Tim Cook, other CEOs urge Congress to pass citizenship path for Dreamers

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Apple CEO Tim Cook was among more than 90 chief executives who have signed onto a letter urging Congress to guarantee a path to citizenship for Dreamers.

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In the letter sent to President Joe Biden and congressional leaders on Wednesday, the chief executives urged lawmakers to pass a law that would offer a citizenship path for Dreamers, or young immigrants brought to the country as children. The CEOs said that thousands of Dreamers were "valued employees at our companies," Bloomberg has reported.

The letter, which was also signed by CEOs at Amazon and Facebook, goes on to say that a recent federal court ruling against the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) "throws into chaos" the ability for Dreamers to live and work in the U.S.

President Biden is reportedly set to meet with Democratic lawmakers on DACA. The letter from the CEOs is likely meant to put pressure on Republican lawmakers who are likely to oppose Democrats' efforts.

In addition to Cook, Amazon's Andy Jassy, and Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg, the letter was also signed by CEOs of Alphabet, Microsoft, Verizon, GM, IBM, Visa, Uber, Target, and Salesforce, among others.

According to Bloomberg, the letter was organized by the Coalition for the American Dream, an organization of companies and interest groups that support reforming U.S. immigration laws.

Cook has long voiced his support for immigration reform, and publicly came out against specific government actions during the Trump Administration. Earlier in 2021, Cook also urged U.S. lawmakers to reform immigration laws specifically to provide a pathway to citizenship for Dreamers.

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scudsam

First let’s see if Americans need a job.  If they come here legally, no problem.  

rorwessels

Link648099 said:

This administration is colluding with Big Tech to deny the American People their voice, and people like Cook are advocating for illegals to get a free pass?

Remember, they hate you.

Careful, AppleInsider is part of the media. You don’t want them to report you to the Gheshtappo err at mean FBI as a subversive.

libertyforall

Congress needs to institute at least a ten year ban on any government-provided benefits to those who come to this country illegally (should probably be longer for illegals) or legally.  This could help ensure that those who are coming genuinely want to work hard and make a better life for themselves, not merely take taxpayer funded benefits.  Those who also come here need to be formally educated about our history and form of Constitutional Republic to help ensure we don't just get more people here from socialist or communist nations looking to push to convert our nation.  There are enough of those nations already.  

crowley

Haha, gremlins creeping out from the shadows here.  Call a wah-mbulance, losers.

crowley

libertyforall said:

Congress needs to institute at least a ten year ban on any government-provided benefits to those who come to this country illegally (should probably be longer for illegals) or legally.  This could help ensure that those who are coming genuinely want to work hard and make a better life for themselves, not merely take taxpayer funded benefits.  Those who also come here need to be formally educated about our history and form of Constitutional Republic to help ensure we don't just get more people here from socialist or communist nations looking to push to convert our nation.  There are enough of those nations already.  

Education is a government provided benefit.  And would you refuse them police and fire services too?  Are their savings in the bank not guaranteed by the federal government? 

And if they can't draw on it, then it follows that immigrants should be excused from paying social security, and there, you've just made it more attractive to hire immigrants.

Incidentally, the thread is about dreamers, people who came to the United States as children, so your points are barely relevant to them anyway.

sdw2001

I think most people agree there should be a pathway for these folks. However, we have much bigger problems to solve first. We are seeing millions of illegal immigrants stream across the southern border, many of whom have Covid.  They are being shipped into the interior of the country at an alarming rate. Not only is it an obvious security concern, but a health concern and strain on our public resources. It’s also incredibly dangerous for the people who come.  We have to fix this problem first. 

ronn

crowley said:

libertyforall said:

Congress needs to institute at least a ten year ban on any government-provided benefits to those who come to this country illegally (should probably be longer for illegals) or legally.  This could help ensure that those who are coming genuinely want to work hard and make a better life for themselves, not merely take taxpayer funded benefits.  Those who also come here need to be formally educated about our history and form of Constitutional Republic to help ensure we don't just get more people here from socialist or communist nations looking to push to convert our nation.  There are enough of those nations already.  

