... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
US should concentrate in helping central and south American poor little countries first. MSM is afraid to report many candidates were murdered in Mexico recently. Democracy has internal problems US Congress don't know how to deal with it. The elite thinks rule of law will solve. But the lower class is trying to alter the laws to suit their needs. This is why US is so afraid of China resurrection. Congress knows US political system is in intrinsically weak.
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
US should concentrate in helping central and south American poor little countries first. MSM is afraid to report many candidates were murdered in Mexico recently. Democracy has internal problems US Congress don't know how to deal with it. The elite thinks rule of law will solve. But the lower class is trying to alter the laws to suit their needs. This is why US is so afraid of China resurrection. Congress knows US political system is in intrinsically weak.
The reason that the West is concerned about China is that it is a growing military threat in the Indo-Pacific, and there is plenty of evidence of that.
Please recall that it was the U.S. and Britain that were instrumental in containing and rolling back the Japanese Military expansion in China, South Asia, and the South Pacific during WWII. Then note that the PRC is preparing for a similar economic and military expansion in the Indo-Pacific and Africa, driven by a massive naval shipbuilding program, alongside naval militia's operating in the South China Sea.
"As we look at some of the aggressive behavior that we've witnessed from China in the Indo-Pacific, you know, I'm concerned about something that could happen that could spark a crisis, and I think ... we need the ability to be able to talk with both our allies and partners but also our adversaries, or potential adversaries."
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
US should concentrate in helping central and south American poor little countries first. MSM is afraid to report many candidates were murdered in Mexico recently. Democracy has internal problems US Congress don't know how to deal with it. The elite thinks rule of law will solve. But the lower class is trying to alter the laws to suit their needs. This is why US is so afraid of China resurrection. Congress knows US political system is in intrinsically weak.
The reason that the West is concerned about China is that it is a growing military threat in the Indo-Pacific, and there is plenty of evidence of that.
Please recall that it was the U.S. and Britain that were instrumental in containing and rolling back the Japanese Military expansion in China, South Asia, and the South Pacific during WWII. Then note that the PRC is preparing for a similar economic and military expansion in the Indo-Pacific and Africa, driven by a massive naval shipbuilding program, alongside naval militia's operating in the South China Sea.
"As we look at some of the aggressive behavior that we've witnessed from China in the Indo-Pacific, you know, I'm concerned about something that could happen that could spark a crisis, and I think ... we need the ability to be able to talk with both our allies and partners but also our adversaries, or potential adversaries."
You arbitrarily mixed economic expansion with military expansion. You know using economic expansion weakens your argument. On the other hand, you know military expansion is difficult to provide facts. The facts of the truth is in the last forty years Chinese workers produced lots of goods for poor nations in the world. These nations are grateful of China. This is why in WHA majority of them sided with China despite G7.
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
We should stop with the bluster, focus on actual enemies (the ones attacking us like the Russians and Right Wing Terrorists) and actually protect the people of this country and further its interests. Another cold war won't get us there.
Further:
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
Please provide a link to the source of the above; the context appears to be completely about U.S. defense of Taiwan in the event of invasion by the PRC. Taiwan is only part of the concern of the U.S. with the military expansionism of the PRC in the Indo-Pacific being primary.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
Please provide a link to the source of the above; the context appears to be completely about U.S. defense of Taiwan in the event of invasion by the PRC. Taiwan is only part of the concern of the U.S. with the military expansionism of the PRC in the Indo-Pacific being primary.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
So you think the U.S. could win an all out war with China because it might have a great bomber "that can reach anywhere in the world"? (Did you know we've had one of those since the 1950's?)
How stupid can you get?
... In all out war, we both lose. But mostly the U.S.
As the analyst said: The U.S. cannot allow Taiwan to wag the U.S. dog.
Nor can it let propaganda and ideology drive it into a war for which it has nothing to gain and everything to lose -- no matter how much you hate China.
"In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline."
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
Please provide a link to the source of the above; the context appears to be completely about U.S. defense of Taiwan in the event of invasion by the PRC. Taiwan is only part of the concern of the U.S. with the military expansionism of the PRC in the Indo-Pacific being primary.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
So you think the U.S. could win an all out war with China because it might have a great bomber "that can reach anywhere in the world"? (Did you know we've had one of those since the 1950's?)
How stupid can you get?
... In all out war, we both lose. But mostly the U.S.
