Reminder: Don't install Apple's betas on any critical devices unless you really hate yours...

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in General Discussion edited June 2021
New features for you iPhone, iPad, Mac and Apple Watch are almost here -- they're fun! They're exciting! They're in beta form and they're inevitably going to cause you a lot of misery, so unless you're a developer or you have old hardware to test it on, be patient.




We at AppleInsider say it every year, because we really do love you, dear reader, and we mean it. So, to that end, we're going to put this in bold so it can't be missed.

Developer betas released right after WWDC are a mess, and are not intended for public consumption or for use on your primary machine.

Sure, it's tempting. Universal Control looks amazing, text entry on the Apple Watch is vastly improved, and man am I excited to dig into Shortcuts for Mac.






I've also been covering Apple products professionally for more than a dozen years and have seen and personally experienced just about all of it when it comes to beta disasters. We're talking home movies edited in Final Cut, lost to oblivion when a Mac OS X beta completely melted down, because I hadn't done a Time Machine backup to my hard drive in a few weeks.

Learn from me. Learn from all of us. Don't risk it. Just because you may not have been bitten yet, doesn't mean that it isn't probable that you'll run into trouble at some point.

And, the reports have already started to come in, with impacted folks discussing not just local data loss, but issues with iCloud on older devices.




That's not to say you can't or shouldn't live on the edge a little bit, but there are practical and reasonable ways to dabble in the world of buggy betas without regretting your decision too much.

The most sensible approach, if you're not a developer, is not to install a developer beta. It's named that for a reason. Instead, wait for the public betas of iOS 15, iPadOS 15, and macOS Monterey, which Apple will issue in July.

Once Apple releases its public betas, that's the company's way of saying "These may not be ready for the general public, but it's OK for enthusiasts to dip in and help us squash bugs."




Even then, it's not advisable to install public betas on your primary machines. If you only have one iPhone, and you rely on it for critical work every day, you're not a great candidate for a public beta.

Perhaps you have an older iPhone laying around. Perhaps your iPad is used primarily for media consumption and isn't your main computer. Or perhaps you know your way around Disk Utility on your Mac and feel comfortable setting up a separate partition for macOS Monterey.

If any of the above apply to you, and you're not a developer, July is your time to shine. Enjoy the smug satisfaction of showing off new features months before your friends and family will get their hands on them (and be prepared to qualify your presentations with "It's still in beta!" when your demo inevitably crashes or doesn't work as expected).

There are two caveats here: Apple Watch and Apple TV 4K. Neither has a physical port that owners can access, so, all updates are installed either wirelessly or across Ethernet in the case of the Apple TV. This leaves no way to roll back the betas if something explodes.

And if something goes wrong in the initial install or a future beta update, your Apple Watch or Apple TV can be bricked, and you'll need to mail it in to Apple to have them fix it for you. Install this one at your own risk.

But really, if you want to save yourself some frustration and some heartache, just wait for September when the new software updates start to leave beta. That goes for all platforms.

Because if you really wanted a buggy, unreliable, unsafe, frustrating experience that makes you regret using computers, you'd just run Windows or Android.

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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 16
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,198member
    Seconded.

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    watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 16
    shaminoshamino Posts: 527member
    There are two caveats here: Apple Watch and Apple TV 4K. Neither has a physical port that owners can access, so, all updates are installed either wirelessly or across Ethernet in the case of the Apple TV. This leaves no way to roll back the betas if something explodes.


    And if something goes wrong in the initial install or a future beta update, your Apple Watch or Apple TV can be bricked, and you'll need to mail it in to Apple to have them fix it for you. Install this one at your own risk.
    The really aggravating part here is that both AppleTV and Apple Watch have hidden undocumented diagnostic ports that can be used to restore firmware when this happens (much like how the USB port on 3rd generation AppleTV can be used for this) but as far as I know, the special cable needed to use this port isn't available for anyone (at least anyone outside of Apple's repair facilities) to buy.

    See also:
    I wonder if someone with the appropriate cable could use iOS-standard tools (iTunes, Finder or Configurator) to restore firmware to these devices.  Has anyone here read reports of someone doing this?
    edited June 2021 watto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 16
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,096member
    I contribute a lot in the Apple Discussion forums and sure enough, the ink wasn't even dry yet and already there were people asking how to get their hands on MacOS Monterey.  Seriously.  If you have to ask how to get it, you probably should even be trying.

    Waiting for the those that installed the beta and criticizing Apple for the beta crashing their computer or deleting data.... just wait.
    lkruppwatto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 16
    Dougie.SDougie.S Posts: 40member
    Can we have more information on the current reports of issues? Such as is the local data loss on macOS or iOS, or both? 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 16
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,016member
    Absolutely love the title and tone of this article.  It reminds me of the old days, when AI was far less corporate and polished, but more fun.  
    nhughesRayz2016bikerdudebyronlFidonet127FileMakerFellerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 16
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    sflocal said:
    I contribute a lot in the Apple Discussion forums and sure enough, the ink wasn't even dry yet and already there were people asking how to get their hands on MacOS Monterey.  Seriously.  If you have to ask how to get it, you probably should even be trying.

