oh crap, why did someone have to bring that up..? now my wheels are REALLY turning!
but steve has said apple cannot add value to the pda realm until he's been blue in the face (well, more like a purplish rage). steve has hinted at things, but has he ever flat-out denied something, then turned around and went ta-daa!
at first i thought that somebody has made a mockup. probably just using photoshop for designing the icon and settting the text on the front cover. it could even have been done as a cheap chop in one of those shareware aquafier apps or plugins.
anyway, the copy is set badly ... crap kerning etc. points to it being done either by somebody who isn't using quark/illustrator/indesign ... or doesnt know their typographic rules as they should. then they did a few variants of the layout and printed out a copy on an A3 inkjet, and stuck it to an empty box. We do it all the time for product mockups at work... cheaper than a wet proof and looks like the real thing for product shots and point of sale design.
some quick digital photos later, and we have shots of kosher packaging. the unusual flaring of the flash burnout made me think the paper might be inkjet stock, which is shiny and has a wider specular highlight than the kind of boxboard or display card used for such products. it being an inkjet run-out might also suggest why some people have commented on there being no halftone patterns on the alledgedly scanned a/w. unless apple uses some mad straight to plate stocastic litho solution or something
then i thought they'd seen an apple product box and realised that there is more than just an apple logo on the spine ... there should also be the product name. so i think the culprit then PS'd that copy on the side. hence the really bad text antialiasing on the bold, and the dispro'd lighter copy. PS is crap at handling transformed antialiased text sometimes, as has been pointed out before.
anyway, all those theories are interesting, but after staring at the pics more i am thinking that it looks more likely to have been photoshopped from scratch. i am intrigued by the logo itself though, and wonder if the following from toptechtips could shed light (no pun intended) ..
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This also explains why the logo and type size are a little different. This is not a box, and this is not the Pal packaging - it's in store POS Don't ask me how I know all this - I just know
so NOW i'm wondering if there is a wee bit of truth to this ... mebbe some eager beaver (a junior designer or intern) somewhere has seen a single point of sale item and has managed to take a photo of it. possibly just the logo. after, even if chiat day or apple do all this kind of design in-house they would probably outsource at some point in the chain ... for digital mockups or similar. still might explain the lack of halftoning etc. then this eager beaver has decided to perk up the rumours with some homemade packaging and promotional material. their lack of copy-writing and extreme photoshopping skills leaves flaws that countless eagle eyed readers here have found.
Oh i dunno, mebbe i need to sleep on this, and then rinse them through photoshop tomorrow at work. i'd be interested to see what the same copy looks like set in adobe myriad pro and non-pro, in photoshop. and i'd be interested in looking at those burn out shots more, and the suspiciously regular gradients on the front of the box. anyone run those through PS yet and looked at the images hi-res to see relative colour values in different channels?
oh crap, why did someone have to bring that up..? now my wheels are REALLY turning!
Wasn't that brought up like the first or second page? That's one of the first things I thought of, which makes me further think it's a hoax, because Apple knows the recognition of the Newton logo being a lightbulb. Why would they use another lightbulb?
Wasn't that brought up like the first or second page? That's one of the first things I thought of, which makes me further think it's a hoax, because Apple knows the recognition of the Newton logo being a lightbulb. Why would they use another lightbulb?
ya but the newton is not a product anymore that was like 10 years ago, so they could use it, and it is a little different anyway
I realize how long ago it was and that it is different and all, but Apple knows how Mac-nuts are. It just seems that they'd be hesitant to use a light bulb.
I think that "Pal" is a thinclient device especially for OSX.
That would also explain the 10.3 requirements since you would need multiple simultaneous logins (new 10.3 feature?) to make it practical.
This device probably has Quartz build-in, the host computer only has to route the Quartz drawing commands to the "Pal" device so it wil be fast even on slow network connections.
Airport Extreme (and Ethernet?) build-in, touchscreen/pen based interface.
Think of the possibilities of such a device!
Full access (Forget Disks, Forget Syncing) to your computer(s) from any WiFi (Connect over the air) hotspot.
Another advantage, such device does not need a harddisk or huge amounts of memory, it 'll be a lot cheaper than a tablet PC.
I think that "Pal" is a thinclient device especially for OSX. ...
This device probably has Quartz build-in, the host computer only has to route the Quartz drawing commands to the "Pal" device so it wil be fast even on slow network connections. Airport Extreme (and Ethernet?) build-in, touchscreen/pen based interface.
Welcome to AI, WebFlits.
What a wonderful thingie this would be. But unfortunately too good to be true.
The reason they called it Pal rather than iPal is because it's a whole new product category (think Newton, Pipin etc) which is designed to work with both the consumer and pro range. This also explains why the logo and type size are a little different.
I think this makes no sense as the iPod isn't particularly a consumer-only device and it was as "new" a product category for Apple as anything else.
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Originally posted by Mekhanes
hmmm...
Does anyone remember the Logo for the Newton?
Wasn't it a light-bulb?
oh crap, why did someone have to bring that up..? now my wheels are REALLY turning!
but steve has said apple cannot add value to the pda realm until he's been blue in the face (well, more like a purplish rage). steve has hinted at things, but has he ever flat-out denied something, then turned around and went ta-daa!
Originally posted by bunge
This disc in the icon is (slightly angled).