As the analyst said: The U.S. cannot allow Taiwan to wag the U.S. dog.
Nor can it let propaganda and ideology drive it into a war for which it has nothing to gain and everything to lose -- no matter how much you hate China.
"In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline."
Did you miss the part where I asked for the link to your Quote?
Where's the quote you posted from?
Did you miss the part where my link noted that there was enough uncertainty in a Chinese attack on Taiwan that the U.S. et al, could make it too risky for China to attempt? Large scale amphibious landing would be needed, and the only nations with that experience are the UK, Canada, and the U.S., but specifically the U.S. Marine Corp still maintains that skillset. And crossing over 80 miles of water in a world of anti-ship missiles is not for the light hearted.
Still, no blood would be spilled if no attack happens.
Man up, you simpleton, and get me the link to your quote.
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
Please provide a link to the source of the above; the context appears to be completely about U.S. defense of Taiwan in the event of invasion by the PRC. Taiwan is only part of the concern of the U.S. with the military expansionism of the PRC in the Indo-Pacific being primary.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
So you think the U.S. could win an all out war with China because it might have a great bomber "that can reach anywhere in the world"? (Did you know we've had one of those since the 1950's?)
How stupid can you get?
... In all out war, we both lose. But mostly the U.S.
As the analyst said: The U.S. cannot allow Taiwan to wag the U.S. dog.
Nor can it let propaganda and ideology drive it into a war for which it has nothing to gain and everything to lose -- no matter how much you hate China.
"In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline."
Did you miss the part where I asked for the link to your Quote?
Where's the quote you posted from?
Did you miss the part where my link noted that there was enough uncertainty in a Chinese attack on Taiwan that the U.S. et al, could make it too risky for China to attempt? Large scale amphibious landing would be needed, and the only nations with that experience are the UK, Canada, and the U.S., but specifically the U.S. Marine Corp still maintains that skillset. And crossing over 80 miles of water in a world of anti-ship missiles is not for the light hearted.
Still, no blood would be spilled if no attack happens.
Man up, you simpleton, and get me the link to your quote.
If you don't want American blood shed to "free" Taiwan then we should stop provoking that war.
As the analyst said: Taiwan means little to the U.S. How many Americans do you think should die for it?
We lost what? 6,000 "freeing" Iraq. 50,000 freeing Vietnam. How many should die for Taiwan?
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
Please provide a link to the source of the above; the context appears to be completely about U.S. defense of Taiwan in the event of invasion by the PRC. Taiwan is only part of the concern of the U.S. with the military expansionism of the PRC in the Indo-Pacific being primary.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
So you think the U.S. could win an all out war with China because it might have a great bomber "that can reach anywhere in the world"? (Did you know we've had one of those since the 1950's?)
How stupid can you get?
... In all out war, we both lose. But mostly the U.S.
As the analyst said: The U.S. cannot allow Taiwan to wag the U.S. dog.
Nor can it let propaganda and ideology drive it into a war for which it has nothing to gain and everything to lose -- no matter how much you hate China.
"In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline."
Did you miss the part where I asked for the link to your Quote?
Where's the quote you posted from?
Did you miss the part where my link noted that there was enough uncertainty in a Chinese attack on Taiwan that the U.S. et al, could make it too risky for China to attempt? Large scale amphibious landing would be needed, and the only nations with that experience are the UK, Canada, and the U.S., but specifically the U.S. Marine Corp still maintains that skillset. And crossing over 80 miles of water in a world of anti-ship missiles is not for the light hearted.
Still, no blood would be spilled if no attack happens.
Man up, you simpleton, and get me the link to your quote.
If you don't want American blood shed to "free" Taiwan then we should stop provoking that war.
As the analyst said: Taiwan means little to the U.S. How many Americans do you think should die for it?
We lost what? 6,000 "freeing" Iraq. 50,000 freeing Vietnam. How many should die for Taiwan?
Taiwan is a democracy.
That's enough, and where's the fucking link to that analyst that I requested?
For the record, there is another U.S. Carrier legally navigating the South China Sea, the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan.
NATO is aligning against China as well; do you have a problem with that too?
A fresh and significant Covid outbreak is being reported in Southern China this morning, and new shipping delays are expected to be piled on top of the already backed-up port of Guangdong. Just when we think things are getting better.