Education is a government provided benefit.  And would you refuse them police and fire services too?  Are their savings in the bank not guaranteed by the federal government? 

And if they can't draw on it, then it follows that immigrants should be excused from paying social security, and there, you've just made it more attractive to hire immigrants.

Incidentally, the thread is about dreamers, people who came to the United States as children, so your points are barely relevant to them anyway.

They have no legitimate points to make on the post. They just regurgitate GOP/Right-Wing nonsense. I'm sure comments will be disabled shortly. Which is probably the true intent of the "gremlins" (thx! for the appropriate name  )

cfilipponi

How about maybe spending some time fixing all the stuff that doesn't work on Mac and iPhone.  Steve would never accept with what is happening today with Apple and the way things work (Dont work).

cfilipponi

As for the Dreamers,  You want to pay for them .... fine .... but just send me a copy of the receipts please.

lkrupp

scudsam said:

First let’s see if Americans need a job.  If they come here legally, no problem.  

Americans don’t need jobs. The Biden administration is paying for their every need. Mark my words, the unemployment benefits enacted during the pandemic will be made permanent. The freeze on evictions will be made permanent. Anyone who chooses not to work will be handsomely supported by the government. No American will ever have to work again if they don’t want to so let the dreamers stay. Somebody has to do the work after all. 

crowley

lkrupp said:

scudsam said:

First let’s see if Americans need a job.  If they come here legally, no problem.  

Americans don’t need jobs. The Biden administration is paying for their every need. Mark my words, the unemployment benefits enacted during the pandemic will be made permanent. The freeze on evictions will be made permanent. Anyone who chooses not to work will be handsomely supported by the government. No American will ever have to work again if they don’t want to so let the dreamers stay. Somebody has to do the work after all. 

Consider your words marked.

Kuyangkoh

sdw2001 said:

I think most people agree there should be a pathway for these folks. However, we have much bigger problems to solve first. We are seeing millions of illegal immigrants stream across the southern border, many of whom have Covid.  They are being shipped into the interior of the country at an alarming rate. Not only is it an obvious security concern, but a health concern and strain on our public resources. It’s also incredibly dangerous for the people who come.  We have to fix this problem first. 

Good luck on that one for the next 4 years

ronn

lkrupp said:

scudsam said:

First let’s see if Americans need a job.  If they come here legally, no problem.  

Americans don’t need jobs. The Biden administration is paying for their every need. Mark my words, the unemployment benefits enacted during the pandemic will be made permanent. The freeze on evictions will be made permanent. Anyone who chooses not to work will be handsomely supported by the government. No American will ever have to work again if they don’t want to so let the dreamers stay. Somebody has to do the work after all. 

26 states already ended the enhanced UI benefits (WI & NC would have joined them were it not for a veto by their Dem governor). The program ends in early September for all the other states.

buttesilver

lkrupp said:

scudsam said:

First let’s see if Americans need a job.  If they come here legally, no problem.  

Americans don’t need jobs. The Biden administration is paying for their every need. Mark my words, the unemployment benefits enacted during the pandemic will be made permanent. The freeze on evictions will be made permanent. Anyone who chooses not to work will be handsomely supported by the government. No American will ever have to work again if they don’t want to so let the dreamers stay. Somebody has to do the work after all. 

You're already wrong on the evictions - Biden just said it's over Saturday...
OTOH, I don't at all doubt that he/they would love to just keep people on the public dime as long as they can.  I just finished a 2200 mile road-trip, much of it through Montana/Idaho/Utah and there were a lot of places with scaled back hours due to not being able to get enough employees on board.  Pay folks more than min-wage or close for long enough, and streaming in Mom's basement is a really appealing option ain't it?  Merca, 2021...

