Chip shortages affecting Qualcomm's ability to produce Android processors

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  • Reply 21 of 56
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.
    edited March 2021
  • Reply 22 of 56
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.
    Full of lies, distortion, and fake news. 
    GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 23 of 56
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.
    Full of lies, distortion, and fake news. 
    Sure. /s

    Funny how much disinformation is shared on open platforms in the West, especially by China's diplomats, that are banned or censored in China. 

    https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/how-chinas-wolf-warrior-diplomats-use-and-abuse-twitter/

    "A little more than a year ago, China had almost no diplomatic presence on Twitter. A handful of accounts, many representing far-flung diplomatic outposts, operated without apparent coordination or direction from Beijing. Today, the work of Chinese diplomats on Twitter looks very different: More than 170 of them bicker with Western powers, promote conspiracies about the coronavirus, and troll Americans on issues of raceThe quadrupling in the past year and a half of China’s diplomatic presence on a site blocked within China suggests that turning to Western platforms to influence the information environment beyond China’s borders is no longer an afterthought but a priority.

    You have been a part of that disinformation campaign, but I doubt that you have diplomatic credentials, so it must be the United Front Work Party that you represent.

    Literally, no one in our government believes that China's rise is benign, and 90 percent of American's want a tough stance on China;

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/03/04/most-americans-support-tough-stance-toward-china-on-human-rights-economic-issues/

    "Most Americans Support Tough Stance Toward China on Human Rights, Economic Issues"

    https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/2530733/erosion-of-us-strength-in-indo-pacific-is-dangerous-to-all-commander-says/

    edited March 2021
  • Reply 24 of 56
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
  • Reply 25 of 56
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.
    Full of lies, distortion, and fake news. 
    Sure. /s

    Funny how much disinformation is shared on open platforms in the West, especially by China's diplomats, that are banned or censored in China. 

    https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/how-chinas-wolf-warrior-diplomats-use-and-abuse-twitter/

    "A little more than a year ago, China had almost no diplomatic presence on Twitter. A handful of accounts, many representing far-flung diplomatic outposts, operated without apparent coordination or direction from Beijing. Today, the work of Chinese diplomats on Twitter looks very different: More than 170 of them bicker with Western powers, promote conspiracies about the coronavirus, and troll Americans on issues of raceThe quadrupling in the past year and a half of China’s diplomatic presence on a site blocked within China suggests that turning to Western platforms to influence the information environment beyond China’s borders is no longer an afterthought but a priority.

    You have been a part of that disinformation campaign, but I doubt that you have diplomatic credentials, so it must be the United Front Work Party that you represent.

    Literally, no one in our government believes that China's rise is benign, and 90 percent of American's want a tough stance on China;

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/03/04/most-americans-support-tough-stance-toward-china-on-human-rights-economic-issues/

    "Most Americans Support Tough Stance Toward China on Human Rights, Economic Issues"

    https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/2530733/erosion-of-us-strength-in-indo-pacific-is-dangerous-to-all-commander-says/


    Yeh, China is finally responding to the U.S. propaganda campaign.
    Why does that bother you?  
    ...  You want them to roll over and play dead to U.S. attacks?  You want them to play the helpless victim of U.S. bullying?
    .........They did that.   They stopped that.  Now it's time for the U.S. to stop and return to reality.
  • Reply 26 of 56
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html

    edited March 2021 techconc
  • Reply 27 of 56
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
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    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.
    Full of lies, distortion, and fake news. 
    Sure. /s

    Funny how much disinformation is shared on open platforms in the West, especially by China's diplomats, that are banned or censored in China. 

    https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/how-chinas-wolf-warrior-diplomats-use-and-abuse-twitter/

    "A little more than a year ago, China had almost no diplomatic presence on Twitter. A handful of accounts, many representing far-flung diplomatic outposts, operated without apparent coordination or direction from Beijing. Today, the work of Chinese diplomats on Twitter looks very different: More than 170 of them bicker with Western powers, promote conspiracies about the coronavirus, and troll Americans on issues of raceThe quadrupling in the past year and a half of China’s diplomatic presence on a site blocked within China suggests that turning to Western platforms to influence the information environment beyond China’s borders is no longer an afterthought but a priority.

