I see NO connection to Anywhere Access with this Pal thing. Anywhere Access will be part of .Mac, that appears to be fact. Why would there be a retail box for one aspect of .Mac, which is a service to begin with?
Newton or hoax. I'm still leaning hoax.
Anywhere access IS part of .mac. Thats just the name they have given their presentation.
Situation: Your just getting to work, happily tapping on your new Apple PDA. You meet Joe from the cubic next to yours. You show him the PDA you say: "Hi, Joe. Look here its my new Pal".
I see NO connection to Anywhere Access with this Pal thing. Anywhere Access will be part of .Mac, that appears to be fact. Why would there be a retail box for one aspect of .Mac, which is a service to begin with?
Newton or hoax. I'm still leaning hoax.
I don't know, that's why I have been saying that this Pal thing sounds more like a 'feature' of 10.3 and I don't understand the box. But I do however see a connection between "...can take your life on the road..." and "Discover the convenience of accessing your data from any Internet connected computer." You don't see anything similar about these two ideas?
Anywhere access IS part of .mac. Thats just the name they have given their presentation.
At first I was going to write "IS", but then I noticed that they have separate iDisk and iSync presentations. Meaning (to me at least) that Anywhere Access does note equate to iDisk + iSync.
That or there are parts of my .Mac account I haven't discovered.
RosettaStoned started a thread about this in Software posting this link; http://www.mac.com/1/learningcenter/. At the Bottom. I believe it a bit more now.
Very interesting. From .Mac:
".Mac Presents:
Anywhere Access
Discover the convenience of accessing your data from any Internet connected computer."
They key there is *any internet connected computer*. Sounds like a universal Mac/Windows for .Mac users.
I don't know, that's why I have been saying that this Pal thing sounds more like a 'feature' of 10.3 and I don't understand the box. But I do however see a connection between "...can take your life on the road..." and "Discover the convenience of accessing your data from any Internet connected computer." You don't see anything similar about these two ideas?
Sure they seem like similar ideas. That's the problem. I don't see it as a separate product or service. I see it as either part of .Mac or Panther.
A box means a separate product or service. Something substantial like a cool new rebirth of the Newton.
For you conspiracy theorists, is it a coincidence that Pal's logo is a light bulb and the Newton's logo was a light bulb? I think not!!!
#1 - Apple uses photos of actual object on their box covers. If it's a harddrive - there'd be a pic of it. If it was software there would be a camera, video camera, etc etc.
It looks exactly like skewed text with thick antialiasing in photoshop. Photoshop tends to make text icky if you skew it a lot.
#3 the text on the side of the box is in the wrong perspective.
it should be in a parallelagram shape like the side of a box is.
#4 Type is all wrong. The only thing that has type anything similar to this is .mac. all of the rest of apple's products have a smaller title and subtitle in the top right.
Didn't NeXT have some graphical remote login feature? How would Pal compare with Apple's Remote Desktop software?
NeXT had a couple things. The server hosted user directories, which we have availble in 10.2 server, and NXHost which let you run applications on one computer but have the GUI for the app displayed on another (like X11 windows). Remote Desktop displays the entire screen from one computer onto another. A decidedly different capability.
Hey cinder how much do you get an hour? You sure do work hard trying to find what is fake about it all....but if this does come out as the real Apple product i guess you won't have much of a job anymore
Relax all....remember the MDD PowerMac's? alot said they where fake because of this and that....who knows these may be real....they do look good...and while they do have things that would make one believe they could be fake as well, we will all have to wait ether way to find out
In the end it's not your word against my...it's Apple's Photoshop work against a outsider with too much time on there hands
They said User at the Center features will make it simpler for individual users to personalize their computing experience and to move seamlessly among Macs and other devices
JLL - yes, everyone knows - including whoever faked this box.
Except they have no more information about it either, so they wrote terrible non-spcific vague copy.
and my normal salary is none of your business.
But my cynic salary is generally between $yeahsurecinder - $you'reprobablyrightcinder a post.
I did the same thing for the iWalk and similar 'fiascos'
I had no comments about the PowerMac shots. Industrial design and cases are not my area of expertise.