StrangeDays

Link648099 said:

This administration is colluding with Big Tech to deny the American People their voice, and people like Cook are advocating for illegals to get a free pass?

Remember, they hate you.

What the fuck are you even talking about? No, big tech is not denying the American people their freedom of speech. You are free to start a website, publish a wingnut manifesto, and publish whatever you want. But nobody is obligated to publish your work on their own properties.

The only people who hate are the right-wing nutso outlets who have poisoned your brain.

StrangeDays

Webmaster said:

Tim Crook.... no surprise here. or there.  

Seek help. Trump lost.

sdw2001 said:

I think most people agree there should be a pathway for these folks. However, we have much bigger problems to solve first. We are seeing millions of illegal immigrants stream across the southern border, many of whom have Covid.  They are being shipped into the interior of the country at an alarming rate. Not only is it an obvious security concern, but a health concern and strain on our public resources. It’s also incredibly dangerous for the people who come.  We have to fix this problem first.

Another wingnut - nope, the COVID pandemic is alive because 55% of the nation are anti-vax wingnuts, not because of the border. But nice try circling the wagons against “the others”.

lkrupp said:

scudsam said:

First let’s see if Americans need a job.  If they come here legally, no problem.  

Americans don’t need jobs. The Biden administration is paying for their every need. Mark my words, the unemployment benefits enacted during the pandemic will be made permanent. The freeze on evictions will be made permanent. Anyone who chooses not to work will be handsomely supported by the government. No American will ever have to work again if they don’t want to so let the dreamers stay. Somebody has to do the work after all. 

None of that is true. You apparently have a condition allowing paranoid delusions to run rampant in your head.

buttesilver said:

lkrupp said:

scudsam said:

First let’s see if Americans need a job.  If they come here legally, no problem.  

Americans don’t need jobs. The Biden administration is paying for their every need. Mark my words, the unemployment benefits enacted during the pandemic will be made permanent. The freeze on evictions will be made permanent. Anyone who chooses not to work will be handsomely supported by the government. No American will ever have to work again if they don’t want to so let the dreamers stay. Somebody has to do the work after all. 

You're already wrong on the evictions - Biden just said it's over Saturday...
OTOH, I don't at all doubt that he/they would love to just keep people on the public dime as long as they can.  I just finished a 2200 mile road-trip, much of it through Montana/Idaho/Utah and there were a lot of places with scaled back hours due to not being able to get enough employees on board.  Pay folks more than min-wage or close for long enough, and streaming in Mom's basement is a really appealing option ain't it?  Merca, 2021...

Repeat after me: there isn’t a labor shortage, there’s a pay shortage. Companies that pay decent wages have lines of candidates. Like these pizzerias:

https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-chain-ceo-says-theres-no-labor-shortage-if-you-pay-well-2021-7

red oak

Agreed re:  citizenship after long process.  But only if It is a one-time exception. 

But why does he NEVER say anything about stopping the flood of illegal immigration?    Why is it so controversial to support the laws of the country? 

robaba

buttesilver said:

lkrupp said:

scudsam said:

First let’s see if Americans need a job.  If they come here legally, no problem.  

Americans don’t need jobs. The Biden administration is paying for their every need. Mark my words, the unemployment benefits enacted during the pandemic will be made permanent. The freeze on evictions will be made permanent. Anyone who chooses not to work will be handsomely supported by the government. No American will ever have to work again if they don’t want to so let the dreamers stay. Somebody has to do the work after all. 

You're already wrong on the evictions - Biden just said it's over Saturday...
OTOH, I don't at all doubt that he/they would love to just keep people on the public dime as long as they can.  I just finished a 2200 mile road-trip, much of it through Montana/Idaho/Utah and there were a lot of places with scaled back hours due to not being able to get enough employees on board.  Pay folks more than min-wage or close for long enough, and streaming in Mom's basement is a really appealing option ain't it?  Merca, 2021...