    You have been a part of that disinformation campaign, but I doubt that you have diplomatic credentials, so it must be the United Front Work Party that you represent.

    Literally, no one in our government believes that China's rise is benign, and 90 percent of American's want a tough stance on China;

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/03/04/most-americans-support-tough-stance-toward-china-on-human-rights-economic-issues/

    "Most Americans Support Tough Stance Toward China on Human Rights, Economic Issues"

    https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/2530733/erosion-of-us-strength-in-indo-pacific-is-dangerous-to-all-commander-says/

    Xi Jinping did not declare himself President for Life. This is a shameless lie. 
    GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 28 of 56
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    edited March 2021 avon b7
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    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
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    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    Because he is trying the old tactic of lying a thousand times in hopes it becomes truth. 
    edited March 2021 GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 30 of 56
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.
    Full of lies, distortion, and fake news. 
    Sure. /s

    Funny how much disinformation is shared on open platforms in the West, especially by China's diplomats, that are banned or censored in China. 

    https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/how-chinas-wolf-warrior-diplomats-use-and-abuse-twitter/

    "A little more than a year ago, China had almost no diplomatic presence on Twitter. A handful of accounts, many representing far-flung diplomatic outposts, operated without apparent coordination or direction from Beijing. Today, the work of Chinese diplomats on Twitter looks very different: More than 170 of them bicker with Western powers, promote conspiracies about the coronavirus, and troll Americans on issues of raceThe quadrupling in the past year and a half of China’s diplomatic presence on a site blocked within China suggests that turning to Western platforms to influence the information environment beyond China’s borders is no longer an afterthought but a priority.

    You have been a part of that disinformation campaign, but I doubt that you have diplomatic credentials, so it must be the United Front Work Party that you represent.

    Literally, no one in our government believes that China's rise is benign, and 90 percent of American's want a tough stance on China;

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/03/04/most-americans-support-tough-stance-toward-china-on-human-rights-economic-issues/

    "Most Americans Support Tough Stance Toward China on Human Rights, Economic Issues"

    https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/2530733/erosion-of-us-strength-in-indo-pacific-is-dangerous-to-all-commander-says/

    Xi Jinping did not declare himself President for Life. This is a shameless lie. 

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43361276

    China has approved the removal of the two-term limit on the presidency, effectively allowing Xi Jinping to remain in power for life.

    The constitutional changes were passed by the annual sitting of parliament, the National People's Congress.

    The vote was widely regarded as a rubber-stamping exercise. Two delegates voted against the change and three abstained, out of 2,964 votes.

    China had imposed a two-term limit on its president since the 1990s.

    But Mr Xi, who would have been due to step down in 2023, defied the tradition of presenting a potential successor during October's Communist Party Congress.

    Instead, he consolidated his political power as the party voted to enshrine his name and political ideology in the party's constitution - elevating his status to the level of its founder, Chairman Mao.

    On paper, the congress is the most powerful legislative body in China - similar to the parliament in other nations. But it was widely believed that it would approve what it was told to."


    So he didn't "declare himself" President for Life, Xi just made it happen.


    techconc
  • Reply 31 of 56
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
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    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.
    Full of lies, distortion, and fake news. 
    Sure. /s

    Funny how much disinformation is shared on open platforms in the West, especially by China's diplomats, that are banned or censored in China. 

    https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/how-chinas-wolf-warrior-diplomats-use-and-abuse-twitter/

    "A little more than a year ago, China had almost no diplomatic presence on Twitter. A handful of accounts, many representing far-flung diplomatic outposts, operated without apparent coordination or direction from Beijing. Today, the work of Chinese diplomats on Twitter looks very different: More than 170 of them bicker with Western powers, promote conspiracies about the coronavirus, and troll Americans on issues of raceThe quadrupling in the past year and a half of China’s diplomatic presence on a site blocked within China suggests that turning to Western platforms to influence the information environment beyond China’s borders is no longer an afterthought but a priority.

    You have been a part of that disinformation campaign, but I doubt that you have diplomatic credentials, so it must be the United Front Work Party that you represent.

