Cook praises 'symbiotic' 30-year relationship with China

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Apple CEO Tim Cook has offered praise over Apple's 30-year relationship with China, using a visit to the country to offer positive messages about the iPhone maker's workings in the country.

Apple CEO Tim Cook

Tim Cook has visited China for the first time since the start of the 2020 pandemic, using the occasion to mark a milestone anniversary between Apple and the country. Speaking at the China Development Forum, Cook offered complimentary commentary as Apple reaches its 30th anniversary of operation in the territory.

"We could not be more excited," according to Cook at the gather. "Apple and China grew together and so this has been a symbiotic kind of relationship," he continued, reports the Financial Times.

Cook refers to the extensive supply chain system in China, which he helped create for the iPhone producer over the decades. While there have been recent issues, such as the Zhengzhou factory problems, as well as discussions about Apple trying to spread work to different locales, Apple still relies heavily on a Chinese workforce.

As part of the same trip, Cook was greeted by applause when visiting the flagship Beijing Apple Store, which was also covered by state media.

"We have a very large supply chain operation in China and then of course we also have our Apple stores," said Cook. "From the moment we hit the ground yesterday, we couldn't wait to see some of our customers, so we went to the Sanliutn store."

The China Development Forum is being attended by a number of US business leaders, with the Beijing event considered a blow-out party after a three-year period dominated by zero-tolerance COVID policies.

Cook's attendance wasn't unnoticed by online observers, who contrasted the Apple CEO's largely positive appearance in China with the recent grilling of TikTok's leadership by the U.S. Congress.

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JP234

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

proline

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

mikethemartian

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

I’m all for free trade if a foreign vendor offers a better value due to same quality of product for lower price or better quality for the same price compared to a domestic supplier. What I am completely against is kowtowing to a foreign government and being a spokesperson for their propaganda.

TheThumper

Can't wait to see how "symbiotic" it is when we've enriched the CCP's economy and military enough that they can dominate the world with Communism. Way to go Timmy Boy!

waveparticle

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

Wow! All Russia's fault. US is the victim. Hate Russia, LOL.

jeffythequick

I like that Apple is looking outside China for sourcing their wares.  Having all of your eggs in one basket is not so good for eggs or metaphorically for your supply chain.

Doing so is not a good business strategy.  Sooner or later, things fall apart.

longfang

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

Name 1 dictator who attacked you.

9secondkox2

longfang said:

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

Name 1 dictator who attacked you.

Just because something hadn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it can’t or won’t. The lessons of history are meant to be learned from. 

A popular reminder:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

If we don’t stand up now, there may not be a chance later. 

JP234

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

That's just a flawed conflation. We are not Russia's best customer. With the recent sanctions, we aren't really a customer or supplier at all. Europe is the best customer for Russia's energy-related goods and services, and weaponry. They have no incentive to leave America alone, and they obviously see advantage in trying to destroy our democratic institutions, as was so transparently evidenced in their interference in our 2016 and 2020 elections.

We spend trillions more for products and services made in China, and their economy is utterly dependent on American consumers. And we can live without almost anything we buy from them. It's my belief that makes them less inclined to ruin our economy. Their exploits here are mainly to steal intellectual property for their own use.

JP234

9secondkox2 said:

longfang said:

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

Name 1 dictator who attacked you.

Just because something hadn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it can’t or won’t. The lessons of history are meant to be learned from. 

A popular reminder:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

If we don’t stand up now, there may not be a chance later. 

When quoting or paraphrasing, please cite your sources. This was written by Martin Niemöller, a right-wing Lutheran Pastor, who understood that fascist forces in Germany in the 1930's were not the brand of conservatism with which he wanted to be associated. His criticism of Hitler wound him up in German prisons and concentration camps from 1937-1945. It's a loose allegory of the old Arabic tale about the Camel's nose in the tent, or the Cold War's Domino Theory. As well as the axiom, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” often attributed to Edmund Burke or John Stuart Mill, but whose true origins remain cloudy at best.

coolfactor

waveparticle said:

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

Wow! All Russia's fault. US is the victim. Hate Russia, LOL.

