"Pinot"=OS update for ?

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
I've read some things on <a href="http://www.geek.com"; target="_blank">www.geek.com</a> and they say that MWSF 2003 is the target for the next OS X update= code-named "Pinot". That update should implement support for next gen processors from IBM.

Also read that IBM would or wanted to reach 2 Ghz with their PPC's in late 2002. This could be the 64-bit processor, they will show 15th Oct.



Hope keeps us alive. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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  • Reply 1 of 48
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,230member
    Pinot...not much info out on the feature set of Pinot. The timing is right for a move to this mythical proc. Apple motherboard evolution has slowed to a crawl...something makes me think that they are planning for big changes ahead. So many new technologies coming I hope they hit at once.



    Serial ATA

    AGP 8x

    Hyper Transport

    Bluetooth

    Raycer Chip(snicker)
  • Reply 2 of 48
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    Mathew Rothenberg of eWeek also says Pinot will be ready for MWSF, and that it will limit OS 9 to Classic.
  • Reply 3 of 48
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    [quote]Originally posted by murk:

    <strong>Mathew Rothenberg of eWeek also says Pinot will be ready for MWSF, and that it will limit OS 9 to Classic.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Pinot... Wanna bet that name gets changed? <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
  • Reply 4 of 48
    screedscreed Posts: 1,077member
    [quote]Originally posted by DaveGee:

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    Pinot... Wanna bet that name gets changed? <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    That or the next retail box will have red wine superimposed over the 'X' instead of the fur pattern.



    Screed
  • Reply 5 of 48
    jbljbl Posts: 555member
    That geek.com article only said Macworld 2003. I was wondering whether that was MWSF or MWNY. MWNY is more in line with what Moki seems to imply about the IBM chips in his posts. Four months also seems a little fast to move from 10.2 to 10.3 (especially if they are going to be charging for these upgrades).
  • Reply 6 of 48
    sc_marktsc_markt Posts: 1,393member
    [quote]Originally posted by DaveGee:

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    Pinot... Wanna bet that name gets changed? <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I could see it getting called "peanut" or "pinto."
  • Reply 7 of 48
    I don't think the update to OS X will be to 10.3 by then. Possibly a 10.2.5 update but 10.3 would seem highly unlikely.
  • Reply 8 of 48
    kukukuku Posts: 254member
    Code names are usually just goals. if the goal is to make a system compatible, functional, and pretty well optimized for a Brand new chip. it could be 10.2.0.0.01 for all they care.[Though I'm joking here]



    This will usually require a lot of work wthout features and/or present changes. So it could still be 10.2.1 and deemed a completely new code name, simply as a easy marker to use inhouse.



    So Pinot can come out Oct15 if for some bizare reason apple had everything ready.



    ~Kuku
  • Reply 9 of 48
    mokimoki Posts: 551member
    [quote]Originally posted by fieldor:

    <strong>I've read some things on <a href="http://www.geek.com"; target="_blank">www.geek.com</a> and they say that MWSF 2003 is the target for the next OS X update= code-named "Pinot". That update should implement support for next gen processors from IBM.

    Also read that IBM would or wanted to reach 2 Ghz with their PPC's in late 2002. This could be the 64-bit processor, they will show 15th Oct.



    Hope keeps us alive. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Not to be a wet blanket, but major OS versions aren't going to come out in that timeframe -- it just isn't enough time.



    As for IBM, it's great to show the initial processors at 2ghz -- don't know if they'll hit that mark, but regardless, it is a different thing to be able to ship them in quantity, and a different thing again to have an entire motherboard designed around 'em.



    Don't get too overly optimistic with the dates here...
  • Reply 10 of 48
    mokimoki Posts: 551member
    [quote]Originally posted by sc_markt:

    <strong>



    I could see it getting called "peanut" or "pinto."</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It is pronounced "pee-no" -- as in the grape. Think French.
  • Reply 11 of 48
    trevormtrevorm Posts: 841member
    [quote]Originally posted by moki:

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    It is pronounced "pee-no" -- as in the grape. Think French.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I tell you, some dumb ass' (Sorry couldnt help myself <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> ) will call it PIN-OT
  • Reply 12 of 48
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    I think you might see a new OS update shown at Macworld San Francisco (such as Mac OS X 10.2.1 or 10.2.2), but I don't think you'll see the first public display of 10.3, 10.5, 11, or whatever they decide to call it until Macworld Boston at the earliest.
  • Reply 13 of 48
    bartobarto Posts: 2,246member
    Developers will call it pin-out

    Windows users will call it pie-not

    American Wine Fans will call it pie-no

    Europeans (It's from France. You probably don't even know where France is!)* and Australians will call it pin-o



    The Mac OS 10.2.1 should be out sometime in the next week or so probably, considering all the (apparent) bug fixes in 6C116. Also, remember the last 10.1.5 security update? Well, 10.2 doesn't include it. Considering Jaguar has been out for a couple of days, software update should light up soon.