Aye, but it's not the same exact angle.
anyway, the copy is set badly ... crap kerning etc. points to it being done either by somebody who isn't using quark/illustrator/indesign ... or doesnt know their typographic rules as they should. then they did a few variants of the layout and printed out a copy on an A3 inkjet, and stuck it to an empty box. We do it all the time for product mockups at work... cheaper than a wet proof and looks like the real thing for product shots and point of sale design.
some quick digital photos later, and we have shots of kosher packaging. the unusual flaring of the flash burnout made me think the paper might be inkjet stock, which is shiny and has a wider specular highlight than the kind of boxboard or display card used for such products. it being an inkjet run-out might also suggest why some people have commented on there being no halftone patterns on the alledgedly scanned a/w. unless apple uses some mad straight to plate stocastic litho solution or something
then i thought they'd seen an apple product box and realised that there is more than just an apple logo on the spine ... there should also be the product name. so i think the culprit then PS'd that copy on the side. hence the really bad text antialiasing on the bold, and the dispro'd lighter copy. PS is crap at handling transformed antialiased text sometimes, as has been pointed out before.
anyway, all those theories are interesting, but after staring at the pics more i am thinking that it looks more likely to have been photoshopped from scratch. i am intrigued by the logo itself though, and wonder if the following from toptechtips could shed light (no pun intended) ..
This also explains why the logo and type size are a little different. This is not a box, and this is not the Pal packaging - it's in store POS Don't ask me how I know all this - I just know
so NOW i'm wondering if there is a wee bit of truth to this ... mebbe some eager beaver (a junior designer or intern) somewhere has seen a single point of sale item and has managed to take a photo of it. possibly just the logo. after, even if chiat day or apple do all this kind of design in-house they would probably outsource at some point in the chain ... for digital mockups or similar. still might explain the lack of halftoning etc. then this eager beaver has decided to perk up the rumours with some homemade packaging and promotional material. their lack of copy-writing and extreme photoshopping skills leaves flaws that countless eagle eyed readers here have found.
Oh i dunno, mebbe i need to sleep on this, and then rinse them through photoshop tomorrow at work. i'd be interested to see what the same copy looks like set in adobe myriad pro and non-pro, in photoshop. and i'd be interested in looking at those burn out shots more, and the suspiciously regular gradients on the front of the box. anyone run those through PS yet and looked at the images hi-res to see relative colour values in different channels?
ah, too much rabid speculation. i'm off to bed
Originally posted by rok
oh crap, why did someone have to bring that up..? now my wheels are REALLY turning!
Wasn't that brought up like the first or second page? That's one of the first things I thought of, which makes me further think it's a hoax, because Apple knows the recognition of the Newton logo being a lightbulb. Why would they use another lightbulb?
Originally posted by iBrowse
Wasn't that brought up like the first or second page? That's one of the first things I thought of, which makes me further think it's a hoax, because Apple knows the recognition of the Newton logo being a lightbulb. Why would they use another lightbulb?
ya but the newton is not a product anymore that was like 10 years ago, so they could use it, and it is a little different anyway
Originally posted by Eugene
This "Pal" icon doesn't tell you anything about the software's job or capabilities.
You can say the exact same thing about the image on the .Mac box. Funny how Apple allowed that to slip through ...
Originally posted by Nonsuch
You can say the exact same thing about the image on the .Mac box. Funny how Apple allowed that to slip through ...
Actually, the .mac item symbolizes a hub with connections, like the internet is.
Originally posted by Chucker
Actually, the .mac item symbolizes a hub with connections, like the internet is.
Oh, I thought it was a fortune tellers cristal ball.
Well, not very telling anyway IMHO.
Lets assume that this "Pal" thing is for real.
I think that "Pal" is a thinclient device especially for OSX.
That would also explain the 10.3 requirements since you would need multiple simultaneous logins (new 10.3 feature?) to make it practical.
This device probably has Quartz build-in, the host computer only has to route the Quartz drawing commands to the "Pal" device so it wil be fast even on slow network connections.
Airport Extreme (and Ethernet?) build-in, touchscreen/pen based interface.
Think of the possibilities of such a device!
Full access (Forget Disks, Forget Syncing) to your computer(s) from any WiFi (Connect over the air) hotspot.
Another advantage, such device does not need a harddisk or huge amounts of memory, it 'll be a lot cheaper than a tablet PC.
I like what you have to say but I am not sure if todays bandwith could really handle that.
Originally posted by WebFlits
I think that "Pal" is a thinclient device especially for OSX. ...
This device probably has Quartz build-in, the host computer only has to route the Quartz drawing commands to the "Pal" device so it wil be fast even on slow network connections. Airport Extreme (and Ethernet?) build-in, touchscreen/pen based interface.
Welcome to AI, WebFlits.
What a wonderful thingie this would be. But unfortunately too good to be true.
Originally posted by Jared
Welcome WebFlits.
I like what you have to say but I am not sure if todays bandwith could really handle that.
Why not?
You can use VNC on a 64Kb ISDN connection and THAT uses compressed bitmaps. WiFi hotspots have a lot more bandwith.
When the host sends Quartz commands to the "Pal" device there's no need to send huge bitmaps!
Originally posted by Mac Man 020581
http://www.toptechtips.net/modules....article&sid=457
The reason they called it Pal rather than iPal is because it's a whole new product category (think Newton, Pipin etc) which is designed to work with both the consumer and pro range. This also explains why the logo and type size are a little different.
I think this makes no sense as the iPod isn't particularly a consumer-only device and it was as "new" a product category for Apple as anything else.