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
Please provide a link to the source of the above; the context appears to be completely about U.S. defense of Taiwan in the event of invasion by the PRC. Taiwan is only part of the concern of the U.S. with the military expansionism of the PRC in the Indo-Pacific being primary.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
So you think the U.S. could win an all out war with China because it might have a great bomber "that can reach anywhere in the world"? (Did you know we've had one of those since the 1950's?)
How stupid can you get?
... In all out war, we both lose. But mostly the U.S.
As the analyst said: The U.S. cannot allow Taiwan to wag the U.S. dog.
Nor can it let propaganda and ideology drive it into a war for which it has nothing to gain and everything to lose -- no matter how much you hate China.
"In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline."
Did you miss the part where I asked for the link to your Quote?
Where's the quote you posted from?
Did you miss the part where my link noted that there was enough uncertainty in a Chinese attack on Taiwan that the U.S. et al, could make it too risky for China to attempt? Large scale amphibious landing would be needed, and the only nations with that experience are the UK, Canada, and the U.S., but specifically the U.S. Marine Corp still maintains that skillset. And crossing over 80 miles of water in a world of anti-ship missiles is not for the light hearted.
Still, no blood would be spilled if no attack happens.
Man up, you simpleton, and get me the link to your quote.
He's not giving you the link because it comes from a Chinese paper. I suspect much of what he says comes from Chinese sources, but it doesn't really matter. You are ascribing too much importance to his opinion. At least you know what he considers a reliable source and where his news comes from and that should be enough. Just let it go. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1222217.shtml
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
Please provide a link to the source of the above; the context appears to be completely about U.S. defense of Taiwan in the event of invasion by the PRC. Taiwan is only part of the concern of the U.S. with the military expansionism of the PRC in the Indo-Pacific being primary.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
So you think the U.S. could win an all out war with China because it might have a great bomber "that can reach anywhere in the world"? (Did you know we've had one of those since the 1950's?)
How stupid can you get?
... In all out war, we both lose. But mostly the U.S.
As the analyst said: The U.S. cannot allow Taiwan to wag the U.S. dog.
Nor can it let propaganda and ideology drive it into a war for which it has nothing to gain and everything to lose -- no matter how much you hate China.
"In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline."
Did you miss the part where I asked for the link to your Quote?
Where's the quote you posted from?
Did you miss the part where my link noted that there was enough uncertainty in a Chinese attack on Taiwan that the U.S. et al, could make it too risky for China to attempt? Large scale amphibious landing would be needed, and the only nations with that experience are the UK, Canada, and the U.S., but specifically the U.S. Marine Corp still maintains that skillset. And crossing over 80 miles of water in a world of anti-ship missiles is not for the light hearted.
Still, no blood would be spilled if no attack happens.
Man up, you simpleton, and get me the link to your quote.
He's not giving you the link because it comes from a Chinese paper. I suspect much of what he says comes from Chinese sources, but it doesn't really matter. You are ascribing too much importance to his opinion. At least you know what he considers a reliable source and where his news comes from and that should be enough. Just let it go. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1222217.shtml
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
Please provide a link to the source of the above; the context appears to be completely about U.S. defense of Taiwan in the event of invasion by the PRC. Taiwan is only part of the concern of the U.S. with the military expansionism of the PRC in the Indo-Pacific being primary.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
So you think the U.S. could win an all out war with China because it might have a great bomber "that can reach anywhere in the world"? (Did you know we've had one of those since the 1950's?)
How stupid can you get?
... In all out war, we both lose. But mostly the U.S.
As the analyst said: The U.S. cannot allow Taiwan to wag the U.S. dog.
Nor can it let propaganda and ideology drive it into a war for which it has nothing to gain and everything to lose -- no matter how much you hate China.
"In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline."
Did you miss the part where I asked for the link to your Quote?
Where's the quote you posted from?
Did you miss the part where my link noted that there was enough uncertainty in a Chinese attack on Taiwan that the U.S. et al, could make it too risky for China to attempt? Large scale amphibious landing would be needed, and the only nations with that experience are the UK, Canada, and the U.S., but specifically the U.S. Marine Corp still maintains that skillset. And crossing over 80 miles of water in a world of anti-ship missiles is not for the light hearted.
Still, no blood would be spilled if no attack happens.
Man up, you simpleton, and get me the link to your quote.
If you don't want American blood shed to "free" Taiwan then we should stop provoking that war.
As the analyst said: Taiwan means little to the U.S. How many Americans do you think should die for it?