    Fran, according to <a href="http://www.macworldexpo.com"; target="_blank">http://www.macworldexpo.com</a>; MacWorld is still held in NYC.



    Macworld Conference & Expo

    Jacob K. Javits Convention Center

    New York, NY

    July 14 - 18, 2003



    Barto



    *Penny-Arcade reference



    [ 08-15-2002: Message edited by: Barto ]</p>
  • Reply 14 of 48
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    According to IDG Expo, the paperwork is about to be signed to move the Expo back to Boston. After that is made official, IDG will stop advertising that the show will be at the Javitz Center.



    Right now, New York is just the fall back plan if things for some reason don't work out with Boston.



    [quote]The Mac OS 10.2.1 should be out sometime in the next week or so probably, considering all the (apparent) bug fixes in 6C116. Also, remember the last 10.1.5 security update? Well, 10.2 doesn't include it. Considering Jaguar has been out for a couple of days, software update should light up soon.<hr></blockquote>



    I don't doubt that at all. My point was that MWSF would not bring us a new full OS update, but perhaps a small one such as a 10.2.1 or 10.2.2 update.



    [ 08-15-2002: Message edited by: Fran441 ]</p>
  • Reply 15 of 48
    bartobarto Posts: 2,246member
    I await the signing of the paperwork then.



    Barto
  • Reply 16 of 48
    willoughbywilloughby Posts: 1,457member
    [quote]Originally posted by Fran441:

    <strong>



    Right now, New York is just the fall back plan if things for some reason don't work out with Boston.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I thought the new convention center wasn't even finished yet and wouldn't be until 2004??
  • Reply 17 of 48
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    [quote]I thought the new convention center wasn't even finished yet and wouldn't be until 2004?? <hr></blockquote>



    You are correct, but if IDG signs with Boston, one of the agreements is that next year's Expo will be at the Hynes Convention Center.
  • Reply 18 of 48
    [quote]Originally posted by Barto:

    Developers will call it pin-out

    Windows users will call it pie-not

    American Wine Fans will call it pie-no

    Europeans (It's from France. You probably don't even know where France is!)* and Australians will call it pin-o

    <hr></blockquote>



    Probably.



    So what's the significance of the name? "Cheetah" (not) and "Jaguar" seem to indicate a feline fetish within Apple, and possibly with speed.



    Pinot?



    Will we see a digitally manipulated Orson Wells hawking this: "We will sell no Operating System, before it's (its?) time." Maybe this signifies the end of the OS X Beta phase.



    Maybe it will be released in Paris, 2003. I think MWSF is too aggressive for the timing, unless it's more of a minor update.
  • Reply 19 of 48
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 16,937member
    [quote]As for IBM, it's great to show the initial processors at 2ghz -- don't know if they'll hit that mark, but regardless, it is a different thing to be able to ship them in quantity, and a different thing again to have an entire motherboard designed around 'em. <hr></blockquote>



    True, but we are not talking about MOT here. IBM has very advanced foundries and capabilities. It is quite possible that Apple will dump MOT and go with Big Blue. Personally, I hope they do. It amazes me that Apple has let this BS with MOT go on as long as it has. I don't want to start another "MOT sucks thread", but in all reality, Apple should never have let this go on as long as it has. The only explanation is the one Jobs offered (implicitly): Apple has to wait out the switch to OSX before it can change processors. Looking back, I'm sure they knew this when MOT hit the wall in 2000.



    [ 08-15-2002: Message edited by: SDW2001 ]</p>
  • Reply 20 of 48
    stoostoo Posts: 1,490member
    You sort of asked:

    its = possesive (his, hers)

    it's = contraction of "it is"



    Isn't english a great language?
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