "Luhan" virus? Your hero is 80 and not of sound mind, not to mention he's a rapist.
Hunter Biden got a $50k/mo board of director job for a ukrainian energy company for which he had no experience in, all while his father was VP. Doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
Nice conspiracy theory there! I give a 7 out of 10!
Yes, Obama knew that Russia was running a disinformation campaign (that by the way, went far beyond FaceBook ads). And, so did Trump and McConnell. Moscow Mitch threatened to label it a political dirty if Obama revealed how Russia was manipulating the country. So, Obama backed off. So yes, he deserves criticism for that -- but not nearly as much as Moscow Mitch who blocked the information or Trump who encouraged and cooperated with the attack on our election.
As for Hunter Biden... LOL.... Why is it that you don't object to Jared Kushner & Ivanka Trump who have no experience or skills raking in far more of our tax dollars? It doesn't take a genius to figure those out either. You Trumpers knew about Hunter Biden for years -- but for some reason didn't get your panties in a bunch till his daddy announced he would challenge Trump in an election -- then you snowflakes got all upset about it LOL....
Jared and Ivanka take no gov't salary, they are advisors to the President. The President has the right to choose his advisors. Just like Bill tapped Hillary to develop a health plan. Now, contrast that with Hunter Biden who got a board of directors job at a Ukrainian energy company, for which he had no experience, making $50k/mo all while his daddy was VP of the United States. See the difference? Kinda like how donations to the Clinton foundation dropped by 90% when she lost. Hmm, wonder why, could it be good old pay to play?
And, if you want to trash talk foundations, then the crooked one you should be talking about is Trump's. He would likely be in jail -- and he might as soon as he loses in November.
Btw, do you live on this comment board? I have yet to see on AppleInsider article you don't comment on. You have 6500 comments and post at 2 am. Wow.
Trump is the only compulsive liar that I know of. Others make occasional mistakes or misstatement that the right wing jumps all over. But at somewhere over 15,000 lies, nobody else is even in his ball park.