The US is very young compared to Asian countries, particularly China. Unfortunately, because they are the current "world leader", that has gone to their heads, and no other country can be as great. That's the illusion right there. World powers come and go, and have for eons. The US will lose their dominance eventually. And we can only hope that the next world power will be democratic. and more mature and advanced than the current US leadership and population.

9secondkox2

JP234 said:

9secondkox2 said:

longfang said:

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

Name 1 dictator who attacked you.

Just because something hadn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it can’t or won’t. The lessons of history are meant to be learned from. 

A popular reminder:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

If we don’t stand up now, there may not be a chance later. 

When quoting or paraphrasing, please cite your sources. This was written by Martin Niemöller, a right-wing Lutheran Pastor, who understood that fascist forces in Germany in the 1930's were not the brand of conservatism with which he wanted to be associated. His criticism of Hitler wound him up in German prisons and concentration camps from 1937-1945. It's a loose allegory of the old Arabic tale about the Camel's nose in the tent, or the Cold War's Domino Theory. As well as the axiom, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” often attributed to Edmund Burke or John Stuart Mill, but whose true origins remain cloudy at best.

Good job on using the Google. 

Specifically why I did not cite. 

And it applies very well. You say nothing when it doesn’t affect you, then it will eventually and you’ll have no one looking out for you. 

So asking stupid questions like “what dictator hurt you?” Is a disengenuous move. Dictators hurting anyone is wrong. And the less you do about, especially aquiescing to it, means such things go unchecked not only physically, but even in your mind. You’re beaten already. So sad. 

9secondkox2

coolfactor said:

waveparticle said:

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

Wow! All Russia's fault. US is the victim. Hate Russia, LOL.

The US is very young compared to Asian countries, particularly China. Unfortunately, because they are the current "world leader", that has gone to their heads, and no other country can be as great. That's the illusion right there. World powers come and go, and have for eons. The US will lose their dominance eventually. And we can only hope that the next world power will be democratic. and more mature and advanced than the current US leadership and population.

True only when it’s allowed to happen. Strangely, our government is now more concerned with gas stoves and air conditioners than they are with innovation, marketplace excellence and military superiority. Recipe for disaster. 

radarthekat

9secondkox2 said:

coolfactor said:

waveparticle said:

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

Wow! All Russia's fault. US is the victim. Hate Russia, LOL.

The US is very young compared to Asian countries, particularly China. Unfortunately, because they are the current "world leader", that has gone to their heads, and no other country can be as great. That's the illusion right there. World powers come and go, and have for eons. The US will lose their dominance eventually. And we can only hope that the next world power will be democratic. and more mature and advanced than the current US leadership and population.

True only when it’s allowed to happen. Strangely, our government is now more concerned with gas stoves and air conditioners than they are with innovation, marketplace excellence and military superiority. Recipe for disaster. 

It’s really only a certain segment obsessed with gas stoves.  Hint: it’s the same segment who are banning books.  Maybe you need to take a break from that rhetoric.  It’ll do your heart good.  

9secondkox2

radarthekat said:

9secondkox2 said:

coolfactor said:

waveparticle said:

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

Wow! All Russia's fault. US is the victim. Hate Russia, LOL.

The US is very young compared to Asian countries, particularly China. Unfortunately, because they are the current "world leader", that has gone to their heads, and no other country can be as great. That's the illusion right there. World powers come and go, and have for eons. The US will lose their dominance eventually. And we can only hope that the next world power will be democratic. and more mature and advanced than the current US leadership and population.

True only when it’s allowed to happen. Strangely, our government is now more concerned with gas stoves and air conditioners than they are with innovation, marketplace excellence and military superiority. Recipe for disaster. 

It’s really only a certain segment obsessed with gas stoves.  Hint: it’s the same segment who are banning books.  Maybe you need to take a break from that rhetoric.  It’ll do your heart good.  

There is no rhetoric coming from me. 