    Literally, no one in our government believes that China's rise is benign, and 90 percent of American's want a tough stance on China;

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/03/04/most-americans-support-tough-stance-toward-china-on-human-rights-economic-issues/

    "Most Americans Support Tough Stance Toward China on Human Rights, Economic Issues"

    https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/2530733/erosion-of-us-strength-in-indo-pacific-is-dangerous-to-all-commander-says/

    Xi Jinping did not declare himself President for Life. This is a shameless lie. 

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43361276

    China has approved the removal of the two-term limit on the presidency, effectively allowing Xi Jinping to remain in power for life.

    The constitutional changes were passed by the annual sitting of parliament, the National People's Congress.

    The vote was widely regarded as a rubber-stamping exercise. Two delegates voted against the change and three abstained, out of 2,964 votes.

    China had imposed a two-term limit on its president since the 1990s.

    But Mr Xi, who would have been due to step down in 2023, defied the tradition of presenting a potential successor during October's Communist Party Congress.

    Instead, he consolidated his political power as the party voted to enshrine his name and political ideology in the party's constitution - elevating his status to the level of its founder, Chairman Mao.

    On paper, the congress is the most powerful legislative body in China - similar to the parliament in other nations. But it was widely believed that it would approve what it was told to."


    So he didn't "declare himself" President for Life, Xi just made it happen.


    This is a distortion of facts by China haters. You failed to prove your words. 
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  • Reply 32 of 56
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member

    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    Because he is trying the old tactic of lying a thousand times in hopes it becomes truth. 
    You seem unable to comprehend that I am in fact concerned about "poverty, drug addiction, racism, facism, misogyny and xenophobia", but I'm also concerned about threats to my freedom from authoritarians, and that is absolutely what the PRC and CCP (or CPC) is. That's why I was ecstatic about a Biden Presidency. You are not supportive of Biden, nor were you for Trump. Seems odd.

    Maybe you are ethnic Han, or maybe related to ethnic Han, for all I know, but I will continue resisting the authoritarianism that the PRC represents, and that isn't xenophobia.

    https://www.aspi.org.au/report/trigger-warning

    Trigger warning. The CCP’s coordinated information effort to discredit the BBC


    Can't figure out why you defend the PRC and CCP.
    edited March 2021
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    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
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    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    Because he is trying the old tactic of lying a thousand times in hopes it becomes truth. 
    You seem unable to comprehend that I am in fact concerned about "poverty, drug addiction, racism, facism, misogyny and xenophobia", but I'm also concerned about threats to my freedom from authoritarians, and that is absolutely what the PRC and CCP (or CPC) is. That's why I was ecstatic about a Biden Presidency. You are not supportive of Biden, nor were you for Trump. Seems odd.

    Maybe you are ethnic Han, or maybe related to ethnic Han, for all I know, but I will continue resisting the authoritarianism that the PRC represents, and that isn't xenophobia.

    https://www.aspi.org.au/report/trigger-warning

    Trigger warning. The CCP’s coordinated information effort to discredit the BBC


    Can't figure out why you defend the PRC and CCP.
    You said Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. Do you know English writing? Do you know logic? You have not provided a link to prove your lie. 
    GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 34 of 56
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:

    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
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    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    Because he is trying the old tactic of lying a thousand times in hopes it becomes truth. 
    You seem unable to comprehend that I am in fact concerned about "poverty, drug addiction, racism, facism, misogyny and xenophobia", but I'm also concerned about threats to my freedom from authoritarians, and that is absolutely what the PRC and CCP (or CPC) is. That's why I was ecstatic about a Biden Presidency. You are not supportive of Biden, nor were you for Trump. Seems odd.

    Maybe you are ethnic Han, or maybe related to ethnic Han, for all I know, but I will continue resisting the authoritarianism that the PRC represents, and that isn't xenophobia.

    https://www.aspi.org.au/report/trigger-warning

    Trigger warning. The CCP’s coordinated information effort to discredit the BBC


    Can't figure out why you defend the PRC and CCP.
    You said Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. Do you know English writing? Do you know logic? You have not provided a link to prove your lie. 
    You haven't provided a link that he didn't make that happen, and Xi is in effect, not term limited, so from the standpoint of any outside observer, he is defacto, President for Life, or at least until he decides to retire.
    edited March 2021
  • Reply 35 of 56
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    tmay said:
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    tmay said:

    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
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    tmay said:
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    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    Because he is trying the old tactic of lying a thousand times in hopes it becomes truth. 
    You seem unable to comprehend that I am in fact concerned about "poverty, drug addiction, racism, facism, misogyny and xenophobia", but I'm also concerned about threats to my freedom from authoritarians, and that is absolutely what the PRC and CCP (or CPC) is. That's why I was ecstatic about a Biden Presidency. You are not supportive of Biden, nor were you for Trump. Seems odd.