    Waiting for the those that installed the beta and criticizing Apple for the beta crashing their computer or deleting data.... just wait.
    Yep, I’m there a lot too and the number of complete morons cannot be understated. Then, when they screw the pooch, jump the shark, get FUBAB’d, lose everything, AND HAD NO BACKUP, they rage against Apple because they have work projects that have deadlines. It’s hard not to laugh. 
    edited June 2021 hammeroftruthwatto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 16
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    lkrupp said:
    sflocal said:
    I contribute a lot in the Apple Discussion forums and sure enough, the ink wasn't even dry yet and already there were people asking how to get their hands on MacOS Monterey.  Seriously.  If you have to ask how to get it, you probably should even be trying.

    Waiting for the those that installed the beta and criticizing Apple for the beta crashing their computer or deleting data.... just wait.
    Yep, I’m there a lot too and the number of complete morons cannot be understated. Then, when they screw the pooch, jump the shark, get FUBAB’d, lose everything, AND HAD NO BACKUP, they rage against Apple because they have work projects that have deadlines. It’s hard not to laugh. 
    I don’t even try to stop myself. I laugh hard and I laugh long. 

  • Reply 8 of 16
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 6,861administrator
    Dougie.S said:
    Can we have more information on the current reports of issues? Such as is the local data loss on macOS or iOS, or both? 
    Both. It's a very early beta and these things will happen and have happened every year for the last 10 WWDCs that I've been public-facing. Probably happened before then too, but I didn't care as much as my clients were smart enough to NOT do this.

    Thus, this piece. Annually.
    edited June 2021 nhughesmuthuk_vanalingamhammeroftruthFileMakerFeller
  • Reply 9 of 16
    cornchipcornchip Posts: 1,950member
    Hahahah love the headline. For the life of me I don’t understand why anyone would do this. If you’ve got a backup Mac, sure. Primary machine you need to get work done? Like…. Dude. WTH?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 16
    anomeanome Posts: 1,533member
    I'll wait for the public beta before installing anything, and then I'll install the iOS beta on my backup phone, and macOS beta on a virtual machine. Actually, a couple of VMs, one on my M1 mini, the other on my 15" MBP.

    The problem is iPadOS. I only have the one iPad. Then again, I don't really consider my iPad as being "mission-critical", so I'm usually OK with the risk on that one. The biggest problem is remembering to get it off the beta stream after the actual production release.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 16
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,372member
    I have a spare iPad Pro to play with so I installed iPadOS 15 on it. It’s about what you’d expect for a Beta R1. Safari crashes if I set focus to the navigation/url bar on the first tab, but if I open additional tabs they all work fine. I wouldn’t install this on a mission critical device, but so far it’s been pretty smooth and responsive. I’ll kick it harder tomorrow to see what else breaks.
    FileMakerFellerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 12 of 16
    macOS betas only have becomes a mess since macOS BS. We developers have been joking that BS never left beta.

    Apple should have something called Quality. BS started out with white menu icons on a white background. In the year since BS I reported many stupidly obvious bugs. Some of them haven't been fixed. Drag-and-drop out of Messages for instance must be really complicated. iCloud stopped working one day in BS.

    And no, there is no feature in Monterey that looks remotely interesting.
  • Reply 13 of 16
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    What struck me during they keynote (and afterwards, looking at the previews on Apple website) is the convergence. 

    There seems to very little that’s unique across MacOS, iPadOS and iOS. The only thing separating them are the UI and the power of the apps you can run on them. 

    I don’t think anyone else has managed to take the idea of the scaleable platform this far. 
    edited June 2021 watto_cobra
  • Reply 14 of 16
    bestkeptsecretbestkeptsecret Posts: 4,265member
    sdw2001 said:
    Absolutely love the title and tone of this article.  It reminds me of the old days, when AI was far less corporate and polished, but more fun.  
    Neil usually makes it a point to do this article after a WWDC. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 16
    hammeroftruthhammeroftruth Posts: 1,309member
    shamino said:
    There are two caveats here: Apple Watch and Apple TV 4K. Neither has a physical port that owners can access, so, all updates are installed either wirelessly or across Ethernet in the case of the Apple TV. This leaves no way to roll back the betas if something explodes.


    And if something goes wrong in the initial install or a future beta update, your Apple Watch or Apple TV can be bricked, and you'll need to mail it in to Apple to have them fix it for you. Install this one at your own risk.
    The really aggravating part here is that both AppleTV and Apple Watch have hidden undocumented diagnostic ports that can be used to restore firmware when this happens (much like how the USB port on 3rd generation AppleTV can be used for this) but as far as I know, the special cable needed to use this port isn't available for anyone (at least anyone outside of Apple's repair facilities) to buy.

    See also:
    I wonder if someone with the appropriate cable could use iOS-standard tools (iTunes, Finder or Configurator) to restore firmware to these devices.  Has anyone here read reports of someone doing this?
    If you have the correct adapter, you can use Configurator to restore the device.
    Outside of Apple, you’ll have a hard time finding those cables unless you get one from a shady source in China and even then it’s not worth the risk. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 16
    I ordered a refurbed iPhone SE 2020 just so I could install iOS 15. Those things are really affordable now. Got mine for about $130. It's locked to some network but it won't ever be used as an actual phone so that's fine.
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