Sounds like it’s time to raise the minimum wage.  Nobody WANTS to be homeless, it’s often a choice forced on them.

maestro64

Repeat after me: there isn’t a labor shortage, there’s a pay shortage. Companies that pay decent wages have lines of candidates. Like these pizzerias:

https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-chain-ceo-says-theres-no-labor-shortage-if-you-pay-well-2021-7

Actually, repeat after me, it is the lack of people wanting to work at a job which requires you to work. That article is just one guy's opinion of what he is seeing.

I work in supply chain and travel all over meeting with companies who make things for my company. We mostly deal with small and medium size business these are company who do $10M to  $50M of business a year. I have been hearing this for years even pre-pandemic they can not find people to work and most have starting wages of $15 some lower at $12 depending on the job, non of them pay minimum wage and have not paid that for a very long time. The pandemic made it worse for these companies because two people living together collecting benefits today make more than the medium household incoming. The government found a way to transfer wealth. They taxing the taxes they collect from the people who pay taxes and give it to those who now decided not to work.

Keep in mind minimum wage is not design to allow people to have a family and property. This wage is design for temporary employment like kids who are still in their parents home. You have to ask yourself if you have an older person looking or taking minimum wages job what is their problem since their are plenty of jobs which pay above minimum wage. Even when I was in high school I was always able to find jobs which paid well above minimum wage, but those jobs required you to work hard not just standing around stocking a shelf in a grocery store or flipping burgers.

This problem is more complicated than what people are getting paid, and a lot of it has to do how the government is incentivizing people to work or not work.

robaba

maestro64 said:

Repeat after me: there isn’t a labor shortage, there’s a pay shortage. Companies that pay decent wages have lines of candidates. Like these pizzerias:

https://www.businessinsider.com/pizza-chain-ceo-says-theres-no-labor-shortage-if-you-pay-well-2021-7

Actually, repeat after me, it is the lack of people wanting to work at a job which requires you to work. That article is just one guy's opinion of what he is seeing.

I work in supply chain and travel all over meeting with companies who make things for my company. We mostly deal with small and medium size business these are company who do $10M to  $50M of business a year. I have been hearing this for years even pre-pandemic they can not find people to work and most have starting wages of $15 some lower at $12 depending on the job, non of them pay minimum wage and have not paid that for a very long time. The pandemic made it worse for these companies because two people living together collecting benefits today make more than the medium household incoming. The government found a way to transfer wealth. They taxing the taxes they collect from the people who pay taxes and give it to those who now decided not to work.

Keep in mind minimum wage is not design to allow people to have a family and property. This wage is design for temporary employment like kids who are still in their parents home. You have to ask yourself if you have an older person looking or taking minimum wages job what is their problem since their are plenty of jobs which pay above minimum wage. Even when I was in high school I was always able to find jobs which paid well above minimum wage, but those jobs required you to work hard not just standing around stocking a shelf in a grocery store or flipping burgers.

This problem is more complicated than what people are getting paid, and a lot of it has to do how the government is incentivizing people to work or not work.

Other factors to consider…. 

1. Cost/availability of daycare?  Not everyone has a grandma, aunt, elder child to look after the kids while you are working, let alone the financial wherewithal to allow one spouse to stay home or pay for childcare.
2. Cost of transportation?  How many below the poverty line have lost access to private motor vehicles during the pandemic—from the looks of folks in my one small town, quite a few.  Factor in record heat, lousy air quality it’s downright unsafe in much of the west to try to “muscle through” and walk to work.  That’s not even factoring in the downright abysmal state of public transit throughout the US.
3. Given the above factors, how many people cannot even afford to track down work?
4. Believe it or not, half the US population has not been vaccinated yet and Delta seems even more contagious/deadly than the original strains.

but sure, blame it on the pittance being handed out through expanded unemployment benefits, that’s reasonable.