    Maybe you are ethnic Han, or maybe related to ethnic Han, for all I know, but I will continue resisting the authoritarianism that the PRC represents, and that isn't xenophobia.

    https://www.aspi.org.au/report/trigger-warning

    Trigger warning. The CCP’s coordinated information effort to discredit the BBC


    Can't figure out why you defend the PRC and CCP.
    You said Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. Do you know English writing? Do you know logic? You have not provided a link to prove your lie. 
    You haven't provided a link that he didn't make that happen, and Xi is in effect, not term limited, so from the standpoint of any outside observer, he is defacto, President for Life, or at least until he decides to retire.
    Why do i need to provide a link for words Xi never declared by himself? You use distortion tactic to derive a lie. Then use the lie to derive numerous points. 
    GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 36 of 56
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
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    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    Because he is trying the old tactic of lying a thousand times in hopes it becomes truth. 
    You seem unable to comprehend that I am in fact concerned about "poverty, drug addiction, racism, facism, misogyny and xenophobia", but I'm also concerned about threats to my freedom from authoritarians, and that is absolutely what the PRC and CCP (or CPC) is. That's why I was ecstatic about a Biden Presidency. You are not supportive of Biden, nor were you for Trump. Seems odd.

    Maybe you are ethnic Han, or maybe related to ethnic Han, for all I know, but I will continue resisting the authoritarianism that the PRC represents, and that isn't xenophobia.

    https://www.aspi.org.au/report/trigger-warning

    Trigger warning. The CCP’s coordinated information effort to discredit the BBC


    Can't figure out why you defend the PRC and CCP.
    You said Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. Do you know English writing? Do you know logic? You have not provided a link to prove your lie. 
    You haven't provided a link that he didn't make that happen, and Xi is in effect, not term limited, so from the standpoint of any outside observer, he is defacto, President for Life, or at least until he decides to retire.
    Why do i need to provide a link for words Xi never declared by himself? You use distortion tactic to derive a lie. Then use the lie to derive numerous points. 
    Ah, parsing words is your strategy, again.

    So does Xi, or does Xi not, have term limits? If he doesn't have term limits, then he is President for as long as he feels like it, and hence could decide to be President for life, ie, until his death.


  • Reply 37 of 56
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    tmay said:
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    tmay said:
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    tmay said:

    tzeshan said:
    tmay said:
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    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    Because he is trying the old tactic of lying a thousand times in hopes it becomes truth. 
    You seem unable to comprehend that I am in fact concerned about "poverty, drug addiction, racism, facism, misogyny and xenophobia", but I'm also concerned about threats to my freedom from authoritarians, and that is absolutely what the PRC and CCP (or CPC) is. That's why I was ecstatic about a Biden Presidency. You are not supportive of Biden, nor were you for Trump. Seems odd.

    Maybe you are ethnic Han, or maybe related to ethnic Han, for all I know, but I will continue resisting the authoritarianism that the PRC represents, and that isn't xenophobia.

    https://www.aspi.org.au/report/trigger-warning

    Trigger warning. The CCP’s coordinated information effort to discredit the BBC


    Can't figure out why you defend the PRC and CCP.
    You said Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. Do you know English writing? Do you know logic? You have not provided a link to prove your lie. 
    You haven't provided a link that he didn't make that happen, and Xi is in effect, not term limited, so from the standpoint of any outside observer, he is defacto, President for Life, or at least until he decides to retire.
    Why do i need to provide a link for words Xi never declared by himself? You use distortion tactic to derive a lie. Then use the lie to derive numerous points. 
    Ah, parsing words is your strategy, again.

    So does Xi, or does Xi not, have term limits? If he doesn't have term limits, then he is President for as long as he feels like it, and hence could decide to be President for life, ie, until his death.