We lost what? 6,000 "freeing" Iraq. 50,000 freeing Vietnam. How many should die for Taiwan?
Taiwan is a democracy.
That's enough, and where's the fucking link to that analyst that I requested?
For the record, there is another U.S. Carrier legally navigating the South China Sea, the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan.
NATO is aligning against China as well; do you have a problem with that too?
Why do you think democracy is so great? In US people are killing people daily. And the government don't know how to stop the killings? Is this why you think American lives are so cheap that US can afford to lose American lives fighting for Taiwan democracy?
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
Please provide a link to the source of the above; the context appears to be completely about U.S. defense of Taiwan in the event of invasion by the PRC. Taiwan is only part of the concern of the U.S. with the military expansionism of the PRC in the Indo-Pacific being primary.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
So you think the U.S. could win an all out war with China because it might have a great bomber "that can reach anywhere in the world"? (Did you know we've had one of those since the 1950's?)
How stupid can you get?
... In all out war, we both lose. But mostly the U.S.
As the analyst said: The U.S. cannot allow Taiwan to wag the U.S. dog.
Nor can it let propaganda and ideology drive it into a war for which it has nothing to gain and everything to lose -- no matter how much you hate China.
"In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline."
Did you miss the part where I asked for the link to your Quote?
Where's the quote you posted from?
Did you miss the part where my link noted that there was enough uncertainty in a Chinese attack on Taiwan that the U.S. et al, could make it too risky for China to attempt? Large scale amphibious landing would be needed, and the only nations with that experience are the UK, Canada, and the U.S., but specifically the U.S. Marine Corp still maintains that skillset. And crossing over 80 miles of water in a world of anti-ship missiles is not for the light hearted.
Still, no blood would be spilled if no attack happens.
Man up, you simpleton, and get me the link to your quote.
If you don't want American blood shed to "free" Taiwan then we should stop provoking that war.
As the analyst said: Taiwan means little to the U.S. How many Americans do you think should die for it?
We lost what? 6,000 "freeing" Iraq. 50,000 freeing Vietnam. How many should die for Taiwan?
Taiwan is a democracy.
That's enough, and where's the fucking link to that analyst that I requested?
For the record, there is another U.S. Carrier legally navigating the South China Sea, the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan.
NATO is aligning against China as well; do you have a problem with that too?
Why do you think democracy is so great? In US people are killing people daily. And the government don't know how to stop the killings? Is this why you think American lives are so cheap that US can afford to lose American lives fighting for Taiwan democracy?
No, they just ignore the inconvenient, embarrassing parts.
In the end both Communism and Capitalistic Democracy both have good points and bad points.
Much depends on the actual leadership. Prior to Biden, China clearly had the better, more ethical and honest leadership: Xi respected democracy far more than Trump even though he believes communism is the superior form of government.
... Where "claims" and "accusations" constitute definitive proof.
Soon we will see coming from China: "A report claimed {that Apple forces workers to work without pay]'
"[Apple] has been accused [of stealing ip from Huawei]....."
Isn't it time to stop this bullshit?
It's just standard propaganda crap: You start with an unproven assumption or accusation and then just keep building on it till the fools assume it's reality.
Trump was a master at it: "Many people are saying...." and then letting FauxNews and the right wing propaganda machine repeat the lie till it became reality for the cult.
Yeah, who are you going to believe, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, plus a plethora of other NGO sources, or the Chairman for Life successor of Mao...
I'll wait for actual evidence of serious wrongdoing instead of hate, propaganda and hearsay.
Meanwhile I'll concern myself with important and verified injustices that happen daily right here in America as well as those actually attacking our democracy -- you know, the stuff you ignore because you're so busy hating on China.
Biden is dong pretty well, considering he has only been in office for about 140 days.
Xi, on the other hand, has been in power since March of 2013, so yeah, not doing so great. You seem a solid Xi supporter, so I'm guessing that you believe there are a lot of China Haters that you need to respond to.
Me, there's a whole lot of people in the world that don't trust Xi or the PRC, and given the lack of transparency in China, I find that the evidence that has come to light, is the tip of the iceberg of what will ultimately be uncovered.
You're on the wrong side of this, but that's where contrarians like you want to be.
LOL... Who did you query? Your deluded, delusional friends?
Because you hate China and its president doesn't mean the Chinese do.
By the way, that 24% without confidence in Biden are the crazies expecting Trump to be reinstated in August.
"Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. We conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, content analysis and other data-driven social science research. We do not take policy positions."
Survey methodology;
"In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."
Who was surveyed;
France, Germany, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, UK, Spain, South Korea, Australia, Greece
"The brutal clampdown in Xinjiang represents an about-face from the communist party’s original approach to cultural differences"
BTW, you still have your head up your ass.
China is not surveyed. And you believe this survey is believable. lol
At the heart of the ongoing smear campaigns being conducted by western nations against China is a power struggle: China will no longer submit to being dominated by the western nations who once colonized it and other countries throughout the world. From Reuters, their message to the G7 (which is increasingly looking like a private club of self declared elite) is clear and direct:
_________________________________________________________________________ China
on Sunday pointedly cautioned Group of Seven leaders that the days when
“small” groups of countries decided the fate of the world was long
gone, hitting back at the world’s richest democracies which have sought a
unified position over Beijing.
"The
days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries
are long gone," a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in London said.
"We
always believe that countries, big or small, strong or weak, poor or
rich, are equals, and that world affairs should be handled through
consultation by all countries." _________________________________________________________________________
Somehow they sound more democratic than those touting democracy but practicing a modernized version of colonialism.
Democracies, real ones, include all -- not just the chosen few.
Oh for fucks sake,
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Like in the U.S. itself, those rules worked well -- for some. For others they sucked. Ask George Floyd or Central America -- which is turning to China for help.
China has made it clear that the old colonial powers will treat China with respect. The U.S. is having a hard time hearing that though. It still wants to dictate how China will run its country. And it's resurrecting old cold war ideologies to justify it.
How's that strategy actually working out for the PRC?
I suspect China is laughing at him. They'll sink his silly boats in minutes.
China is a nuclear power entirely capable of not only taking out our Pacific Fleet but the U.S. in general.
We should probably stop poking that sleeping giant.
And vice-versa, (and we still stand as challenge to Russia). We would sink their silly boats too. Mutual assured destruction... Only the ignorant or truly despicable crazy would push the button.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
When was the last time we won war? I can't remember? I think it was before I was born.
And this would only be sea based war for the U.S. China could and would pick and choose. But for the U.S., our only meaningful conventional weapon would be 300 meter long Aircraft carriers -- aka "Broad side of a barn" -- very hard to miss with a cruise missile.
But it's not China pushing for a war. They want to trade with us not fight us.
But, the fact is: we gain far more from keeping China as a friend and partner than we do from Taiwan. In fact, even worse: making an enemy of China gains us NOTHING and costs us enormously.
In the end whether we win or lose a war with China, we lose.
Some claim I love China and hate the U.S. The truth is: I admire China and all they have accomplished, but am otherwise indifferent about them. But, I do love the U.S. and think it is making an enormous mistake picking a fight with one of our most important business partners -- especially a fight that we can only lose.
Plus, like with Iraq, our hubris is leading us into a conflict with no goal and no exit plan. That's never smart.
China doesn't want to fight with us. They want to trade with us. It's us picking the fight. Why? Because they're better at manufacturing than we are? Well, we just need to get better at it -- or adjust to the fact that we aren't.
You might find this from a Pentagon analyst informative:
"Many Americans assume China's citizenry longs for a liberal democracy
[You remember Gator? Like we claimed in Iraq?] like that on the island of Taiwan, and that war will trigger popular
revolt. But the Taiwan question is not an ideological dispute. Rather it
is a raw and painful open wound in China's civilizational identity.
Today, US othering of Chinese only fuels a fierce nationalism in its 1.4
billion citizens. China has a traditional self-narrative wherein the
preservation of face and enforcement of sovereignty are inseparable.
All
the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would
be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her
casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the
US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea,
and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should
never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants
about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and
sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But,
whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal
affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's
non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them
Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will
choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation
incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The
US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's
sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility.
However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a
fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share
the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in
China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s
for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year
occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh,
unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think
twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and
internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to
peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence"
ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could
rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's
own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president
could order all national security agencies to stand down in
cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential
threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline.
Please provide a link to the source of the above; the context appears to be completely about U.S. defense of Taiwan in the event of invasion by the PRC. Taiwan is only part of the concern of the U.S. with the military expansionism of the PRC in the Indo-Pacific being primary.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
So you think the U.S. could win an all out war with China because it might have a great bomber "that can reach anywhere in the world"? (Did you know we've had one of those since the 1950's?)
