Didn’t marketing companies used to be experts on image & presentation? What an ugly display of user-contempt from these greedy hacks who’ve lost their art.
I completely understand the need for advertising in order to keep sites (like this one) operating. Google's original (and brilliant) idea was to gather some data so that advertising could be personalized, making it more effective. No problem there either.
The moment Google, FB, and other such data-gatherers decided that digital stalking (aka "tracking" like we're all deer or something) was a good idea, and the moment they decided that selling that collected data to others outside the data-gathering company was a good idea -- they themselves created a radical backlash that now sees most users using tools or browsers designed to block all or most advertising completely, resulting in the death of sites or layoffs at even very popular websites. They have nothing but their own overreaching greed to blame for this.
A common-sense set of guidelines that get back to something like Google's original idea, bars tracking outright and forbids selling collected data without compensation AND explicit permission would allow websites to thrive without having to charge subscriptions -- an alternative idea that works well in some cases but can't really be used for everything. The GDPR was a good start, but it needs refinement and consistency as near to worldwide as we can get it.
I completely understand the need for advertising in order to keep sites (like this one) operating. Google's original (and brilliant) idea was to gather some data so that advertising could be personalized, making it more effective. No problem there either.
The moment Google, FB, and other such data-gatherers decided that digital stalking (aka "tracking" like we're all deer or something) was a good idea, and the moment they decided that selling that collected data to others outside the data-gathering company was a good idea -- they themselves created a radical backlash that now sees most users using tools or browsers designed to block all or most advertising completely, resulting in the death of sites or layoffs at even very popular websites. They have nothing but their own overreaching greed to blame for this.
A common-sense set of guidelines that get back to something like Google's original idea, bars tracking outright and forbids selling collected data without compensation AND explicit permission would allow websites to thrive without having to charge subscriptions -- an alternative idea that works well in some cases but can't really be used for everything. The GDPR was a good start, but it needs refinement and consistency as near to worldwide as we can get it.
Google doesn't sell collected user data. There are companies that do, ranging from Acxiom a data aggregator who sells a broad range of information about you, to certain weather apps on your phone, to some state licensing agencies, to the credit bureaus who sell far more than your credit score. Google just isn't one of those.
Meanwhile the pickpockets union is saying that the police are unreasonably putting up warnings about pickpockets active in the area, arguing that the consumer already is aware about pickpockets, and that the pickpockets are already obeying other laws by not killing those that they steal from; and that as such the police activity constitute an anticompetitive behaviour, which is damaging the industry, which has a long and proud history.
Furthermore the pickpockets provide a much important stimulus of such industries as those providing short-term loans, eviction services, as well as pawnshops and online markets of previously own goods; and a direct attack on this well established trade will not only hurt the GNP, but will also cause unemployment as well as raise the welfare costs of the society.
The recent attacks on thieving is clearly a leftist propaganda campaign trying to undermine the power of the free market, not to mention preventing the freedom of people to be cluelessly robbed, used, and exploited for monetary gain by a third party market.
I opened the thread expecting to tell advertisers to go boil their collective heads, but actually there's a reasonable point in there; if European advertisers already need to ask permission to comply with GDPR then it doesn't make much sense for Apple to ask for permission for using the phone's hardware to deliver what the user has already agreed to. Not sure how you'd be able to combine the two in a user friendly way though.
Basically these bad guys are trying to get away with asking about storing what the consumer thinks is a little bit of data, and then in secret launch the online equivalence of an army of spies stalking and collecting data 24/7.
They aren't upset about two popups (easily put into one popup), they are upset about the consumers becoming aware about the shit they are getting away with today.
There is nothing more maddening and a waste of my time than being bombarded with ads, which prevent me from reading the actual material.
Then, because the ads often pop up and are replaced by other ads, browsers are constantly adjusting the webpage for different sized ads, making reading virtually impossible. When it happens, I simply stop viewing the webpage — waste of my time.
Google doesn't sell collected user data. There are companies that do, ranging from Acxiom a data aggregator who sells a broad range of information about you, to certain weather apps on your phone, to some state licensing agencies, to the credit bureaus who sell far more than your credit score. Google just isn't one of those.
Google doesn't sell collected user data. There are companies that do, ranging from Acxiom a data aggregator who sells a broad range of information about you, to certain weather apps on your phone, to some state licensing agencies, to the credit bureaus who sell far more than your credit score. Google just isn't one of those.
Good try, but I don’t believe you
gatorguy as the two g's in his nick suggest works for two g's company. Google doesn't sell data... HA!
Google doesn't sell collected user data. There are companies that do, ranging from Acxiom a data aggregator who sells a broad range of information about you, to certain weather apps on your phone, to some state licensing agencies, to the credit bureaus who sell far more than your credit score. Google just isn't one of those.
Google doesn't sell collected user data. There are companies that do, ranging from Acxiom a data aggregator who sells a broad range of information about you, to certain weather apps on your phone, to some state licensing agencies, to the credit bureaus who sell far more than your credit score. Google just isn't one of those.
Good try, but I don’t believe you
gatorguy as the two g's in his nick suggest works for two g's company. Google doesn't sell data... HA!
LOL. Will I have to wait long for you to prove I'm wrong?
LOL. Will I have to wait long for you to prove I'm wrong?
Take it easy, just joking! But Google sell customer data and it's not alone. Those brave EU advertisers export collected data, of course GDPR conform, to third countries, usually US, India, etc, where this data is cross-referenced and sold by daughter companies to whoever.
LOL. Will I have to wait long for you to prove I'm wrong?
Take it easy, just joking! But Google sell customer data and it's not alone. Those brave EU advertisers export collected data, of course GDPR conform, to third countries, usually US, India, etc, where this data is cross-referenced and sold by daughter companies to whoever.
No Google doesn't sell your data. Period. Their privacy policy is not all that unlike Apple's. Neither one allows for it.
LOL. Will I have to wait long for you to prove I'm wrong?
Take it easy, just joking! But Google sell customer data and it's not alone. Those brave EU advertisers export collected data, of course GDPR conform, to third countries, usually US, India, etc, where this data is cross-referenced and sold by daughter companies to whoever.
No Google doesn't sell your data. Period. Their privacy policy is not all that unlike Apple's. Neither one allows for it.
How do you think Google will survive without selling your data?
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You’re damned right I will.
I smell a lawsuit coming too because Apple.
A common-sense set of guidelines that get back to something like Google's original idea, bars tracking outright and forbids selling collected data without compensation AND explicit permission would allow websites to thrive without having to charge subscriptions -- an alternative idea that works well in some cases but can't really be used for everything. The GDPR was a good start, but it needs refinement and consistency as near to worldwide as we can get it.
Furthermore the pickpockets provide a much important stimulus of such industries as those providing short-term loans, eviction services, as well as pawnshops and online markets of previously own goods; and a direct attack on this well established trade will not only hurt the GNP, but will also cause unemployment as well as raise the welfare costs of the society.
The recent attacks on thieving is clearly a leftist propaganda campaign trying to undermine the power of the free market, not to mention preventing the freedom of people to be cluelessly robbed, used, and exploited for monetary gain by a third party market.
They aren't upset about two popups (easily put into one popup), they are upset about the consumers becoming aware about the shit they are getting away with today.
Then, because the ads often pop up and are replaced by other ads, browsers are constantly adjusting the webpage for different sized ads, making reading virtually impossible. When it happens, I simply stop viewing the webpage — waste of my time.
Google doesn't sell data... HA!
Try to read this: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and