    You cannot say Xi declared himself President for Life. It is a false logic. 
    GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 38 of 56
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
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    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    Because he is trying the old tactic of lying a thousand times in hopes it becomes truth. 
    You seem unable to comprehend that I am in fact concerned about "poverty, drug addiction, racism, facism, misogyny and xenophobia", but I'm also concerned about threats to my freedom from authoritarians, and that is absolutely what the PRC and CCP (or CPC) is. That's why I was ecstatic about a Biden Presidency. You are not supportive of Biden, nor were you for Trump. Seems odd.

    Maybe you are ethnic Han, or maybe related to ethnic Han, for all I know, but I will continue resisting the authoritarianism that the PRC represents, and that isn't xenophobia.

    https://www.aspi.org.au/report/trigger-warning

    Trigger warning. The CCP’s coordinated information effort to discredit the BBC


    Can't figure out why you defend the PRC and CCP.
    You said Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. Do you know English writing? Do you know logic? You have not provided a link to prove your lie. 
    You haven't provided a link that he didn't make that happen, and Xi is in effect, not term limited, so from the standpoint of any outside observer, he is defacto, President for Life, or at least until he decides to retire.
    Why do i need to provide a link for words Xi never declared by himself? You use distortion tactic to derive a lie. Then use the lie to derive numerous points. 
    Ah, parsing words is your strategy, again.

    So does Xi, or does Xi not, have term limits? If he doesn't have term limits, then he is President for as long as he feels like it, and hence could decide to be President for life, ie, until his death.


    You cannot say Xi declared himself President for Life. It is a false logic. 
    Is President Xi term limited? No.

    Hence logic states that Xi could in fact become President for Life. We will only know that it the future. 
  • Reply 39 of 56
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    tmay said:
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    tmay said:
    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    Because he is trying the old tactic of lying a thousand times in hopes it becomes truth. 
    You seem unable to comprehend that I am in fact concerned about "poverty, drug addiction, racism, facism, misogyny and xenophobia", but I'm also concerned about threats to my freedom from authoritarians, and that is absolutely what the PRC and CCP (or CPC) is. That's why I was ecstatic about a Biden Presidency. You are not supportive of Biden, nor were you for Trump. Seems odd.

    Maybe you are ethnic Han, or maybe related to ethnic Han, for all I know, but I will continue resisting the authoritarianism that the PRC represents, and that isn't xenophobia.

    https://www.aspi.org.au/report/trigger-warning

    Trigger warning. The CCP’s coordinated information effort to discredit the BBC


    Can't figure out why you defend the PRC and CCP.
    You said Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. Do you know English writing? Do you know logic? You have not provided a link to prove your lie. 
    You haven't provided a link that he didn't make that happen, and Xi is in effect, not term limited, so from the standpoint of any outside observer, he is defacto, President for Life, or at least until he decides to retire.
    Why do i need to provide a link for words Xi never declared by himself? You use distortion tactic to derive a lie. Then use the lie to derive numerous points. 
    Ah, parsing words is your strategy, again.

    So does Xi, or does Xi not, have term limits? If he doesn't have term limits, then he is President for as long as he feels like it, and hence could decide to be President for life, ie, until his death.


    You cannot say Xi declared himself President for Life. It is a false logic. 
    Is President Xi term limited? No.

    Hence logic states that Xi could in fact become President for Life. We will only know that it the future. 
    No, not necessary. I think according to previous rules Xi is supposed to name his successor in 2018. His term will complete by 2023. Xi told a committee he will not name it at that time. The committee agreed. He still can do this anytime before 2023. So what he did is not name a successor in 2018. I think he dit it due to Trump declared a trade war with China. The is a grave external threat to China. This threat has been removed by American people. So I think things can change if US-China relation can become better under Biden.
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    Qualcomm is reportedly struggling to meet demand for processor silicon used in Android devices as a global chip shortage spreads across the electronics industry.

    Credit Qualcomm
    Credit: Qualcomm


    Demand for Qualcomm chips have soared in 2021 as Android makers close in on market share left by Huawei in the wake of U.S. sanctions. However, Qualcomm is finding it hard to meet the demand, partly because of a shortage of subcomponents used in its application processors.

