Microsoft president raised concerns about Apple App Store in House antitrust meeting

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  • Reply 61 of 64
    danvmdanvm Posts: 1,506member
    crowley said:
    danvm said:

    If Apple don't change their policies, iOS / iPadOS customers will miss what could be the best possible way to play games in Apple devices
    And that's a consumer right that Apple has to proviide, and government should enforce?
    No, xCloud is not a right that people needs.  So it looks like that government investigation is more than the xCloud example I gave.  I suppose that depending of the findings, government may or may not enforce some policies.  We''ll see...
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  • Reply 62 of 64
    mcdavemcdave Posts: 1,927member
    danvm said:
    mcdave said:
    danvm said:
    mcdave said:
    danvm said:
    genovelle said:
    My question is how much does Microsoft charge for access to Windows on PCs and how much for developers on the Xbox platform?
    The difference is that I can go any retailer and purchase games.  I cannot do that with IOS / iPadOS devices.
    No you can’t, you can only buy games from retailers with agreements which aren’t determined by you.

    My point is that publishers / customers can negotiate / purchase Xbox games with different companies.  That option do not exist for iOS / iPadOS developers / customers.  
    Neither customers nor suppliers/publishers should get to determine how Apple delivers its products or services. They should get to chose to buy/supply or not.
    The App Store specifically solves the failings of the other approaches reconciling Apple’s supplier & customer interests.  Why should they (& we) be forced to regress? 

    Choice doesn’t liberate, it incarcerates.
    The thing is that there are cases where Apple App Store policies are not in line with customer interests.  I already gave the example of game streaming services.  If Apple don't change their policies, iOS / iPadOS customers will miss what could be the best possible way to play games in Apple devices, since Apple won't allow that kind of service.  The only option they will have is Apple Arcade, which at the moment, is terrible.  This is an example where choices is good for customers, and do not incarcerates, as you said.  
    Just because you think game streaming is a good idea, doesn’t mean it is. 

    Apple Arcade works well for us as I’m happy my daughter won’t be exposed to inappropriate content. How does conceding content control to 3rd party services improve that?
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  • Reply 63 of 64
    danvmdanvm Posts: 1,506member
    mcdave said:
    danvm said:
    mcdave said:
    danvm said:
    mcdave said:
    danvm said:
    genovelle said:
    My question is how much does Microsoft charge for access to Windows on PCs and how much for developers on the Xbox platform?
    The difference is that I can go any retailer and purchase games.  I cannot do that with IOS / iPadOS devices.
    No you can’t, you can only buy games from retailers with agreements which aren’t determined by you.

    My point is that publishers / customers can negotiate / purchase Xbox games with different companies.  That option do not exist for iOS / iPadOS developers / customers.  
    Neither customers nor suppliers/publishers should get to determine how Apple delivers its products or services. They should get to chose to buy/supply or not.
    The App Store specifically solves the failings of the other approaches reconciling Apple’s supplier & customer interests.  Why should they (& we) be forced to regress? 

    Choice doesn’t liberate, it incarcerates.
    The thing is that there are cases where Apple App Store policies are not in line with customer interests.  I already gave the example of game streaming services.  If Apple don't change their policies, iOS / iPadOS customers will miss what could be the best possible way to play games in Apple devices, since Apple won't allow that kind of service.  The only option they will have is Apple Arcade, which at the moment, is terrible.  This is an example where choices is good for customers, and do not incarcerates, as you said.  
    Just because you think game streaming is a good idea, doesn’t mean it is. 

    Apple Arcade works well for us as I’m happy my daughter won’t be exposed to inappropriate content. How does conceding content control to 3rd party services improve that?
    It's good to know that your family enjoy Apple Arcade.  But it looks like most customers won't agree with you, considering Apple is already making big changes, even though is has been less than a year,

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/30/apple-arcade-has-shifted-to-focus-on-games-with-higher-engagement

    Could it be that GamePass / xCloud is a better idea that Apple Arcade?  I would think so.  But we'll never know, unless Apple change their policies.  Apple does a lot of things right, sometimes even better than MS.  But gaming is not one of them.
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  • Reply 64 of 64
    mcdavemcdave Posts: 1,927member
    danvm said:
    mcdave said:
    danvm said:
    mcdave said:
    danvm said:
    mcdave said:
    danvm said:
    genovelle said:
    My question is how much does Microsoft charge for access to Windows on PCs and how much for developers on the Xbox platform?
    The difference is that I can go any retailer and purchase games.  I cannot do that with IOS / iPadOS devices.
    No you can’t, you can only buy games from retailers with agreements which aren’t determined by you.

    My point is that publishers / customers can negotiate / purchase Xbox games with different companies.  That option do not exist for iOS / iPadOS developers / customers.  
    Neither customers nor suppliers/publishers should get to determine how Apple delivers its products or services. They should get to chose to buy/supply or not.
    The App Store specifically solves the failings of the other approaches reconciling Apple’s supplier & customer interests.  Why should they (& we) be forced to regress? 

    Choice doesn’t liberate, it incarcerates.
    The thing is that there are cases where Apple App Store policies are not in line with customer interests.  I already gave the example of game streaming services.  If Apple don't change their policies, iOS / iPadOS customers will miss what could be the best possible way to play games in Apple devices, since Apple won't allow that kind of service.  The only option they will have is Apple Arcade, which at the moment, is terrible.  This is an example where choices is good for customers, and do not incarcerates, as you said.  
    Just because you think game streaming is a good idea, doesn’t mean it is. 

    Apple Arcade works well for us as I’m happy my daughter won’t be exposed to inappropriate content. How does conceding content control to 3rd party services improve that?
    It's good to know that your family enjoy Apple Arcade.  But it looks like most customers won't agree with you, considering Apple is already making big changes, even though is has been less than a year,

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/30/apple-arcade-has-shifted-to-focus-on-games-with-higher-engagement

    Could it be that GamePass / xCloud is a better idea that Apple Arcade?  I would think so.  But we'll never know, unless Apple change their policies.  Apple does a lot of things right, sometimes even better than MS.  But gaming is not one of them.
    That article relates to general service maturity no guarantee of streaming services.

    “Apple does a lot of things right, sometimes even better than MS.” - now I know our ideas of ‘good’ aren’t the same.
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