I'm seriously telling you that the box IS fake.
It's not an interpretation. The text is geometrically wrong. You know why? Because you can't easily do it in Photoshop. You'd need Illustrator or Freehand to skew it properly to make a better fake.
The design breaks Apple's standards. Period.
This doesn't mean the 'user at the center' software will not come out - but it's very obvious to me and probably you and everyone else that it will be PART of Panther - not an add-on app.
There's no point to making it an add-on app if you're trying to sell new features.
Not to mention - why are they printing boxes for something that obviously requires Panther?
Panther isn't even in beta yet.
I am not questioning the existance of the software - I am just saying that the box, logo, and name are fake.
#3 the text on the side of the box is in the wrong perspective.
it should be in a parallelagram shape like the side of a box is.
Yeah that does look a little screwy.
Note the position of the "Ill" after pal as a reference for perspective and then the "t" at the end. Its all wrong. The top of the "t" should be pointing down not up to be in proper perspective with the way the box is depicted. Guess why the top of the box is cut off folks
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#4 Type is all wrong. The only thing that has type anything similar to this is .mac. all of the rest of apple's products have a smaller title and subtitle in the top right.
The kerning on the grey "Pal" is poor. No attention to kerning in a product name... suuuure.
Of course this *could* just be some sort of mock up for a real box but coming from Spymac i doubt it. Nice aqua light bulb exclamation point though...
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Originally posted by Nitzer
I see NO connection to Anywhere Access with this Pal thing. Anywhere Access will be part of .Mac, that appears to be fact. Why would there be a retail box for one aspect of .Mac, which is a service to begin with?
Newton or hoax. I'm still leaning hoax.
Anywhere access IS part of .mac. Thats just the name they have given their presentation.
Situation: Your just getting to work, happily tapping on your new Apple PDA. You meet Joe from the cubic next to yours. You show him the PDA you say: "Hi, Joe. Look here its my new Pal".
Nerd. Not Geek.
Originally posted by Nitzer
I see NO connection to Anywhere Access with this Pal thing. Anywhere Access will be part of .Mac, that appears to be fact. Why would there be a retail box for one aspect of .Mac, which is a service to begin with?
Newton or hoax. I'm still leaning hoax.
I don't know, that's why I have been saying that this Pal thing sounds more like a 'feature' of 10.3 and I don't understand the box. But I do however see a connection between "...can take your life on the road..." and "Discover the convenience of accessing your data from any Internet connected computer." You don't see anything similar about these two ideas?
Originally posted by Anders the White
Anywhere access IS part of .mac. Thats just the name they have given their presentation.
At first I was going to write "IS", but then I noticed that they have separate iDisk and iSync presentations. Meaning (to me at least) that Anywhere Access does note equate to iDisk + iSync.
That or there are parts of my .Mac account I haven't discovered.
Originally posted by iBrowse
RosettaStoned started a thread about this in Software posting this link; http://www.mac.com/1/learningcenter/. At the Bottom. I believe it a bit more now.
Very interesting. From .Mac:
".Mac Presents:
Anywhere Access
Discover the convenience of accessing your data from any Internet connected computer."
They key there is *any internet connected computer*. Sounds like a universal Mac/Windows for .Mac users.
Originally posted by iBrowse
I don't know, that's why I have been saying that this Pal thing sounds more like a 'feature' of 10.3 and I don't understand the box. But I do however see a connection between "...can take your life on the road..." and "Discover the convenience of accessing your data from any Internet connected computer." You don't see anything similar about these two ideas?
Sure they seem like similar ideas. That's the problem. I don't see it as a separate product or service. I see it as either part of .Mac or Panther.
A box means a separate product or service. Something substantial like a cool new rebirth of the Newton.
For you conspiracy theorists, is it a coincidence that Pal's logo is a light bulb and the Newton's logo was a light bulb? I think not!!!
Hoax.
#1 - Apple uses photos of actual object on their box covers. If it's a harddrive - there'd be a pic of it. If it was software there would be a camera, video camera, etc etc.