    Because of that, Samsung is currently experiencing a shortage of Snapdragon chips, according to Reuters. That could impact production of mid- and low-end Samsung models, though another source said there was also supply concerns surrounding Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor.

    A senior executive at a top contract manufacturer for several major smartphone brands told Reuters it is also facing shortages of critical components from Qualcomm, and could cut handset shipments in 2021.

    The global processor shortage has been ongoing for several months. It first hit the automotive industry and has now spread to the consumer electronics market. In February, Xiaomi vice president Lu Weibing said that the situation is "not a shortage, it's an extreme shortage."

    Back in February, President Joe Biden took steps to boost the U.S. manufacturing of silicon to strengthen the international supply chain and mitigate the global shortages.

    For the most part, the supply situation is only affected Qualcomm's older processor technologies because it's currently directing resources toward newer silicon options. The shortage is also driving up the price of specific chip components.

    At this point, Qualcomm's supply troubles will likely have little effect on Apple. Although the Cupertino tech giant uses Qualcomm modems in its iPhone lineup, it designs and develops its own A-series chips that are produced by third-party contract manufacturer TSMC.

    Stay on top of the latest Apple news right from your HomePod. Say, "Hey, Siri, play AppleInsider," and you'll get latest AppleInsider Podcast. Or ask your HomePod mini for "AppleInsider Daily" instead and you'll hear a quick update direct from our news team. And, if you're interested in Apple-centric home automation, say "Hey, Siri, play HomeKit Insider," and you'll be listening to our newest specialized podcast in moments.

    The answer is simple:   End the silly, hateful, vindictive trade war with China cleverly disguised as "National Security".

    You can't shutter chip factories and limit production in other less direct ways -- and THEN whine about lack of production!
    ....  That's silly and childish.
    China has yet another problem;

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/12/ioc-under-fire-after-dismissing-claims-of-genocide-against-uighurs-in-china

    I can see a Winter Olympics boycott on the horizon...yet you still ignore what is happening to the Uighurs, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Fortunately, the rest of the world is not.


    Genocide is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnicnationalracial, or religious group—in whole or in part. A term coined by Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,[1][2] the hybrid word geno-cide is a combination of the Greek word γένος (genos, "race, people") and the Latinsuffix -caedo ("act of killing").[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    And
    Ethnic groups in Xinjiang
    根据2015年底人口抽查统计 [189]
    NationalityPopulationPercentage
    Uyghur11,303,30046.42%
    Han8,611,00038.99%
    Kazakh1,591,2007.02%
    Hui1,015,8004.54%
    Kirghiz202,2000.88%
    Mongols180,6000.83%
    Tajiks50,1000.21%
    Xibe43,2000.20%
    Manchu27,5150.11%
    Tujia15,7870.086%
    Uzbek18,7690.066%
    Russian11,8000.048%
    Miao7,0060.038%
    Tibetan6,1530.033%
    Zhuang5,6420.031%
    Tatar5,1830.024%
    Salar3,7620.020%
    Other129,1900.600%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Vital_statistics


    Yeh, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that somebody is running a (mostly) baseless smear campaign when they have to introduce hyperbole into to the argument.  Especially if they have to redefine words to suck off of their normal meaning.  People who have legitimate arguments don't have to resort to such childish tactics.

    But, as I said, those that do use such tactics expose their argument as baseless.

    As for an Olympic Boycott:  that would be more justified against the U.S. where we have militarized police executing (or is it committing "genocide" against?) innocent black people?
    What I think doesn't matter in the big picture, and I don't determine policy;

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-xinjiang/u-s-says-no-change-in-its-genocide-determination-for-chinas-xinjiang-idUSKBN2B12LG

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has not seen any developments that would change its determination that China committed genocide and crimes against humanity in its treatment of Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang, State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Tuesday.

    “We have seen nothing that would change our assessment,” Price said. The Biden administration has endorsed a last-minute determination by the Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang. Beijing denies the charges."

    Neither you not tzeshan have been able to produce any information denying that it happened, which is par for the course, but given that the PRC will not allow any independent investigation, this is all on the PRC, not the U.S.