How stupid can you get?
... In all out war, we both lose. But mostly the U.S.
As the analyst said: The U.S. cannot allow Taiwan to wag the U.S. dog.
Nor can it let propaganda and ideology drive it into a war for which it has nothing to gain and everything to lose -- no matter how much you hate China.
"In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people
will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses
no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the
trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of
the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised
foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate
America's decline."
Did you miss the part where I asked for the link to your Quote?
Where's the quote you posted from?
Did you miss the part where my link noted that there was enough uncertainty in a Chinese attack on Taiwan that the U.S. et al, could make it too risky for China to attempt? Large scale amphibious landing would be needed, and the only nations with that experience are the UK, Canada, and the U.S., but specifically the U.S. Marine Corp still maintains that skillset. And crossing over 80 miles of water in a world of anti-ship missiles is not for the light hearted.
Still, no blood would be spilled if no attack happens.
Man up, you simpleton, and get me the link to your quote.
He's not giving you the link because it comes from a Chinese paper. I suspect much of what he says comes from Chinese sources, but it doesn't really matter. You are ascribing too much importance to his opinion. At least you know what he considers a reliable source and where his news comes from and that should be enough. Just let it go. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1222217.shtml
Translation: "We have no retort -- so we'll just ignore the fact that a Pentagon analyst blew your hate filled, war mongering out the window."
Comments
What you describe isn't colonialism. If anything, it is a counter to China's growing colonialism of the BRI. The G7 will be giving smaller nations options to financial support without the conditions that are attached to BRI financing, and its about time for that. It was the U.S. the lead the world after WWII and established the rules of order that have been working well for some 75 years. Now China wants to create its own rules, based on its authoritarianism, so why wouldn't the democracies of the G7 counter China's Military and Economic expansionism?
Better sooner than later that the West counters China.
Please recall that it was the U.S. and Britain that were instrumental in containing and rolling back the Japanese Military expansion in China, South Asia, and the South Pacific during WWII. Then note that the PRC is preparing for a similar economic and military expansion in the Indo-Pacific and Africa, driven by a massive naval shipbuilding program, alongside naval militia's operating in the South China Sea.
What could possibly go wrong with that?
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Indo-Pacific/China-wants-to-control-Indo-Pacific-Defense-Secretary-Austin-says
"As we look at some of the aggressive behavior that we've witnessed from China in the Indo-Pacific, you know, I'm concerned about something that could happen that could spark a crisis, and I think ... we need the ability to be able to talk with both our allies and partners but also our adversaries, or potential adversaries."
The facts of the truth is in the last forty years Chinese workers produced lots of goods for poor nations in the world. These nations are grateful of China. This is why in WHA majority of them sided with China despite G7.
https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2651534/secretary-of-defense-directive-on-china-task-force-recommendations/#.YMDxBBrfn8g.twitter
https://www.ft.com/content/3ec3ea51-e1da-4453-b972-3cb29b66508a
We should stop with the bluster, focus on actual enemies (the ones attacking us like the Russians and Right Wing Terrorists) and actually protect the people of this country and further its interests. Another cold war won't get us there.
You would not be the first to underestimate the United States and Western Democracy's ability to defend itself from those who would start a war to run the world in their image. Don't sound so much like a cheerleader. Poking at the US as a has-been giant might not be such a good idea either.
All the while the balance of power has shifted fundamentally. The US would be wise to regard China as a peer superpower, if only due to her casualty-tolerance - China's decisive advantage in any fight with the US. China also shares a binding mutual defense treaty with North Korea, and the depths of its friendship and security bonds with Russia should never be underestimated.
The US can think whatever it wants about China's ideology, culture, Xinjiang and Hong Kong policies, and sovereign claims to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and surrounding seas. But, whether the US likes it or not, those are ultimately China's internal affairs.
As for DPP claims of the Province of Taiwan's non-Chinese identity, they are historical fiction. Fate made them Chinese just as fate made us Americans. We also know that the free will choice to carve out a territory and people from an existing nation incurs a steep price, one the Confederacy paid not long ago.
The US has never paid an existential price for violating another nation's sovereignty, leading to our smug sense of military invincibility. However, with Taiwan being a core Chinese priority, that would be a fatal miscalculation. Still, the US counts on regional allies to share the pain. Yet some will have blood debts to pay if they engage in China's civil war. For example, India was bloodied badly in the 1960s for testing China's territorial resolve. Japan's humiliating 50-year occupation of Taiwan and the Rape of Nanjing also remain fresh, unforgettable wounds for China. The US allies will definitely think twice before militarily intervening in China's unresolved civil war and internal affairs.