#2 text is too dark on the side shot
(http://forums.appleinsider.com/attac...&postid=370427)
It looks exactly like skewed text with thick antialiasing in photoshop. Photoshop tends to make text icky if you skew it a lot.
#3 the text on the side of the box is in the wrong perspective.
it should be in a parallelagram shape like the side of a box is.
#4 Type is all wrong. The only thing that has type anything similar to this is .mac. all of the rest of apple's products have a smaller title and subtitle in the top right.
Originally posted by heaven or las vegas
Didn't NeXT have some graphical remote login feature? How would Pal compare with Apple's Remote Desktop software?
NeXT had a couple things. The server hosted user directories, which we have availble in 10.2 server, and NXHost which let you run applications on one computer but have the GUI for the app displayed on another (like X11 windows). Remote Desktop displays the entire screen from one computer onto another. A decidedly different capability.
#6 the description doesn't actually tell you ANYTHING about what's inside.
Generally, closely cropped shots are fakes.
The real shots have always been full shots from different angles.
Why didn't they show the back?
Because it would require too much copy writing and fake screenshots.
Why didn't they show a full shot?
Because it would be harder to fake and easier to compare to the others - easy to call out bad photoshop skills.
come on kids - iSynch/.Mac already pretty much does this stuff.
lets just wait for 10.3, we'll see it then.
Relax all....remember the MDD PowerMac's? alot said they where fake because of this and that....who knows these may be real....they do look good...and while they do have things that would make one believe they could be fake as well, we will all have to wait ether way to find out
In the end it's not your word against my...it's Apple's Photoshop work against a outsider with too much time on there hands
Frank_t
They said User at the Center features will make it simpler for individual users to personalize their computing experience and to move seamlessly among Macs and other devices
Except they have no more information about it either, so they wrote terrible non-spcific vague copy.
and my normal salary is none of your business.
But my cynic salary is generally between $yeahsurecinder - $you'reprobablyrightcinder a post.
I did the same thing for the iWalk and similar 'fiascos'
I had no comments about the PowerMac shots. Industrial design and cases are not my area of expertise.
I'm seriously telling you that the box IS fake.
It's not an interpretation. The text is geometrically wrong. You know why? Because you can't easily do it in Photoshop. You'd need Illustrator or Freehand to skew it properly to make a better fake.
The design breaks Apple's standards. Period.
This doesn't mean the 'user at the center' software will not come out - but it's very obvious to me and probably you and everyone else that it will be PART of Panther - not an add-on app.
There's no point to making it an add-on app if you're trying to sell new features.
Not to mention - why are they printing boxes for something that obviously requires Panther?
Panther isn't even in beta yet.
I am not questioning the existance of the software - I am just saying that the box, logo, and name are fake.
the typeface is also wrong.
the weight is too heavy - which means it was another version of Lucida made by a different foundry or the wrong 'boldness' of that typeface.
Using a non-specified font is a HUGE no-no.
http://www.apple.com/pr/photos/dotmac/dotmac.html
Look at this to compare.
I could go on and on and on and on if you'd like . . .
Originally posted by cinder
the weight is too heavy - which means it was another version of Lucida made by a different foundry or the wrong 'boldness' of that typeface.
Apple doesn't use Lucida for product images. It uses Adobe Myriad.
#3 the text on the side of the box is in the wrong perspective.
it should be in a parallelagram shape like the side of a box is.
Yeah that does look a little screwy.
Note the position of the "Ill" after pal as a reference for perspective and then the "t" at the end. Its all wrong. The top of the "t" should be pointing down not up to be in proper perspective with the way the box is depicted. Guess why the top of the box is cut off folks
#4 Type is all wrong. The only thing that has type anything similar to this is .mac. all of the rest of apple's products have a smaller title and subtitle in the top right.
The kerning on the grey "Pal" is poor. No attention to kerning in a product name... suuuure.
Of course this *could* just be some sort of mock up for a real box but coming from Spymac i doubt it. Nice aqua light bulb exclamation point though...
Originally posted by cinder
#5 front object is not repeated on the side like all other boxes
*cough*.mac*cough*