    US-China relation is the most difficult part of US foreign policy. It originated from the conflict between western culture which emphasizes total freedom and love and Chinese culture which emphasizes facts and regulation. History doesn't lie. US Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1880 when there was no communism or CCP. Some Americans have tried to change this. But the election of Trump proved that this culture is firmly planted in other Americans. China has tried hard to rebuild the country without invading other nations instead by hard working to produce goods for other nations. Apple succeeded by working with China to become the most valuable company in the world. But some China haters and Apple haters try to break this relationship. 

    Don't give these idiots so much credit.
    The root of the current batch of "I hate China" stems from the fact that they will soon over take us as the world's leading economy.
    That is not only humiliating to these so called patriots but, aside from the financial and economic manifestations, it puts the lie to their contention that Democracy and Free Market capitalism is inherently superior to autocracy and socialism.
    (Here's a hint:  wise, caring leadership counts for a lot more than any ideology.)

    You might enjoy this piece from Bill Maher on "Clown and Country"


    We have wise, caring, leadership today in the U.S., and every adult that wants it will have vaccine access by May 1, and the U.S. hasn't had to rely on cutting corners as the SinoVac from China has. China will be far behind the U.S., and is attempting to use its vaccine to leverage diplomacy. But, hey, Maher has his own show, and can do what he wants.

    Bill Maher barely acknowledges human rights violations in Xinjiang, but John Oliver certainly does;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8

    So, your attempt to "bury the lede" on human rights violations in China, by posting a screed by Bill Maher on comparative economies fails. You probably aren't even cognizant to the fact that the U.S., at a quarter the size of China, is still the leading economy, and will be through the end of the decade. China, for all of its massive construction will also find out that "what you strive to attain, you must also maintain", a huge cost that every country bears for its existing infrastructure.

    I gave up watching Bill Maher when I gave up cable and HBO, near twenty years ago. He isn't anything but provocative.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/new-chart-shows-china-gdp-could-overtake-us-sooner-as-covid-took-its-toll.html

    "“This (divergence in growth) is consistent with our view that the pandemic has been a much larger blow to the US economy than China’s economy,” Rob Subbaraman of Nomura said in an email Friday. “We believe that on reasonable growth projections the size of China’s economy in USD terms will overtake the US in 2028.”

    On the other hand, the U.S. and the West's plan for sourcing outside of China will likely delay that date, but I can state as a fact that the U.S. economy is going to grow at a very fast rate in Q3 and Q4 of this year, due to vaccinations.  

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/10percent-gdp-growth-the-us-economy-is-on-fire-and-is-about-to-get-stoked-even-more.html


    This is what your China hatred buys:  A former trading partner aligning themselves with a known enemy who has attacked out country multiple times (after we tried to entice one of their former allies over to our side).
    That's dumb.   Really, really dumb.

    So now:   Russia isn't going to take our shit anymore -- and neither is China.
    But go ahead and keep backing Trump's cold war.
    ... But maybe if we build more ICBMs and aircraft carriers -- or up the trash talk -- they will come over to our side.   /s
    ST PETERSBURG RUSSIA - JUNE 6 2019 Chinas Persident Xi Jinping L and Russias President Vladimir Putin shake hands at a ceremony at St Petersburg University in which Xi Jinping was awarded St Petersburg University honorary doctoral degree


    • Russia and China’s space agencies signed an agreement this week to create an International Scientific Lunar Station.
    • Russia also apparently rebuked NASA’s invitation to join the Artemis project that aims to put people back on the moon by 2024.
    • That follows a quarter of century of U.S.-Russian space cooperation, launched by those who dreamed of post-Cold War reconciliation.
    • Russia’s growing strategic bond with China is the latest evidence the Western approach to Moscow has failed to produce the desired results.

    Okay...from your mouth to God's ear.

    LOL!

    Before you attack an enemy you should probably make sure that they are an enemy.  If not, they will be.
    I'm certain that China decided to challenge the rules of order established after WWII when Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. With that, and China's erasure of democracy in Hong Kong, prematurely based on the agreement with the UK, and constant threats against its neighbors, it is pretty obvious that China's authoritarianism is a threat to democracies around the world. That makes them a potential enemy, and for National Security reasons, we have to treat them as that. Of course, China would see us as a threat, given our history during and after WWII as the world's greatest superpower and democracy.