The US could advise Taiwan's secessionists to peaceably accept "one country, two systems" and cease its "independence" ambitions. If they don't stop their rhetoric, the US president could rescind the TRA, as baiting China to force reunification is of the DPP's own choosing. If Congress obstructs TRA recension, the US president could order all national security agencies to stand down in cross-Straits conflicts, keeping our powder dry for actual existential threats in the future.
In the end, the prosperous Taiwan people will make every effort to wag the American dog. But Taiwan's fate poses no existential threat to the US, and the US should not fall into the trap of paying for their hubris with American blood. However, in view of the violent political polarization of the US at home, an ill-advised foreign war with no path to victory would only serve to accelerate America's decline.
You seem captivated by the PRC's DF21 and DF26B "ship killer" missiles versus U.S. carriers, when in fact, the risk to U.S./UK/French/South Korean/Japanese carriers in the Pacific is quite limited outside of operations inside the First and Second Island Chains (look it up). Certainly an attack on any ally would generate a military response from the U.S, which would likely turn the South China Sea into a kill zone.
A battle space isn't great for trade, and given that China cannot produce enough food for its own population, would likely result in mass starvation of its people, should the conflict lasts for more than a few months. Seems like a high risk strategy to attack the West, and it becomes apparent why the West is shifting critical production out of China.
Here's something that the PRC will face beginning in the middle of this decade;
https://www.northropgrumman.com/what-we-do/air/b-21-raider/b-21-faqs/
"What role will the aircraft play?
As adversaries continue to invest in and develop advanced weapons, the B-21 Raider will provide the United States with a strategic asset capable of penetrating enemy air defenses and reaching targets anywhere in the world — something approximately 90 percent of the nation’s current bomber fleet is incapable of doing."
How difficult will it be for the PRC to invade Taiwan;https://dnnlgwick.blob.core.windows.net/portals/0/NWCDepartments/China Maritime Studies Institute/NWC_CMSI_Conference_Quick Look_20210614_Large-Scale Amphibious Warfare in Chinese Military Strategy.pdf?sv=2017-04-17&sr=b&si=DNNFileManagerPolicy&sig=4j5oeE7jvn+4MMG+3js4JuRG5TRnALldHS5Zupz7OC8=
"IMPLICATIONS
The PLA has achieved tremendous progress in developing many of the capabilities needed for a cross- Strait invasion. The threat posed to Taiwan is grave.
Nevertheless, the inherent challenges and risks remain sufficiently high for Xi and the CCP that Taipei, Washington, and Tokyo can continue to deter—or, in a worst case, frustrate—an invasion.
Key PRC sensors are far less numerous than key PRC shooters, and hence a better single-point- failure target for limited U.S. and allied fires.
Taiwan must redouble its efforts to build A2/AD (anti access/area denial) “porcupine” capabilities grounded in its natural defenses.
U.S. planners must consider the possibility of the PRC improvising in just-good-enough-for-long- enough fashion to attempt to pursue basic political objectives, particularly if events or trendlines “force” Xi’s hand."
(Did you know we've had one of those since the 1950's?)
Where's the quote you posted from?
Did you miss the part where my link noted that there was enough uncertainty in a Chinese attack on Taiwan that the U.S. et al, could make it too risky for China to attempt? Large scale amphibious landing would be needed, and the only nations with that experience are the UK, Canada, and the U.S., but specifically the U.S. Marine Corp still maintains that skillset. And crossing over 80 miles of water in a world of anti-ship missiles is not for the light hearted.
Still, no blood would be spilled if no attack happens.
Man up, you simpleton, and get me the link to your quote.
That's enough, and where's the fucking link to that analyst that I requested?
For the record, there is another U.S. Carrier legally navigating the South China Sea, the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan.
NATO is aligning against China as well; do you have a problem with that too?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1222217.shtml
Looks like the writer is Franz Gayl.
https://www.newsweek.com/who-franz-gayl-pentagon-worker-taking-heat-op-eds-chinese-state-media-1600064
I'm done.
Translation: "We have no retort -- so we'll just ignore the fact that a Pentagon analyst blew your hate filled, war mongering out the window."