Banning books? You mean the books with pornographic content in the libraries of schoolchildren?  And you think that’s bad? Parents across the country are confronting school boards over this. It’s everywhere. That’s not making books illegal. It’s getting them out of inappropriate places where impressionable kids can get into it and back to where adults can choose to read it or not. 

Wow. 

A stove or air conditioner can’t corrupt a child. Adult content can. It doesn’t belong in public schools. 

And the air conditioner thing was reported on today. Coming from the executive branch. Federally. Not a small segment. 

And that’s more attention than our military strength and growth is getting and more than our economy is getting. That’s not rhetoric. It’s the way it is. 

nzhong168

Wow, US is becoming such a place with hatred.  Apple CEO just visited China and praise workers are innovative and he became a target。 He didn't praise CCP, neither support human right abuse. He just said something not wrong. Chinese are innovative, just like American. now he is labelled as doing propaganda for CCP.  I see American become more like CCP, bully and harass anyone who isn't doing exact what they like.   It is like extreme right speaking to extreme left, both are very SICK people. If you don't like what the CEO said,  you can choose not to buy Apple product, they are mostly made in China nowaday.

tmay

nzhong168 said:

Wow, US is becoming such a place with hatred.  Apple CEO just visited China and praise workers are innovative and he became a target。 He didn't praise CCP, neither support human right abuse. He just said something not wrong. Chinese are innovative, just like American. now he is labelled as doing propaganda for CCP.  I see American become more like CCP, bully and harass anyone who isn't doing exact what they like.   It is like extreme right speaking to extreme left, both are very SICK people. If you don't like what the CEO said,  you can choose not to buy Apple product, they are mostly made in China nowaday.

https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/1639275172325629958

Huawei awards ceremony...I love the gooses stepping...

nzhong168

tmay said:

nzhong168 said:

Wow, US is becoming such a place with hatred.  Apple CEO just visited China and praise workers are innovative and he became a target。 He didn't praise CCP, neither support human right abuse. He just said something not wrong. Chinese are innovative, just like American. now he is labelled as doing propaganda for CCP.  I see American become more like CCP, bully and harass anyone who isn't doing exact what they like.   It is like extreme right speaking to extreme left, both are very SICK people. If you don't like what the CEO said,  you can choose not to buy Apple product, they are mostly made in China nowaday.

https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/1639275172325629958

Huawei awards ceremony...I love the gooses stepping...

what is this link? this isn't where Tim Cook is speaking at. So what, it is Chinese style. I don't like but non of my business.

longfang

9secondkox2 said:

longfang said:

proline said:

JP234 said:

Sounds like an ill-timed, but productive visit. Certain elements in the Legislature and right wing media are sure to make hay out of it. But if you ask me, good business ties with China are super important, even in the face of recent geopolitical events. China will to be less inclined to damage their best customer.

Lol. Do you think Russia is less inclined to damage us after we
— gave them Ukraine’s nukes
— gave them the USSR spot on the security council
— shut down our own rocket engine manufacturing and made our rockets dependent on their engines
— made them key partners in the ISS
— let them genocide Chechnya
— let them conquer Georgia and Moldova and Crimea
— gave them Big Macs and iPhones

Of course not. Dictators can’t stop themselves from attacking us. We need to be ready. Apple is making us dependent rather than ready. 

Name 1 dictator who attacked you.

Just because something hadn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it can’t or won’t. The lessons of history are meant to be learned from. 

A popular reminder:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

If we don’t stand up now, there may not be a chance later. 

So you want to strike first because something might happen? And you wonder would the aggressive war driven nation is. 

mainyehc

TheThumper said:

Can't wait to see how "symbiotic" it is when we've enriched the CCP's economy and military enough that they can dominate the world with Communism. Way to go Timmy Boy!

The problem is, it’s not even Socialism, let alone Communism, and even if it was Socialism, it wouldn’t be of the democratic variety.

Any Socialist worth their salt, with two or more brain cells, knows that kowtowing to the CCP is A Very Bad Idea™.

You’re not supposed to deepthroat the boot, Timmy, only lick it until you can find an alternative.