    Interestingly enough, the Quad (U.S., Japan, Australia, and India) just met to discuss many concerns centered on China, especially China's military buildup in the Indo-Pacific. I'm thinking, India becomes the go to for sourcing as China's manufacturing for the world deflates. That's a problem that China created, not the U.S.

    You don't follow anything about National Security, so of course you will side with China, a flawed assessment.

    Personally, I would rather see India benefit from sourcing to the West vs China, so we'll see how that works out.

    Still waiting for some evidence that China is an enemy of the U.S.
    I get it that you hate them.   But that doesn't count.
    Keep waiting. It's not my job to educate you, and for the record, I don't hate the Chinese. I "hate" China's authoritarian government and what they are doing in the world.


    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global#

    "China’s government sees human rights as an existential threat. Its reaction could pose an existential threat to the rights of people worldwide.

    At home, the Chinese Communist Party, worried that permitting political freedom would jeopardize its grasp on power, has constructed an Orwellian high-tech surveillance state and a sophisticated internet censorship system to monitor and suppress public criticism. Abroad, it uses its growing economic clout to silence critics and to carry out the most intense attack on the global system for enforcing human rights since that system began to emerge in the mid-20th century.

    Beijing was long focused on building a “Great Firewall” to prevent the people of China from being exposed to any criticism of the government from abroad. Now the government is increasingly attacking the critics themselves, whether they represent a foreign government, are part of an overseas company or university, or join real or virtual avenues of public protest."


    Oh, I did find a good link to China being a threat to the U.S.:

    https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2021/03/11/us_territories_the_frontlines_of_global_competition_with_china_767683.html


    If that were actually true, then you wouldn't be spending every waking moment looking for ways to justify your hate.  And, you would be concerned about the poverty, drug addiction, racism, fascism, bigotry, misogyny and xenophobia that has become so rampant in this country instead of directing all your energy at hating others.
    Because he is trying the old tactic of lying a thousand times in hopes it becomes truth. 
    You seem unable to comprehend that I am in fact concerned about "poverty, drug addiction, racism, facism, misogyny and xenophobia", but I'm also concerned about threats to my freedom from authoritarians, and that is absolutely what the PRC and CCP (or CPC) is. That's why I was ecstatic about a Biden Presidency. You are not supportive of Biden, nor were you for Trump. Seems odd.

    Maybe you are ethnic Han, or maybe related to ethnic Han, for all I know, but I will continue resisting the authoritarianism that the PRC represents, and that isn't xenophobia.

    https://www.aspi.org.au/report/trigger-warning

    Trigger warning. The CCP’s coordinated information effort to discredit the BBC


    Can't figure out why you defend the PRC and CCP.
    You said Xi Jinping declared himself President for Life. Do you know English writing? Do you know logic? You have not provided a link to prove your lie. 
    You haven't provided a link that he didn't make that happen, and Xi is in effect, not term limited, so from the standpoint of any outside observer, he is defacto, President for Life, or at least until he decides to retire.
    Why do i need to provide a link for words Xi never declared by himself? You use distortion tactic to derive a lie. Then use the lie to derive numerous points. 
    Ah, parsing words is your strategy, again.

    So does Xi, or does Xi not, have term limits? If he doesn't have term limits, then he is President for as long as he feels like it, and hence could decide to be President for life, ie, until his death.


    You cannot say Xi declared himself President for Life. It is a false logic. 
    Is President Xi term limited? No.

    Hence logic states that Xi could in fact become President for Life. We will only know that it the future. 
    No, not necessary. I think according to previous rules Xi is supposed to name his successor in 2018. His term will complete by 2023. Xi told a committee he will not name it at that time. The committee agreed. He still can do this anytime before 2023. So what he did is not name a successor in 2018. I think he dit it due to Trump declared a trade war with China. The is a grave external threat to China. This threat has been removed by American people. So I think things can change if US-China relation can become better under Biden.
    With the exception of changes in tariffs, I don't expect the Biden Administration to alter all that much of existing policy in future trade talks, and Biden as well comes down solidly in support of National Security objectives to counter China's military expansionism. Human Rights is going to be front and center, and that is a problem for China.  
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